Benny Hinn.

[Sammy-San]

Not for me to judge,but we have gone off topic my apologies Sam.

What is your view on the story of the girl who claimed she left the devil and the occult for God and claimed Benny Hinn predicted she would get out?

 

[GeorgeJ]

Hinn is not WOF, years ago he may have tried to use the Word of Faith movement for his own purpose.
So this is just one more ignorant statement about a movement people judge because they don't know jack about what the topic is.

We know all we need to know........
AN EXAMINATION OF THE WORD-FAITH MOVEMENT
Blog Post
The Word-Faith Movement - by Gary Gilley
Word of Faith Movement | Apologetics Index
Word of Faith Sayings
What is the Word of Faith?
Word of Faith | Theopedia

 

[GeorgeJ]

It is serious business to touch God's anointed,God will deal with fakes or his anointed that falls into sin.

More than a few charlatans and their mislead followers have tried to use your reference to Psalm 105:15 to scare people away from criticizing those who teach a false gospel and holding them to accountability. Each time they do this, they completely misrepresent that passage.

Of course, this all based upon a questionable assumption that they were ever "anointed" in the first place.

There may be a rule in the wof forum that prohibits folks from criticizing the idols and false teachers of word-faith, but there is no such rule here.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

I have followed Walter Veith on his teaching ,from evolution to the big bang and the battle of the Bibles.
Recently I noticed the SDA promoting the New King James.
I was a bit shocked due to the teaching being King James as long as I remember.

On Ellen White all I can say is God's Word is of no private interpretation.

So your interpretation of God's Word is not a private one, but hers is? Was the founder of you faith's interpretation of God's Word a private one?

The SDA General Conference does not dictate which bible is used, that issue is up to the individual.

Your first statement needs clarification as Walter Veith is a creationist who teaches against evolution.

 

[now faith]

So your interpretation of God's Word is not a private one, but hers is? Was the founder of you faith's interpretation of God's Word a private one?

The SDA General Conference does not dictate which bible is used, that issue is up to the individual.

Your first statement needs clarification as Walter Veith is a creationist who teaches against evolution.

Yes in posting rapid response I intended to say Walter Veith is a proponent of creation over evoloution.

I am not the founder of a religious group that practices following the sanitary ordinances of the Old Testament.
Fins and scales is not a command of Christ,it was from the law of Moses.

2 Peter: 1. 19. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I am a Bible beliving Christian who's founder is Jesus Christ.
If you notice I have mentioned someone from SDA more than Word of Faith.
I value solid teaching ,and have found that Word of Faith teaches a sound Bibical Truth.
The only problem with Word of Faith is the misrepresentation of the name due to it being a movement rather than a denomination.

 

[now faith]

More than a few charlatans and their mislead followers have tried to use your reference to Psalm 105:15 to scare people away from criticizing those who teach a false gospel and holding them to accountability. Each time they do this, they completely misrepresent that passage.

Of course, this all based upon a questionable assumption that they were ever "anointed" in the first place.

There may be a rule in the wof forum that prohibits folks from criticizing the idols and false teachers of word-faith, but there is no such rule here.

There is a rule in Romans that may help:
Romans: 2. 1. Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 3. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4. Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5. But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

We can critize who we want ,but at the least who ever we do make sure they are part of the group you align them with.
Benny Hinn ,Benny Hill or Benny and the Jets are not part of the Word of Faith Movement.

 

[now faith]

What is your view on the story of the girl who claimed she left the devil and the occult for God and claimed Benny Hinn predicted she would get out?

How can I determine if her story is valid?
I simply take her word for it ,rather than calling her a liar.
Without having a complete understanding of events I cannot make a reasonable assumption.

 

[Sammy-San]

How can I determine if her story is valid?
I simply take her word for it ,rather than calling her a liar.
Without having a complete understanding of events I cannot make a reasonable assumption.

What is your view on angela greenig?

 

[now faith]

We know all we need to know........
AN EXAMINATION OF THE WORD-FAITH MOVEMENT
Blog Post
The Word-Faith Movement - by Gary Gilley
Word of Faith Movement | Apologetics Index
Word of Faith Sayings
What is the Word of Faith?
Word of Faith | Theopedia

Good job on believing everything some idiot blogs
You can find the same trash about:

Every Church Group that exist other than the group the blogger belongs to.

