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[from scratch]

Originally Posted by JohnRabbit

You got version 2 wrong! But the fact remains that the law exist! Paul even served the law of God. Now how is it that mainstream believers believe that the law (all law) was nailed to the cross and is not to be followed anymore? Obviously Paul was doing the opposite of mainstream believers of today. Something wrong with this picture?
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IT IS FOR UNBELIEVERS. CHRIST IS THE END..END..END..OF THE LAW, FOR THEM THAT BELIEV..BELIEVE..DANG!
LOL!..READ 2 COR 3, THAT WHICH ON STONE, IS SET ASIDE, ABOLISHED, SET ASIDE...

So what are you saying Froggy? Paul wasn't serving a law?

It is amazing that you don't or won't consider the rest of what Paul wrote when you comment on a particular narrative. How can Paul tell us to throw out the law in another place? How can he say things like we are delivered from the law and we're not subject to the law? Are you divorcing Romans 7:25 from the rest of the passage and presentation in Romans?

 

[from scratch]

There it is Frog / Scratch...They both wrote on stone. Would either of you please tell us who wrote what?

For what purpose? The source of both is God. The end result is it doesn't matter. The only way it would matter is if Moses is the source for the rest of the 613 laws found in the Torah/Pentatesuch. If God is the source you have no valid point.

 

[Frogster]

Deuteronomy 27:1-4, 8 ( NKJV ) 1Now Moses, with the elders of Israel, commanded the people, saying: “Keep all the commandments which I command you today. 2And it shall be, on the day when you cross over the Jordan to the land which the Lord your God is giving you, that you shall set up for yourselves large stones, and whitewash them with lime. 3You shall write on them all the words of this law, when you have crossed over, that you may enter the land which the Lord your God is giving you, ‘a land flowing with milk and honey,’ just as the Lord God of your fathers promised you. 4Therefore it shall be, when you have crossed over the Jordan, that on Mount Ebal you shall set up these stones, which I command you today, and you shall whitewash them with lime. ....8And you shall write very plainly on the stones all the words of this law.”

Moses wrote the law on stone.

now, you tell me what Moses wrote and what God wrote.

Dang...this was not even a challenge!

Did your citation indicate any glory?

The 10, from God came with glory, hence the context is quite clear, 2 Cor 3, was about the 10.

Now, why does it say NOT Permanent? And set aside, annulled etc?


7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

 

[Frogster]

Originally Posted by JohnRabbit

You got version 2 wrong! But the fact remains that the law exist! Paul even served the law of God. Now how is it that mainstream believers believe that the law (all law) was nailed to the cross and is not to be followed anymore? Obviously Paul was doing the opposite of mainstream believers of today. Something wrong with this picture?
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IT IS FOR UNBELIEVERS. CHRIST IS THE END..END..END..OF THE LAW, FOR THEM THAT BELIEV..BELIEVE..DANG!
LOL!..READ 2 COR 3, THAT WHICH ON STONE, IS SET ASIDE, ABOLISHED, SET ASIDE...

So what are you saying Froggy? Paul wasn't serving a law?

he said he wasn't..Read gal 4:12, and peter stopped also, he ate pork, read gal 2;14.

 

[JohnRabbit]

Not according to your verse citations. Moses didn't cross the Jordan. What difference does it make if God is the source of both? It sure seems to me that you're implying that Moses is the source for everything outside the 10 commandments. So Whos is the soruce? If it is God as I contend why does the laws outside of the 10 commandments not bear the same weight or validity?

i thought we've been over that.

although God is the source of all law that was given, does it not make any difference to you that God wrote ten of them, and moses wrote the rest?

 

[JohnRabbit]

So then I take it that you agree with my stance. Or is it there is no defense for what you say I don't understand because I do in fact understand?

If you agree to what I said or part of what I said would you identify with a comment on each point, please? Thanks.

i concede.

you understand all.

my position is defenseless coupled with the fact that i'm inarticulate.

i hate i've wasted your time, thanks for the conversation.

God bless!

 

[JohnRabbit]

Dang...this was not even a challenge!

Did your citation indicate any glory?

The 10, from God came with glory, hence the context is quite clear, 2 Cor 3, was about the 10.

Now, why does it say NOT Permanent? And set aside, annulled etc?


7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

i concede.

you understand all.

my position is defenseless coupled with the fact that i'm inarticulate.

i hate i've wasted your time, thanks for the conversation.

God bless!

 

[Frogster]

i concede.

you understand all.

my position is defenseless coupled with the fact that i'm inarticulate.

i hate i've wasted your time, thanks for the conversation.

God bless!

Alrighty John, nice chatting. The glory thing was cool huh?
You know John, my bro, we are all learning, and it was fun, but Moses did not need to cover his face, in your citation, so that shows the difference. Ok..take care...

 

[Frogster]

ps, there was not to much glory in plaster covered stones. It is soft, not like the engraved ones in 2 cor 3.

2 And on the day you cross over the Jordan to the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall set up large stones and plaster them with plaster.

 

[from scratch]

i thought we've been over that.

although God is the source of all law that was given, does it not make any difference to you that God wrote ten of them, and moses wrote the rest?

Would you please explain why it should matter to me? I see no difference as the source is the same. Why should I question how God does things?

 

[from scratch]

i concede.

you understand all.

my position is defenseless coupled with the fact that i'm inarticulate.

i hate i've wasted your time, thanks for the conversation.

God bless!

No you haven't wasted my time. Or the time of anybody who cares to read the whole thread. You accuse yourself not me. You have communicated very well your postiion. Just not well enought to establish it as valid. It simply doesn't take into account all the Scripture and can't be defended from either testament. It is so full of holes you and a host can't plug them. You can't or won't answer my counters either. Rarely did you even engage them in this discussion.

I love the truth! It wins hands down!

 

[angelA18]

Originally posted by matthewm777

Do not separate what cans not be divided ...
To know the Son is to know The Father ...
Repent! And I will of not blot you from the My Book.

that the words I hear every so often and so read it made ​​my hair back of my neck tingled.