Benjamin Netanyahu is going to start WWIII and kill lots of his own people.

[stevevw]

The surprise attack on Isreal is more or less the same surprise attacks committed on the West like with 9/11 and other attacks against Western targets by a growing number of terror groups. They have been happening for years and is becoming more frequent.

So I think the Isreali terror attacks are the inevitable result of an ideology that has been left to fester and grow and I don't think anything could have been done to change this course of history which was birthed with the same radicalism.

These radicals believe not only should Isreal be wiped off the face of the earth but that the West is an abomination which should be stopped. What we are seeing now is the logical evolution of this radical ideology that the free world has been ignoring and now its coming home to roost. If not the Isrealis it will inevitably be another Western target in the future that we will have to deal with because it won't stop.

The world has changed after Covid, we are more security and safty conscious and it seems we are closer so events that happen anywhere are effecting everyones sense of well being. Therefore every attack that happens post Covid is now felt more and if not the Isreal attacks it will be another one against the West which will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Its now realized that the world and especially a free world cannot tolerate these terror attacks anymore and its coming to a head. Its like one too many abuses that cannot be tolerated to the point the victims are reacting in a fight for their life. Otherwise their life is not worth living. They would rather die then live subject to such tyranny and terror.

I think this is the point the entire world is at and theres no going back. Its either peace or deal with the threat to world safety and peace. The world has left dealing with this for too long. Its past the point of reason now. The genie is out of the bottle so to speak. Whether this was inevitable maybe. But I cannot see radicalism stopping but ion fact growing no matter what Isreal and the free world does.

So its a crucial time that will either lead to some sort of resolution that involves all powers be it peace or all out war. But to be honest I think the horse has already bolted as this radicalism will only get worse before it gets better. Even if there is a peace agreement we know from the MO of radical ideology that it will be broken again as it has done in the past.

 

[Robban]

The surprise attack on Isreal is more or less the same surprise attacks committed on the West like with 9/11 and other attacks against Western targets by a growing number of terror groups. They have been happening for years and is becoming more frequent.

So I think the Isreali terror attacks are the inevitable result of an ideology that has been left to fester and grow and I don't think anything could have been done to change this course of history which was birthed with the same radicalism.

These radicals believe not only should Isreal be wiped off the face of the earth but that the West is an abomination which should be stopped. What we are seeing now is the logical evolution of this radical ideology that the free world has been ignoring and now its coming home to roost. If not the Isrealis it will inevitably be another Western target in the future that we will have to deal with because it won't stop.

The world has changed after Covid, we are more security and safty conscious and it seems we are closer so events that happen anywhere are effecting everyones sense of well being. Therefore every attack that happens post Covid is now felt more and if not the Isreal attacks it will be another one against the West which will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Its now realized that the world and especially a free world cannot tolerate these terror attacks anymore and its coming to a head. Its like one too many abuses that cannot be tolerated to the point the victims are reacting in a fight for their life. Otherwise their life is not worth living. They would rather die then live subject to such tyranny and terror.

I think this is the point the entire world is at and theres no going back. Its either peace or deal with the threat to world safety and peace. The world has left dealing with this for too long. Its past the point of reason now. The genie is out of the bottle so to speak. Whether this was inevitable maybe. But I cannot see radicalism stopping but ion fact growing no matter what Isreal and the free world does.

So its a crucial time that will either lead to some sort of resolution that involves all powers be it peace or all out war. But to be honest I think the horse has already bolted as this radicalism will only get worse before it gets better. Even if there is a peace agreement we know from the MO of radical ideology that it will be broken again as it has done in the past.

Job 1:13-15

Are there dots to connect?

 

[Robban]

Job 1:13-15

Are there dots to connect?

#1, "Terrorism"
is not new.

#2, Work of the "Prosecuter"
limited by permission.

#3,The Prosecuter cannot bear that the Amighty holds up an example of righteousness.

The prosecuter is on the Amighty's payroll,with a .dirty job to do.

 

[stevevw]

Job 1:13-15

Are there dots to connect?

Not sure what you mean. If you mean how Job also describes a suprise attack then yes but this is happening more often nowadays. Whether that is a sign of the times for Christs return I am not sure.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Whether that is a sign of the times for Christs return I am not sure.