Hey check out the Baptist who call dead solders names ,I guess that makes all Baptist part of the same bunch.
No fact check just accusation lol scientology ?

Why don't we keep to the topic of this thread?

 

[now faith]

What is your view on angela greenig?

I am very cautious about deliverance ministry.
My view is we have authority in the name of Jesus,so I don't talk to devils and spirits.
The devil is a liar anyway.

 

[Sammy-San]

I am very cautious about deliverance ministry.
My view is we have authority in the name of Jesus,so I don't talk to devils and spirits.
The devil is a liar anyway.

What is your view on deliverance ministry? Is it different from exorcism to you?

 

[GeorgeJ]

Why don't we keep to the topic of this thread?

The topic of this thread is "Benny Hinn". Each one of those links I posted about wof discussed Benny Hinn in them somewhere. Just because you don't want Benny Hinn to be wof, doesn't mean he isn't.

If it quacks like a duck............

The links I posted were for the benefit of others who might not understand what the charlatans of word-faith are all about. Being a proponent of wof yourself, I don't expect you'd agree.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

I am not the founder of a religious group that practices following the sanitary ordinances of the Old Testament.
Fins and scales is not a command of Christ,it was from the law of Moses.

I guess then that you dispute these verse in the Bible as God Spoke to Moses the dietary laws and he wrote them down.
Matthew 4:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Deuteronomy 8:3
And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

 

[Sammy-San]

I've heard of no particular stories other than this one that I recall, but I have little doubt people come to their senses, whether it be from involvement in the occult, a cult or whatever and do get out.

I find this suspect because of the circumstances surrounding it, that being mainly Hinn. I found the following without really looking that hard, so not sure what else is out there, but this is enough to tell us plenty.

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

The bible is very clear that we'll know when Christ returns, "we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye" and any claims like Hinn has made in the clip to get more people in his meetings, hence more money, are absolutely bogus.

Did Benny Hinn claim he got it from God?

 

[tturt]

Why don't you asks God about it yourself?

 

[Sammy-San]

Why don't you asks God about it yourself?

About Benny Hinn or the story with the girl in the video?

 

[tturt]

both

Have you ever asks Yahweh about something previously that your opinion was so strong one way? You don't have to answer that question. You believe that Yahweh still speaks? Learned to hear Him? Ever heard Him tell you to do something that you didn't want to do? It's a place of hearing that would help us all.

 

[Sammy-San]

I've heard of no particular stories other than this one that I recall, but I have little doubt people come to their senses, whether it be from involvement in the occult, a cult or whatever and do get out.

I find this suspect because of the circumstances surrounding it, that being mainly Hinn. I found the following without really looking that hard, so not sure what else is out there, but this is enough to tell us plenty.

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

The bible is very clear that we'll know when Christ returns, "we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye" and any claims like Hinn has made in the clip to get more people in his meetings, hence more money, are absolutely bogus.

What about Benny Hinn saying he didn't believe the Word of Faith doctrine?

 

[now faith]

I guess then that you dispute these verse in the Bible as God Spoke to Moses the dietary laws and he wrote them down.
Matthew 4:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Deuteronomy 8:3
And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.

Acts: 11. 7. And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat. 8. But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth. 9. But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


Acts: 15. 24. Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: 25. It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26. Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27. We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28. For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29. That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 30. So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: 31. Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.

Galatians: 3. 10. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

 

[now faith]

The topic of this thread is "Benny Hinn". Each one of those links I posted about wof discussed Benny Hinn in them somewhere. Just because you don't want Benny Hinn to be wof, doesn't mean he isn't.

If it quacks like a duck............

The links I posted were for the benefit of others who might not understand what the charlatans of word-faith are all about. Being a proponent of wof yourself, I don't expect you'd agree.

I posted the Word of Faith statement of faith.

Can you give me the points you disagree with?
You will need to read it ,but I would like to know what the ax is you are grinding.