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Calling JohnRabbit. I'm wondering if this is all the explaination you have about the first covenant that you said I don't understand. Where art thou? Speak up please.
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To answer your last question: if you believe in a millennial reign of Jesus on this earth, yes, at that time the sorcerer will be judged by Torah. It is not dead, abolished, nailed to the cross, or made null and void - but what was civil punishment while Israel was under the rule of God alone could not continue once they were under other authority, and it can't be reinstituted now because at this time there is no priesthood nor a temple.
I'd like to ask you one question, I've no intention of getting into a big debate or discussion over this. I'm just curious how you reconcile Jesus' statement in Matt 5:17-19 against what you think Gal 3:10 is saying. If you think those two passages are at odds with each other, to whom do you give greater authority and why.
Calling JohnRabbit. I'm wondering if this is all the explaination you have about the first covenant that you said I don't understand. Where art thou? Speak up please.
You're right, I didn't make any connection between the two passages, not all has yet been fulfilled, and in my vocabulary forever means forever.
I was and still am curious how such opposing statements are reconciled in your mind (or rather, the poster to whom I originally asked).
We don't agree but I have been where you are at, and that's why I asked, because I came to that place where I had to figure out how to reconcile the scriptures as a whole and that's why I'm of the opinion I hold now. Where I'm standing there are no inconsistancies nor oppositions in scripture (at least not in this particular area).
Have a wonderful Sunday.
To answer your last question: if you believe in a millennial reign of Jesus on this earth, yes, at that time the sorcerer will be judged by Torah. It is not dead, abolished, nailed to the cross, or made null and void - but what was civil punishment while Israel was under the rule of God alone could not continue once they were under other authority, and it can't be reinstituted now because at this time there is no priesthood nor a temple.
I'd like to ask you one question, I've no intention of getting into a big debate or discussion over this. I'm just curious how you reconcile Jesus' statement in Matt 5:17-19 against what you think Gal 3:10 is saying. If you think those two passages are at odds with each other, to whom do you give greater authority and why.
I guess that would be a good starting place or places as the case may be. I'm trying very hard to let him show me what I don't understand. My problemis that I don't wish him to think I accept what he says becasue I say nothing and that we'll need to come back and cover the ground in detail. For now I'll just assume he is busy as life happens.OK thought I would show up again. What is it about the first covenant you do not understand, Scratch? I think that JohnRabbit and you are the primary debaters in this instance. I think that because I understand he challenged you. I did not see where JohnRabbit even identified who the covenant was made with or much of it contents. Hhe said that the Israelites were already obeying the covenant by keeping the Sabbath and that the covenant must not have been complete because it was added to. What has that got to do with the contentents or purpose of the covenant?
Of course he is referring to Gal 3:19 for the added part. But what is called the law? Is it not the ten commandments and the other 603 laws found in the first 5 books of the Bible?
So who is the covenant made with? What is in the covenant? Does any or all of apply to all people other than the Jews? Is there a purpose of the covenant? I really do not see JohnRabbit coming forth with anything about the covenant. So I do not understand what he is saying you do not understand about it. Hope he delivers.
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I guess that would be a good starting place or places as the case may be. I'm trying very hard to let him show me what I don't understand. My problemis that I don't wish him to think I accept what he says becasue I say nothing and that we'll need to come back and cover the ground in detail. For now I'll just assume he is busy as life happens.
Would I love to engage your question, but it is only a problem either way I go. So I refrain with my sincerest apologies. I'm trying very hard to give you all the grace and room you need in this matter. I even suggested you got tied up somewhere in your defense for a lack of participation. And you varified that to be the case. so I continue to wait on you.what? do you think i'm an idiot?
I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE WHAT I'M SAYING!
give me more credit than that!
and yes, i got tied up with some stuff with work and things around here i needed to get done.
Would I love to engage your question, but it is only a problem either way I go. So I refrain with my sincerest apologies. I'm trying very hard to give you all the grace and room you need in this matter. I even suggested you got tied up somewhere in your defense for a lack of participation. And you varified that to be the case. so I continue to wait on you.
Swell deal for me.fine.
i have a little more to do today (i have to go to court for running a red light, darn laws), but i'm off tomorrow and we'll continue.
i have been laying groundwork, but we'll get into the meat and potatoes.
