Benjamin Netanyahu is going to start WWIII and kill lots of his own people.

[honey badger]

they blank them out but yeah there are videos

i saw the blanked out evidence and it pertained to a few burnt babys .... not evidence to support 40 decapitaed babys ...

 

[Ivan Hlavanda]

Amos 1 6 Thus says the Lord:

“For three transgressions of Gaza,
and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom. 7 So I will send a fire upon the wall of Gaza, and it shall devour her strongholds. 8 I will cut off the inhabitants from Ashdod, and him who holds the scepter from Ashkelon;
I will turn my hand against Ekron,
and the remnant of the Philistines shall perish,” says the Lord God.

Zephaniah 2 4 For Gaza shall be deserted,


Zechariah 9 5 Ashkelon shall see it, and be afraid;
Gaza too, and shall writhe in anguish;

 

[honey badger]

My comment was directed to Yeshua HaDerekh.

i apologise ... just a bit riled up ... children are getting butchered as we speak and all i get from many pro zionists is to be accused of being anti semetic ... Jesus was a Jew and i see him as my brother in every sense of the word

 

[Landon Caeli]

I can't fault him for identifying the creation of the State of Israel in Palestine as being the ultimate source of the pain, bloodshed, and death associated with the current conflict, as the current conflict did not exist until after the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 and the calamitous events that befell the Palestinians as a result of this. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

dzheremi, are you suggesting that the Jews in Palestine should not have formulated a government of their own? Or are you suggesting that Jews should not have been permitted to relocate there, based on their ethnicity?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Amos 1 6 Thus says the Lord:

“For three transgressions of Gaza,
and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom.

wowzers.

 

[Vanellus]

you did not provide any evidence to disprove what i said in my post to Yeshua haDereh ... a part of which i stated "oh and still no actual testimony of rapes or babys been decapitated all of which is second and third hand hearsay " to which you offered up a couple of videos ( one of which i had already viewed ) and these videos made no mention of the atrocites that insighted the current blood bath ...

go watch the press confrence where Biden states he saw images of babys getting their heads chopped of ... he is lying ... he says he saw it and then says he has had it confirmed ... can not be both ... subseqently this statement of his was withdrawn ... look it up yourself

you see i was also shocked to my core when hearing these things as most ... but istead of letting my emotion run wild i searched for confirmation ... i looked long and hard ( i still am ) and what i found is it all lead back to one female reporter who was told by a IDF member he saw babys burned and in pieces .and in another report an Israeli soldier having his head chopped of after death .. thing is there are lots of confirmed wittness acounts ( names and face ) who are saying things which does not fit the narative coming out of the IDF .... like Yasmin Porat to throw in an actual wittness name ... happy hunting

I think the issue is not the use of the word "confirmed" but that the White House issued a later retraction indicating that Biden hadn't seen what was first claimed

A White House official also said that neither Biden nor the administration had seen these images. Biden made the statement after referring to comments by Israeli officials and reports in the media.

The White House retracts Biden's statement that Hamas beheaded children

also:
White House walks back Biden comments on seeing images of beheaded Israeli children

 

[Landon Caeli]

I don't feel like the isolated incident of beheaded babies is within the topic, so much as it's a tangent discussion.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Isn't the Jewish population of the West Bank increasing via illegal settlements?

Are they stealing land or buying it?

 

[Vanellus]

Are they stealing land or buying it?

Diversion from the main issue: they are illegal.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Diversion from the main issue: they are illegal.

How? Arabs can buy land in Israel...

 

[dzheremi]

dzheremi, are you suggesting that the Jews in Palestine should not have formulated a government of their own? Or are you suggesting that Jews should not have been permitted to relocate there, based on their ethnicity?

I think Jews (and anyone) should be allowed to immigrate anywhere they wish to. The problem is not Jews being Jews, which was the entire point of my post.

