BEWARE OF UNIVERSAL RECONCILIATION

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The whole of created life shall be delivered!

Those destined for salvation, to resurrection life with Jesus.

Those destined for destruction, to the lake of fire, AS WRITTEN.

 

[FineLinen]

Brother, I am thankful that 'our' creator was NOT a foolish builder not capable of counting the costs for His plan.

A builder whose creation 'got away from Him'

Dear Sage: When Jesus Christ first touched my young life 62 years ago I never dreamed in the wildest scope what His intention was for me. I only knew in that moment that my misery was over. My precious mother and father must surely have given up all hope. But God!

I Believe

I believe that “having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, does he not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost till he find it.” -Luke 15:14-

I believe the Lord gathers up remnants of fish and bread, He “gathers up remnants that nothing be lost.” -John 6:12

I believe God “will open His hand and satisfy the desire of every living thing.” -Psl. 145:6

I believe that God is “gracious in all His works.” -Psl. 145:17-

I believe “the earth is the Lord’s and all its fulness, the world and all those who dwell therein.” -Psl. 24:1-

I believe “all the kings of the earth shall praise You, oh Lord, when they hear the words of Your mouth.” -Psl. 138:4-

I believe God “reveals Himself to those who did not ask for Him; He was found by those who did not seek Him.” -Isa. 65:1

I Believe

I believe “the Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over all the works of His hands. All Your works shall praise You, oh Lord.” -Psl. 145:8-10-

I believe “all the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before You. All those who go down to the dust shall bow before You.” -Psl. 22:27, 29

I believe “O You who hear prayer, to You shall all flesh come. Iniquities prevail against me; as for transgressions, You will provide atonement for them.” -Psl. 66:3, 4-

I believe “through the greatness of Your power Your enemies shall submit themselves to You. All the earth shall worship You and sing praises to You.” -Psl. 66: 3, 4

 

[Skidder]

Colossians 1 Continued:

“if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:23‬ ‭NASB‬‬

Let’s not forget that we must abide in Christ and endure to the end to receive salvation.

So you believe a person can be unseated with Christ in the heavenlies, unrisen with Christ, unwashed in His blood, uncrucified with Christ, unsanctified, unjustified, unforgiven, unredeemed, unbornagain? I Don't believe that because the moment we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ we die with Christ, are washed in His blood, and raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies. Therefore, if we could be UNborn-again we would have to be born again over and over every time we lost our salvation, and Christ would have to be unseated, unrisen, unburied, and uncrucified. Remember, we were reconciled in the body of His flesh through death. We are not our own, we were bought with a price, nothing in all creation (including our self) can separate us from the Love of God that is in Christ Jesus. Our co-death with Christ is not a metaphoric, symbolic, hyperbole... . we died with Christ, were buried, and were raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies.

 

[zoidar]

BEWARE OF UNIVERSAL RECONCILIATION
As Christians who preach Christ crucified we can be assured that the wisdom found in the gospel of our salvation is not from man but from God. And through this wisdom we know that "IN CHRIST" is our DEFENSE! IN CHRIST is our hope, IN CHRIST is our redemption, IN CHRIST is our forgiveness, sanctification, deliverance, freedom, life, love, joy, peace, etc… Because IN CHRIST is OUR SALVATION FROM SIN!! There is no salvation from sin apart from IN CHRIST! The very reason the enemy is always striving to remove sin from the salvation message. A false spirit surely knows that if they leave out the word 'sin' enough people will start believing that “salvation” means something other than "salvation from sin". Is there really any other salvation but salvation from sin? Is it not SIN that separates us from God? Is it not sin that brings God’s wrath? Is it not sin that brings condemnation, judgement, and death? So if sin is the problem and Christ is the cure, than JESUS is our ONLY VICTORY OVER SIN!!

And the only way to be IN CHRIST is to DIE TO THE LAW THROUGH THE BODY OF CHRIST!! The law brings wrath, but where there is no LAW there is no transgression, and Christ is the END OF THE LAW!! A person must first DIE WITH CHRIST to be married to another, and that is only by FAITH in the one who died for our sins! Our old man (body ruled by sin) had to die. A person is only made righteous and Holy in the Father’s eyes AFTER they have been reconciled IN THE BODY OF HIS FLESH THROUGH DEATH!!