Robban is Jewish so you might rephrase that to "Whether that is a sign of the times for Moshiakh to come I am not sure."

 

[Robban]

Not sure what you mean. If you mean how Job also describes a suprise attack then yes but this is happening more often nowadays. Whether that is a sign of the times for Christs return I am not sure.

well, it started off well, but I do not believe we can think two thoughts at the same time.

I recieved a letter that was distracting, instead of putting it aside,
I opened it and read, interrupting my train of thought.

The prosecuter is a smart dude.

The thought started with, if Job is symbolic of a person/persons/nation.

 

[Robban]

The story goes that,
the prosecuter complained that it was meaningless to continue.

"My cover has been blown"
He recieved a comforting reply.

" No worries we will change your name, you will be called, Satan."

Edit, "The Satan" it is a job description.

 

[Robban]

Robban is Jewish so you might rephrase that to "Whether that is a sign of the times for Moshiakh to come I am not sure."

Maybe today?

 

[stevevw]

Robban is Jewish so you might rephrase that to "Whether that is a sign of the times for Moshiakh to come I am not sure."

OK that explains things a bit.

 

[Stephen3141]

You're dealing with a generation of Israeli citizens, who were not around
during the Holocaust, or the founding of Israel.

New immigrants to Israel, have often been Orthodox Jews, who are not
willing to make compromises with surrounding Arab countries. This would
be like the far right Proud Boys taking over the Congress.

The current move of the Israeli government to move away from
democracy, and subject government decisions to Orthodox Jewish
beliefs, will have ramifications as to how the nation of Israel deals
with other countries.

In the past, multiple times, Israel has offered a 2-state solution to the
Palestinians, who have rejected it.

The current military action in the Gaza Strip, was triggered by a terrorist
attack of Hamas, working out of the Gaza Strip.


This is the complicated background, of the military action in the
Gaza Strip. Netanyahu had close ties to the founders of Israel, who
were tough soldiers who had to fight for their survival. But, he is also
responding to the serious move toward Orthodox Judaism, among
Israeli citizens. And, as always, Israel does not want Iran to get an
atomic bomb, because the radical Islamic leadership of Iran probably would
nuke Israel.


I think that there is more danger of Donald Trump starting WW III, than
Netanyahu. Or Putin. Or, possibly Xi in Communist China. Or the government
of Pakistan, that already has atomic weapons and is already falling apart
from radical Islamic terrorist groups.

We are living in a really dangerous world, with atomic weapons.
And the Internet offers a massive electronic propaganda machine,
for all who have money and evil intention.

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

This is not a prophecy. But this is where the world is going if this madness does not stop.

I did not write "Israel" because I believe many Israelis themselves are opposed to Benjamin Netanyahu's self-destructive plans.

Not only is Benjamin Netanyahu causing widespread deaths of innocents, he's also encouraging the persecution of the Jews by his actions.

Benjamin Netanyahu is a threat not only to the region but also to Israel and the whole world.

I'm just saying, this guy must be stopped and eventually tried as war criminal. He's behaving like the enemy, even to his own people!

I'm not personally prone to speculation about such things as world politics or conflicts, but I will offer the following observation. You may very well be right. We may be on the precipice of the "War to end all wars" (where have we heard that before?). It may be a far worse scenario than even the ones you describe. With that in mind shouldn't we as Christians let powers of this world worry about the woes of this world (since they are the only ones that actually affect the outcome anyway) and instead use our time and resources with a renewed urgency doing God's work as it may be later than we think?

 

[honey badger]

I'm not personally prone to speculation about such things as world politics or conflicts, but I will offer the following observation. You may very well be right. We may be on the precipice of the "War to end all wars" (where have we heard that before?). It may be a far worse scenario than even the ones you describe. With that in mind shouldn't we as Christians let powers of this world worry about the woes of this world (since they are the only ones that actually affect the outcome anyway) and instead use our time and resources with a renewed urgency doing God's work as it may be later than we think?

how do we do Gods work seeing it is finnished ... and why Jesus having entered into His finnished work said he can do nothing of himself ...

in this where is judgement ... i mean are we to judge Gods work by our own perception of it , and therefore what is our own if we be in Him !

