Well our church doesn't, so I can't answer. They should be read for what they are, novels of fiction! I know anti pre tribbers have a snit over the pre trib rapture them, but they are works of fiction and actually an enjoyable read. People who would use them as bible , that is on them.
My actual point isn't which churches use them and which ones don't. My point is they are not Biblically based, so why would any true believer want to even read or watch something that goes 'against' God's Word, and be so gullible to believe it does align with God's Word?
I take it you do not believe the bowls and trumpet judgments are literal then. For they speak of terribly physical suffering for the unbelievers!
The plagues are a mimic of the time of Moses and Aaron in Egypt. But this final time, it will be God's two witnesses doing those things in Jerusalem (Rev.11). When Satan ascends from the bottomless pit to kill then, then those peoples will send each other gifts, having a big party. So their deception by the Antichrist will still be in effect, and they will still believe peace has come on the earth. Or didn't you notice in that time there is nothing written about Christ's armies coming to fight the beast 'during'... the tribulation? Instead, we are told the whole world will worship the "dragon", and he will have power over the saints, and will be given that power for 42 months (i.e., 1260 days, the same timeframe the two witnesses prophesy).
Prior to the 70th week commencing will be a time of false peace as the Antichrist consolidates his power and deceives the nations with his lying signs and wonders! for teh tribulation saints- yes once the antichrist declares himself God and declares all out genocide against Jews and believers will the anguish really take hold!
There is no such idea as "tribulation saints" written in God's Word. That is an idea the pre-trib rapture school made up. The elect and saints of Matthew 24:23-31 is about Christ's Church, not Jews that suddenly convert to Jesus during the tribulation. In the Rev.7 chapter, the 144,000 represent children of Israel that are 'sealed' in Christ Jesus in prep for the tribulation. The "great multitude" in that chapter represent the 'sealed' of the Gentiles.
BOTH... groups go through the great tribulation. It is only after... the tribulation when those Gentiles are shown standing near the throne, for we are given Millennial symbols with that. The pre-trib rapture school of course rejects those symbols, like He That sits on the throne dwelling among them, they hunger no more, The Lamb leads them to living fountains of waters (i.e., God's River of Rev.22), those are post-tribulation events that only occur after... Christ's return.
Well it is obvious you never read from Gods Word the two reasons for the 70th week of Daniel. I have not accussed you of wrong doing, just making assumptions without empirical biblical support!
There (underlined), you're doing it again, making false assumptions against me while providing no evidence at all.
Mixing different parables about different events is horrendous exegesis. But all that teh door is shut on are unbelievers, not some kind of semi-believer.
Those examples I pointed to are about Christ REJECTING those who will claim to be His on that day, or didn't you understand what He said He will say to those...
Matt 7:21-22
1 Not every one that saith unto Me, 'Lord, Lord', shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord', have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?
KJV
So now are you going to try and say something really stupid, like those who preached Christ, cast out demons in His name, prophesied in His name, and did many wonderful works in His name, is NOT about believers? Those ARE about believers on Christ, which is HOW they are able to do those things in His Name. And what will He say to those because that group did what...
Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, 'I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.'
KJV
What particular "iniquity" for the end of this world do you think that might be? His Church isn't going anywhere until the last day of this world when Jesus comes.
So Jesus is on earth sitting on His throne of glory and the church is in heaven dressed as a bride without a bridegroom? WOW! You do realize that you are accusing God of horrendous composition. He writes of an event after Jesus comes to earth that takes place in heaven, then God precedes to write about Jesus returning to earth!
Why should we accept your opinion of this as valid instead of the manyu others who offer their opinions, instead of simply reading the passage in sequence like nearly all other passages are written???
Like I said before, you don't read very well.
I showed in those Revelation 19:1-9 verses how that timing is AFTER the defeat of the Babylon harlot, meaning the tribulation is over by then. That... is when Christ is going to sit down to supper with His faithful, and not before. And that supper is what the marriage feast of Revelation 19:9 is about.
Matt 26:29
29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom.
KJV
So you can mouth hot air all you want, but it's obvious you are not sticking to what is actually written there, but instead heed a false doctrine of man!