Colossians 1:21-22
And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled *in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight

So to all those who embrace UR (Universal Reconciliation) and all their no sin doctrines, including the teaching that a person who rejects Christ to the end only dies in their “one sin of unbelief” PLEASE! Show me the scriptures! And I’ll show you the scriptures that prove that those who reject Christ are still under GOD’S WRATH and the condemnation of sin, and if they die without HIM they will surely DIE IN THEIR SINS!! Not just in the one sin of unbelief. A teaching that many have embraced in these last days. A teaching that contradicts the only place where there is no sin... IN CHRIST! There is no “sin free realm” outside of Christ or apart from Christ in ANY WAY! Our old man was never fit to polished, overhauled, or freed from sin. He was only fit to be crucified with Christ! Therefore, if a person rejects Jesus Christ, than they have never crossed over from DEATH to LIFE!

1 John 3:5
And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and IN HIM there is no sin.
What was He manifested to do if not take away our sins? Is there something hidden in this verse? NO! Jesus is salvation from sin! No Jesus, No salvation from sin!

They embrace this UR teaching because they have strayed from the simplicity that is IN CHRIST. Explain to me where this “sin free zone” is outside of Christ? Tell me how these people who reject Christ are translated into the Kingdom of His Son without dying with Christ and being washed from their sins in His blood? How do they enter the Holiest without going through a veil that was torn, HIS FLESH? How are all these people who reject Christ freed from sin without dying to the law? Everyone ever born in this world, apart from Christ, was born a sinner, and there is no way to be BORN AGAIN unless they first DIE IN THE BODY OF HIS FLESH THROUGH DEATH. If we accept that Jesus is the resurrection and the life, we must also accept that HE AS THE SACRIFICE!

And yes, I am aware of the rebuttals of those who take things from IN CHRIST. You preach “you have no sin”, and you preach “limited atonement’ NO, I preach that if we walk in our standing before God (His Grace) we will not be ruled by sin! We still have this corrupted sinful hull that encapsulates us until the day of redemption, but this is NOT OUR STANDING BEFORE GOD!! We are WASHED, REDEEMED, SANCTIFIED, JUSTIFIED, and made ALIVE through JESUS CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED!! The more we see the value of His blood, and how the Father sees us through the precious blood of His dear Son, the more we will SHOUT THE PRAISES OF OUR KING! As far as the accusations of “limited atonement”? What are my accusers preaching if not “limited Christ”? Is it not Christ who is the ATONEMENT FOR ALL SIN, and that is why redemption through His blood is only IN CHRIST! But if we accept the teachings that remove things from IN CHRIST, than we have already SHIPWRECKED OUR FAITH!!

JESUS CHRIST is our ONLY SALVATION FROM SIN, because HE IS REDEMPTION (the act of being saved from sin) And ONLY IN HM do we have redemption through His blood THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS. There is no “sin free zone” apart from our position IN CHRIST. Because only IN HIM has the OLD PASSED AWAY and ALL THINGS BECOME NEW!!

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is IN CHRIST, he is a new creation; OLD THINGS have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Galatians 6:15
For IN CHRIST JESUS neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a NEW CREATION.*

If we defend IN CHRIST than we defend all that is IN HIM, if we stray from IN CHRIST than we SET ASIDE THE GRACE that has been poured out for us through HIS BODY AND BLOOD!! But we are not of those who take things from IN CHRIST and hand them to the flesh! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! We are the REDEEMED OF THE LORD, WASHED IN THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF THE LAMB!! A PEOPLE OF GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, A HOLY NATION, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD who still carry around with us that OLD TREE, and who still preach that simple old old love story to a lonely heart in need of RESCUE! That PRECIOUS STORY of an UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND MERCY demonstrated by a KING WHO TOOK IT ALL AND GAVE IT ALL on a LONELY HILL CALLED CALVARY!!

Grace and Peace…

U. R. does that possibly give people an excuse not to repent? It is easier to keep living in sin. Repentance takes an honest heart.

 

[FineLinen]

U. R. does that possibly give people an excuse not to repent? It is easier to keep living in sin. Repentance takes an honest heart.

Dear Zoidar: Repentance goes far deeper and broader than an honest heart. It must be "granted/given" to each of us. Living in sin is a bottomless pit of despair!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

U. R. does that possibly give people an excuse not to repent? It is easier to keep living in sin. Repentance takes an honest heart.

Yes,
the false gospel of u.r. is not a stand-alone false teaching, it has other associated false teachings that are equally harmful and leading to destruction...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Living in sin is a bottomless pit of despair!

Amen, and the persons who live in sin without ever getting saved get tossed in the lake of fire - so there is good reason they despair, just like the fallen angels who know their own destiny is quite hot!

 

[zoidar]

Dear Zoidar: Repentance goes far deeper and broader than an honest heart. It must be "granted/given" to each of us. Living in sin is a bottomless pit of despair!

What do you consider to be sin?