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

how do we do Gods work seeing it is finnished ... and why Jesus having entered into His finnished work said he can do nothing of himself ...

in this where is judgement ... i mean are we to judge Gods work by our own perception of it , and therefore what is our own if we be in Him !

You ask where is the judgement. Christ taught us not to judge anyone. We should simply do what Christ taught us to do. Things like sharing the Gospel, feeding the poor, helping those are are struggling or may be less fortunate than ourselves, or in other words use whatever resources God blesses us with to help those in need, whether spiritual or physical. God's work isn't finished. For the time being, He has given us our part to do on this Earth through the teachings of Christ. He'll take back the reigns someday, so we should do as much as we can until that day comes. Then God will do the judging!

 

[honey badger]

You ask where is the judgement. Christ taught us not to judge anyone. We should simply do what Christ taught us to do. Things like sharing the Gospel, feeding the poor, helping those are are struggling or may be less fortunate than ourselves, or in other words use whatever resources God blesses us with to help those in need, whether spiritual or physical. God's work isn't finished. For the time being, He has given us our part to do on this Earth through the teachings of Christ. He'll take back the reigns someday, so we should do as much as we can until that day comes. Then God will do the judging!

this what you speek is the message of a serpent ... a tree to make one wise ... albeit not out of the order of things ... Jesus entered into His rest as in he walked out prophecy ... an end declared from the beginning ...

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

this what you speek is the message of a serpent ... a tree to make one wise ... albeit not out of the order of things ... Jesus entered into His rest as in he walked out prophecy ... an end declared from the beginning ...

What I speak is the words of Christ. Please don't call them "the message of a serpent". You speak of "an end declared from the beginning", Christ spoke of new beginnings. I'll take the words of Christ. You state that "Jesus entered into His rest as in he walked out on prophecy." Have you forgotten, that He told us that He would return someday? He also told us what we should do until that day comes and how to live our lives so as to avoid that judgement that you inquire about.

 

[honey badger]

What I speak is the words of Christ. Please don't call them "the message of a serpent". You speak of "an end declared from the beginning", Christ spoke of new beginnings. I'll take the words of Christ. You state that "Jesus entered into His rest as in he walked out on prophecy." Have you forgotten, that He told us that He would return someday? He also told us what we should do until that day comes and how to live our lives so as to avoid that judgement that you inquire about.

the end is the new beginnng ... if you study it out you will find that judgement is unto victory ...

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

the end is the new beginnng ... if you study it out you will find that judgement is unto victory ...

All I can say, is in that new beginning, "I want to be in that number when the saints go marching in" so I'll stick with the words of Christ.

 

[honey badger]

All I can say, is in that new beginning, "I want to be in that number when the saints go marching in" so I'll stick with the words of Christ.

so your numbering Israel ... this is a judgement as in a measurement which is a truth you hold to ... a big fat idol with brittle feet ...

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

so your numbering Israel ... this is a judgement as in a measurement which is a truth you hold to ... a big fat idol with brittle feet

Am I numbering Israel? Even if I had the desire, someones already beat me to it! FYI, as of March 2023, Israel's population stands at approximately 9.73 million. "
"So teach us to number our days, That we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. Return, O LORD, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. O satisfy us early with thy mercy; That we may rejoice and be glad all our days. Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, And the years wherein we have seen evil. Let thy work appear unto thy servants, And thy glory unto their children. And let the beauty of the LORD our God be upon us: And establish thou the work of our hands upon us; Yea, the work of our hands establish thou it."

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[honey badger]

Am I numbering Israel? Even if I had the desire, someones already beat me to it! FYI, as of March 2023, Israel's population stands at approximately 9.73 million. "
"So teach us to number our days, That we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. Return, O LORD, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. O satisfy us early with thy mercy; That we may rejoice and be glad all our days. Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, And the years wherein we have seen evil. Let thy work appear unto thy servants, And thy glory unto their children. And let the beauty of the LORD our God be upon us: And establish thou the work of our hands upon us; Yea, the work of our hands establish thou it."

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i see your reasoning is found wanting ... its ok all the prophets of the OT had to find out there own reasoning was as dung ...