I don't believe Israel should have some kind of eternal right to maintain its status as a Jewish ethno(religious)-state at the expense of everyone else who lives there. The Armenians, for instance, don't get to treat the Yazidis and Kurds (Armenia treats these as separate populations in its census figures, though many other places do not) who have immigrated to their country (who would be the largest ethnic minority group in the country at over 3%, if they were counted together; Armenia is estimated to be over 93% ethnic Armenian, so 3%+ is actually a large slice of what remains) as second-class citizens by virtue of their different ethnicity, language, and religions to that of the ethnic Armenian majority, and I'm highlighting the Armenians in particular here because they were subject to genocide in 1915-1917, long before the European Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis in 1933-1945, so if "Israel has the right to behave this way as a country because of the Holocaust" were a justification for behaving terribly, you'd think that Armenians would have that right even before Jews. But they don't -- not even when facing off many times in recent decades in armed conflicts against their traditional enemies in Azerbaijan, who would like to finish what they started centuries ago in Nakhchivan. Because no one has that right.

Being the victim of terrible things does not give you the right to oppress everyone around you forever and ever, in perpetuity throughout the universe. It doesn't matter if the victims are Jews, Palestinian Arabs, Armenians, Yezidis and Kurds, or any other type of person you can think of. Yet thanks to the success of their propaganda campaign in the West, particularly in the USA, Israel is the only country where treating them like you would treat any other country or people can you get labeled an "anti-semite", as though not wanting states to behave like Hitler is magically the same as behaving like Hitler yourself. I don't buy it. That is absolute nonsense and equivocation for the benefit of shaping everything anyone could say to fit the black-and-white extremism of Israel's propaganda, where if you're not "with them", you support what Hamas has done. Well I'm not with Israel, and I'm not with Hamas. If I have to be with anyone, I'm with the Christians, because as usual, they are crushed between two fighting majorities, neither of which are willing to stop the cycle of recrimination and violence for fear of what the other might do if they put their weapons down, and they do not fit in neatly on either side (since they're not Jews like the majority of Israelis, and they're not Muslims like the majority of Palestinians).

 

[Landon Caeli]

I think Jews (and anyone) should be allowed to immigrate anywhere they wish to. The problem is not Jews being Jews, which was the entire point of my post.

I don't believe Israel should have some kind of eternal right to maintain its status as a Jewish ethno(religious)-state at the expense of everyone else who lives there. The Armenians, for instance, don't get to treat the Yazidis and Kurds (Armenia treats these as separate populations in its census figures, though many other places do not) who have immigrated to their country (who would be the largest ethnic minority group in the country at over 3%, if they were counted together; Armenia is estimated to be over 93% ethnic Armenian, so 3%+ is actually a large slice of what remains) as second-class citizens by virtue of their different ethnicity, language, and religions to that of the ethnic Armenian majority, and I'm highlighting the Armenians in particular here because they were subject to genocide in 1915-1917, long before the European Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis in 1933-1945, so if "Israel has the right to behave this way as a country because of the Holocaust" were a justification for behaving terribly, you'd think that Armenians would have that right even before Jews. But they don't -- not even when facing off many times in recent decades in armed conflicts against their traditional enemies in Azerbaijan, who would like to finish what they started centuries ago in Nakhchivan. Because no one has that right.

Being the victim of terrible things does not give you the right to oppress everyone around you forever and ever, in perpetuity throughout the universe. It doesn't matter if the victims are Jews, Palestinian Arabs, Armenians, Yezidis and Kurds, or any other type of person you can think of. Yet thanks to the success of their propaganda campaign in the West, particularly in the USA, Israel is the only country where treating them like you would treat any other country or people can you get labeled an "anti-semite", as though not wanting states to behave like Hitler is magically the same as behaving like Hitler yourself. I don't buy it. That is absolute nonsense and equivocation for the benefit of shaping everything anyone could say to fit the black-and-white extremism of Israel's propaganda, where if you're not "with them", you support what Hamas has done. Well I'm not with Israel, and I'm not with Hamas. If I have to be with anyone, I'm with the Christians, because as usual, they are crushed between two fighting majorities, neither of which are willing to stop the cycle of recrimination and violence for fear of what the other might do if they put their weapons down, and they do not fit in neatly on either side (since they're not Jews like the majority of Israelis, and they're not Muslims like the majority of Palestinians).

