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There's no problem with ontological reduction - and Mr. Occam recommends not multiplying entities unnecessarily - especially not introducing whole ill-defined, inexplicable, unobservable ontologies...The $64.00 term for this, JB, is: ontological reduction.
A term that is truly an evolutionist's nightmare.
And they WILL NOT discuss it.
Can't say as I blame them either.
I did all that!?There's no problem with ontological reduction - and Mr. Occam recommends not multiplying entities unnecessarily - especially not introducing whole ill-defined, inexplicable, unobservable ontologies...
Parsimony doesn't explain the order that these "whole ill-defined, inexplicable, unobservable ontologies" arrived on the earth:FrumiousBandersnatch said:It's called 'parsimony'.
We call them "miracles."FrumiousBandersnatch said:You can't explain the unexplained with the inexplicable.
What is unexplainable is why some people believe those things when pretty much all scientific evidence contradicts them.I did all that!?Parsimony doesn't explain the order that these "whole ill-defined, inexplicable, unobservable ontologies" arrived on the earth:
1. Earth before Sun
3. Plants before marine organisms
4. Fruit bearing trees before fish
5. Birds before insects
6. Plants before Sun
7. Man before rain
So whether well-defined or ill-defined, they can't be explained
The rest of the world calls them something else.We call them "miracles."
If I went by scientific evidence, there's a LOT of stuff I wouldn't believe: Jesus walking on water, the Resurrection, Christ's ascension, virgin birth ... and on and on and on.What is unexplainable is why some people believe those things when pretty much all scientific evidence contradicts them.
The rest of the world is wrong.MIDutch]The rest of the world calls them something else.
As far as am aware, there is no scientific evidence whatever related to the virgin birth, the Resurrection or any of those other miracles, neither for nor against. It seems to me that you are trying to "resurrect" 57's Dead Guy argument. And so we are back to Bible. For most Christians, the truth of the Gospels does not depend on the literary genre which they assign to Genesis.If I went by scientific evidence, there's a LOT of stuff I wouldn't believe: Jesus walking on water, the Resurrection, Christ's ascension, virgin birth ... and on and on and on.
And while that might get me straight A's in college, I'd flunk in the end.The rest of the world is wrong.
Anyone who invokes the supernatural.I did all that!?
That's historical fiction - no further explanation necessary. The available evidence suggests a more rational order of events.Parsimony doesn't explain the order that these "whole ill-defined, inexplicable, unobservable ontologies" arrived on the earth:
1. Earth before Sun
2. Light before Sun
3. Plants before marine organisms
4. Fruit bearing trees before fish
5. Birds before insects
6. Plants before Sun
7. Man before rain
So whether well-defined or ill-defined, they can't be explained.We call them "miracles."
So they aren't scientific, are they?As far as am aware, there is no scientific evidence whatever related to the virgin birth, the Resurrection or any of those other miracles, neither for nor against.
Well.That's historical fiction - no further explanation necessary. The available evidence suggests a more rational order of events.
It makes rational sense of it. No need to decide between invisible cosmic elephants on the back of invisible cosmic turtles, or cosmic serpents laying Earth-size eggs, or fantastical Genesis stories, etc., since they're all creation myths and there's a better rational natural explanation with supporting evidence.Well.
That takes care of that, doesn't it?
You're mything the point.It makes rational sense of it. No need to decide between invisible cosmic elephants on the back of invisible cosmic turtles, or cosmic serpents laying Earth-size eggs, or fantastical Genesis stories, etc., since they're all creation myths and there's a better rational natural explanation with supporting evidence.
You know what... every single car.. has a steering wheel.. but.. are different manufacturers...
Seems like when something works well ... it gets used in many models and makes....
Just like the similarities in all of God's creation...
No proof of evolution.. just proof of a designer.
Lamarckism?You could say a snake has leftover legs because God wasn't very thorough when he purged the legs...
The rest of the world is wrong.
Its still... a steering wheel.Steering wheels change as materials and designs change. If Ford develops a new way of making steering wheels they can roll it out across the whole line of cars. You don't need to redevelop each car's steering wheels independently.
An intelligent designer could do the same to life... but life only falls into branches. Techniques are developed separately and not according to function.
The American timber wolf is more genetically related to humans then it is to the Tasmanian wolf... that makes perfect sense if modern marsupials diverged after they got to Australia, but is silly if you propose an intelligent designer.
With your flawed car example you didn't respond to my example. Why do species have atavistic traits?
You could say a snake has leftover legs because God wasn't very thorough when he purged the legs... but why do birds have teeth/maw genes?
Well, do I have to say it again?Which is of course what just about everyone believes.
That is correct, and you're mything it.It's the believers in myths that myth the point.
Actually humans claim that's what God said, we have no evidence that God said anything of the sort.Well, do I have to say it again?
Truth.. is not a democracy..
7 billion people can believe one thing.
20 people believe the opposite... and be right..
Truth couldn't care how many people deny it...
God said that the path is narrow... Didn't need to be too wide for the minority of the masses that will take it.
Truth couldn't care how many people deny it...
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