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If you are appealing to magic, God could have merely teleported the animals and peoples he wanted to time after the alleged flood.It was not ancient. It was brand new and designed by the Creator of the universe.
It only needed to stay upright as it had no engine.
Do you know how much room a hibernating turtle, that is not breathing, needs?
And there are no waves or even a breeze mentioned, so it needed not be
ocean worthy. It just needed to be buoyant.
God could have had the Ark carved out of rock if He was looking for dramatic effect.
If the story needs to get so elaborate in order to be deemed plausible, one wonders why it wouldn't have been easier to pursue other methods of "cleansing the Earth;" methods that do not involve a globally destructive flood, an unseaworthy vessel that needs magic to avoid sinking, and a devastating population bottleneck.If you are appealing to magic, God could have merely teleported the animals and peoples he wanted to time after the alleged flood.
It was not ancient. It was brand new and designed by the Creator of the universe.
It only needed to stay upright as it had no engine.
Do you know how much room a hibernating turtle, that is not breathing, needs?
And there are no waves or even a breeze mentioned, so it needed not be
ocean worthy. It just needed to be buoyant.
God could have had the Ark carved out of rock if He was looking for dramatic effect.
Not a jot on some faith healers.37 Miracles of Jesus
# Miracle Matthew Mark Luke John
1 Jesus Turns Water into Wine 2:1-11
2 Jesus Heals an Official's Son 4:43-54
3 Jesus Drives Out an Evil Spirit 1:21-27 4:31-36
4 Jesus Heals Peter's Mother-in-Law 8:14-15 1:29-31 4:38-39
5 Jesus Heals Many Sick at Evening 8:16-17 1:32-34 4:40-41
6 First Miraculous Catch of Fish 5:1-11
7 Jesus Cleanses a Man With Leprosy 8:1-4 1:40-45 5:12-14
8 Jesus Heals a Centurion's Servant 8:5-13 7:1-10
9 Jesus Heals a Paralytic 9:1-8 2:1-12 5:17-26
10 Jesus Heals a Man's Withered Hand 12:9-14 3:1-6 6:6-11
11 Jesus Raises a Widow's Son in Nain 7:11-17
12 Jesus Calms a Storm 8:23-27 4:35-41 8:22-25
13 Jesus Casts Demons into a Herd of Pigs 8:28-33 5:1-20 8:26-39
14 Jesus Heals a Woman in the Crowd 9:20-22 5:25-34 8:42-48
15 Jesus Raises Jairus' Daughter to Life 9:18,
23-26 5:21-24,
35-43 8:40-42,
49-56
16 Jesus Heals Two Blind Men 9:27-31
17 Jesus Heals a Man Unable to Speak 9:32-34
18 Jesus Heals an Invalid at Bethesda 5:1-15
19 Jesus Feeds 5,000 14:13-21 6:30-44 9:10-17 6:1-15
20 Jesus Walks on Water 14:22-33 6:45-52 6:16-21
I'm not sure if Saints need one or two miracles under their belt.
List of saints canonized by Pope Francis
Even hiberation doesn't explain how he managed to squeaaze 3,000,000 different species onto the Ark.
Sleeping animals do not need as much space as does a zoo.
http://www.bartonwillmore.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Chester-Zoo-masterplan.jpg
Remember, the creator of the universe made the ark.Even hiberation doesn't explain how he managed to squeaaze 3,000,000 different species onto the Ark.
Try again.
Not a jot on some faith healers.
His failure was in converting his own people.
Even hiberation doesn't explain how he managed to squeaaze 3,000,000 different species onto the Ark.
Try again.
It would help if you would study up on the doctrine of the trinity first. Then maybe we'll continue this exchange.
It also supports a belief in assorted non-divine sources for the universe. If the argument is consistent with both godly and mundane causes for the universe, it certainly can't be said to be in favor of one over the other and is thus off-topic for this thread.The conclusion of the KCA version I advocate is not contested by any scientist (at least no one in this thread has been able to name any scientists that disagree with it) and yet supports a belief in God.
I don't see how me not being able to explain in "extreme detail" how any one of those candidates caused the universe to exist proves anything. I can't explain how a lot of things work, but that doesn't prove that they don't.Ok. Now explain in extreme detail how the Christian god and the other 5 "caused the existence of the universe.
I don't see how me not being able to explain in "extreme detail" how any one of those candidates caused the universe to exist proves anything. I can't explain how a lot of things work, but that doesn't prove that they don't.
I don't need Craig to figure out that you do not understand the doctrine of the Trinity correctly. In any case, I chose not to continue that line of communication because it is off-topic. In this thread, my exchanges have centered around the KCA.WLC didn't have a handy quote to steal from to respond to my argument?
This is just plainly incorrect. For example, the blood on the gloves in the OJ case supports a belief in a narrow range of possible suspects. Putting that evidence together with other evidence further narrows down the list of possible suspects to just one man.It also supports a belief in assorted non-divine sources for the universe. If the argument is consistent with both godly and mundane causes for the universe, it certainly can't be said to be in favor of one over the other and is thus off-topic for this thread.
It happens that my God does make the cut. The characteristics of the cause suggested by the KCA fits perfectly with the Christian god. To say that he doesn't is simply denial.I have already done that. None of them made the cut. If you can't get your personal version of the Christian god over the bar, I would not worry about the others.
This is just plainly incorrect. For example, the blood on the gloves in the OJ case supports a belief in a narrow range of possible suspects. Putting that evidence together with other evidence further narrows down the list of possible suspects to just one man.
In like manner, the KCA supports the belief in a narrow range of suggested beings with specific characteristics. Put that evidence together with other evidence narrows down the list to God.
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