 

[BNR32FAN]

So you believe a person can be unseated with Christ in the heavenlies, unrisen with Christ, unwashed in His blood, uncrucified with Christ, unsanctified, unjustified, unforgiven, unredeemed, unbornagain? I Don't believe that because the moment we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ we die with Christ, are washed in His blood, and raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies. Therefore, if we could be UNborn-again we would have to be born again over and over every time we lost our salvation, and Christ would have to be unseated, unrisen, unburied, and uncrucified. Remember, we were reconciled in the body of His flesh through death. We are not our own, we were bought with a price, nothing in all creation (including our self) can separate us from the Love of God that is in Christ Jesus. Our co-death with Christ is not a metaphoric, symbolic, hyperbole... . we died with Christ, were buried, and were raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies.

John 15:1-10 and Romans 11:17-23 say otherwise. Eternal security is a reformed doctrine that began in the 16th century. Another indication in the scriptures would be 2 Timothy 2:12 where Paul says if we deny Him He will deny us. Surely you would agree that Paul was undoubtedly a devoted servant of Christ when he wrote this and yet he includes even himself as being capable of denying Christ resulting in Christ denying him. The scriptures mention people “falling away” at least 20 times. In my opinion John 15 holds the most conclusive evidence.

 

[FineLinen]

What do you consider to be sin?

Dear Zoidar: Sin is the result of one man's disobedience. In that sin the entire mass of mankind "were made sinners." The word of course is polus, the entire polus are made sinners. We did not learn to be sinners, we were sinners by no choice of our own, but the inheritors of the sin nature. In short: depraved rebels in our gene structure.

The other side of this Divine equation=

The polus made sinners>>>>The polus made righteous.

 

[martymonster]

Here! Here! God will pour out his wrath on sinners, and as it says, He is angry forever!

 

[Lazarus Short]

The world / society/ LOVES THAT ! (since the world/ society/ is doing all it can to DRAG everyone down with it)

But, but, but...Jesus stated, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." (KJV) Some people prefer to render the "draw" as "drag." Note that Jesus did not say "a few" or "many" or "most" - He said "all." How do you answer, jeff?

 

[FineLinen]

Here! Here! God will pour out his wrath on sinners, and as it says, He is angry forever!

Dear Monster man: Knock it off!

"For I will not contend forever, Nor will I always be angry; For the spirit would fail before Me, And the souls which I have made."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Here! Here! God will pour out his wrath on sinners, and as it says, He is angry forever!

I think not He is angry forever - though He always hates the perverted in heart, and the false gospels,
and the punishment of sinners tossed in the lake of fire, destroying body and soul,
is forever (CANNOT BE UNDONE)....

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But, but, but...Jesus stated, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." (KJV) Some people prefer to render the "draw" as "drag." Note that Jesus did not say "a few" or "many" or "most" - He said "all." How do you answer, jeff?

Seek the truth,
which does not ever support u.r.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

John 15:1-10 and Romans 11:17-23 say otherwise. Eternal security is a reformed doctrine that began in the 16th century. Another indication in the scriptures would be 2 Timothy 2:12 where Paul says if we deny Him He will deny us. Surely you would agree that Paul was undoubtedly a devoted servant of Christ when he wrote this and yet he includes even himself as being capable of denying Christ resulting in Christ denying him. The scriptures mention people “falling away” at least 20 times. In my opinion John 15 holds the most conclusive evidence.

Is it also a doctrine of demons? Or just a false gospel (which is ANATHEMA (CURSED FOREVER) ) ?

 

[Lazarus Short]

This link appears to be a misinterpretation of 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 whereby Paul says that anyone who is building on the foundation of Christ may use a variety of materials. Only believers can build on the foundation of Christ.

Not to mention that it is the works that are tested by fire not the builder himself.

Since Jesus the Christ made all and upholds all, then tell me how anyone can NOT built of Him as a foundation? Is He not the ground of our being? If not Christ, what other foundation is there? It was good of you, btw, to notice that the builder is not hurt by the fire, but only his works.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Is it also a doctrine of demons? Or just a false gospel (which is ANATHEMA (CURSED FOREVER) ) ?

Again, don't you need to be a Pope or a church council to pronounce anathema? Please tell us what Pope or Council did this.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Again, don't you need to be a Pope or a church council to pronounce anathema? Please tell us what Pope or Council did this.

Look it up in the Bible = it is stated very clearly for all the Ekklesia. (not at all what you said)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Since Jesus the Christ made all and upholds all, then tell me how anyone can NOT built of Him as a foundation? Is He not the ground of our being? If not Christ, what other foundation is there?

Again, this is very clearly stated in the Bible.

Look down, at the quicksand. There it is! A foundation not built on rock. (the so-called 'foundation' of the heresy/false gospel of u.r. )