I don't underatand a couple things I was hoping you could help out with... Why do people say that Israel treats Palestinians bad? Is it the ethnic Palastinians within Israel (who make up 20% of the population) that are being treated bad? Or is it those in Gaza and the West Bank? If it's those in Gaza and the West Bank, why would Israel be responsible for their treatment to begin with? Shouldn't they be managing themselves?

If it's those ethnic Palestinians living inside Israel that are being treated bad, then how are they being treated bad?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

 

[Landon Caeli]

Strange how they look like normal people... But they're monsters.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Shani was beheaded

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

i saw the blanked out evidence and it pertained to a few burnt babys .... not evidence to support 40 decapitaed babys ...

"a few burnt babies"? wow...really?

 

[Gene2memE]

If it's those ethnic Palestinians living inside Israel that are being treated bad, then how are they being treated bad?

From this essay: Israel as an Ethnic Democracy: Palestinian Citizens and the Fight for Equal Rights

"Presently, discrimination against Israeli Palestinians is prevalent in many spheres of life, including land allocation, housing, municipality budgets, employment, education, urban development, and basic civil rights. Israeli Arabs are in the periphery of the job market. They are among the first to be dismissed in hard times for the economy, and the last to re-enter the job market when it revives. Arab citizens are discriminated in land access, land planning, rural and urban development, and housing provisions. Arabs own only 2.5% of Israel’s lands, and they lack the ability to acquire the majority of Israeli land."

More information:

What to Know About the Arab Citizens of Israel

Arabs represent one-fifth of Israel’s population. Systemic discrimination, outbreaks of communal violence, and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue to strain their ties with Israel’s Jew…

www.cfr.org

The Discriminatory Laws Database - Adalah

Adalah’s Discriminatory Laws Database (DLD) is an online resource comprising a list of over 65 Israeli laws that discriminate directly or indirectly against Palestinian citizens in Israel and/or Palestinian residents of the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) on the basis of their national...

www.adalah.org

Statistical Report on Arab Society in Israel :2021

Arab society in Israel is being revolutionized by the rise in the standard of living, life expectancy and education, along with the decline in fertility rates, changes to family structures, and an increasing desire to realize individual aspirations at the expense of collective values.

en.idi.org.il

 

[Vanellus]

How? Arabs can buy land in Israel...

United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334 - Wikipedia
Security Council Resolution 2334 - UNSCR

Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory is unlawful under international law due to its permanence and the Israeli government’s de facto annexation policies, a UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry said in its first report, published on Thursday.

Land is often confiscated for military purposes but then used for settlement construction, the report found.

Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal: UN rights commission

 

[timewerx]

"a few burnt babies"? wow...really?

On the other-hand, thousands more Palestinians dying under the rubble and these included babies and children too.

Like a huge earthquake tore through their land.

Do you know many victims of building collapse don't die painlessly/instantly? Many would remain alive in agony for a few more days. The worst fate of those trapped alive under the rubble is being eaten alive by rats. I think that's worse than getting beheaded or burned alive.

I'm sorry but I'm with UN's sentiment. The madly disproportionate response of Israel must be stopped. Don't be so naive to easily accept propaganda that over sensationalize Israel dead. What about those they killed in much greater numbers?

And in case you guys don't know, the Jews living in Israel right now are Judaists. AKA Pharisees. Do you support the unGodly actions of the Pharisees?

Read John Chapter 8. Jesus called them liars and murderers, and sons of the devil.

I do believe God Put the Jews in Palestine for a reason and if we read in the Bible, Ezekiel? Sorry I forgot which book. "To turn their hearts of stone (which is right now) into flesh". The only way this is going to happen is if the Jews are humbled NOT by supporting them in their atrocities.