OK I assume that you have more you wish to say. Please continue.(continue)
Laws of Inheritance
539 Carry out the laws of the order of inheritance Num. 27:8
BOOK FOURTEEN: THE BOOK OF JUDGES
Laws of Sanhedrin and Punishments
540 Appoint judges Deut. 16:18
541 Not to appoint judges who are not familiar with judicial procedure Deut. 1:17
542 Decide by majority in case of disagreement Ex. 23:2
543 The court must not execute through a majority of one; at least a majority of two is required Ex. 23:2
544 A judge who presented an acquittal plea must not present an
argument for conviction in capital cases Deut. 23:2
545 The courts must carry out the death penalty of stoning Deut. 22:24
546 The courts must carry out the death penalty of burning Lev. 20:14
547 The courts must carry out the death penalty of the sword Ex. 21:20
548 The courts must carry out the death penalty of strangulation Lev. 20:10
549 The courts must hang those stoned for blasphemy or idolatry Deut. 21:22
550 Bury the executed on the day they are killed Deut.21:23
551 Not to delay burial overnight Deut. 21:23
552 The court must not let the sorcerer live Ex. 22:17
553 The court must give lashes to the wrongdoer Ex. 25:2
554 The court must not exceed the prescribed number of lashes Deut. 25:3
555 The court must not kill anybody on circumstantial evidence Ex. 23:7
556 The court must not punish anybody who was forced to do a crime Deut. 22:26
557 A judge must not pity the murderer or assaulter at the trial Deut. 19:13
558 A judge must not have mercy on the poor man at the trial Lev. 19:15
559 A judge must not respect the great man at the trial Lev. 19:15
560 A judge must not decide unjustly the case of the habitual transgressor Ex. 23;6
561 A judge must not pervert justice Lev. 19:15
562 A judge must not pervert a case involving a convert or orphan Deut. 24:17
563 Judge righteously Lev. 19:15
564 The judge must not fear a violent man in judgment Deut. 1:17
565 Judges must not accept bribes Ex. 23:8
566 Judges must not accept testimony unless both parties are present Ex. 23:1
567 Not to curse judges Ex. 22:27
568 Not to curse the head of state or leader of the Sanhedrin Ex. 22:27
569 Not to curse any upstanding Jew Lev. 19:14
Laws of Evidence
570 Anybody who knows evidence must testify in court Lev. 5:1
571 Carefully interrogate the witness Deut. 13:15
572 A witness must not serve as a judge in capital crimes Deut. 19:17
573 Not to accept testimony from a lone witness Deut. 19:15
574 Transgressors must not testify Ex. 23:1
575 Relatives of the litigants must not testify Deut. 24:16
576 Not to testify falsely Ex. 20:13
577 Punish the false witnesses as they tried to punish the defendant Deut. 19:19
Laws of Insurgents
578 Act according to the ruling of the Sanhedrin Deut. 17:11
579 Not to deviate from the word of the Sanhedrin Deut. 17:11
580 Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations Deut. 13:1
581 Not to diminish from the Torah any commandments, in whole or in part Deut. 13:1
582 Not to curse your father and mother Ex. 21:17
583 Not to strike your father and mother Ex. 21:15
584 Respect your father or mother Ex. 20:12
585 Fear your father or mother Lev. 19:3
586 Not to be a rebellious son Deut. 21:18
Laws of Mourning
587 Mourn for relatives Lev. 10:19
588 The High Priest must not defile himself for any relative Lev. 21:11
589 The High Priest must not enter under the same roof as a corpse Lev. 21:11
590 A Kohen must not defile himself for anyone except relatives Lev. 21:1
Laws of Kings and their Wars
591 Appoint a king from Israel Deut. 17:15
592 Not to appoint a convert Deut. 17:15
593 The king must not have too many wives Deut. 17:17
594 The king must not have too many horses Deut. 17:16
595 The king must not have too much silver and gold Deut. 17:17
596 Destroy the seven Canaanite nations Deut. 20:17
597 Not to let any of them remain alive Deut. 20:16
598 Wipe out the descendants of Amalek Deut. 25:19
599 Remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people Deut. 25:17
600 Not to forget Amalek's atrocities and ambush on our journey
from Egypt in the desert Deut. 25:19
601 Not to dwell permanently in Egypt Deut. 17:16
602 Offer peace terms to the inhabitants of a city while holding siege, and treat them according to the Torah if they accept the terms Deut. 20:10
603 Not to offer peace to Ammon and Moab while besieging them Deut. 23:7
604 Not to destroy fruit trees even during the siege Deut. 20:19
605 Prepare latrines outside the camps Deut. 23:13
606 Prepare a shovel for each soldier to dig with Deut. 23:14
607 Appoint a priest to speak with the soldiers during the war Deut. 20:2
608 He who has taken a wife, built a new home, or planted a vineyard is given a year to rejoice with his possessions Deut. 24:5
609 Not to demand from the above any involvement,
communal or military Deut. 24:5
610 Not to panic and retreat during battle Deut. 20:3
611 Keep the laws of the captive woman Deut. 21:11
612 Not to sell her into slavery Deut. 21:14
613 Not to retain her for servitude after having relations with her Deut. 21:14
this is a reference to all the laws with the "ten" highlighted.