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Basics That Every Non-Muslim Should Know About Islam

LivingWordUnity

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Or elect to embrace a double standard violating the Golden Rule.
Do you believe that it's "violating the Golden Rule" when someone criticizes Catholicism? Or do you believe that it's only "violating the Golden Rule" when someone criticizes Islam? Because the only thing that Jihadwatch is guilty of is that they criticize the religion of Islam based on what is taught in that religion. They don't use profanity. They don't shout. They don't do name-calling. A hate group can take out their hostility on someone by projecting their hate such as by falsely accusing a person or group of being hateful when the person or group actually isn't. This is a form of name-calling. Actual hate groups don't need a lot of explaining for showing their hate. For example, the Westboro Baptists can tell you what they think about homosexuals in just three words. So it would be fair and reasonable to describe Westboro Baptists as a hate group since they say that there is someone that they hate. But Jihadwatch is the opposite of this. They are very calm and civilized. They painstakingly study and analyze all the aspects of Islam and back up everything with Islamic sources who say the same thing. And they acknowledge that there are many Muslims who are peaceful which is another thing that is uncharacteristic of a hate group. But anyone who has even the slightest criticism of Islam instantly gets labeled as a bigot or a hate group. I think that the reason why Catholics don't need to resort to calling all of our critics haters is that our faith stands up very well to scrutiny. It stands up so well that our critics often take the easy way and avoid direct criticism of our religion while focusing instead on the bad Catholics who actually weren't living according to the teachings of the Church.
 
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Do you believe that it's "violating the Golden Rule" when someone criticizes Catholicism? Or do you believe that it's only "violating the Golden Rule" when someone criticizes Islam? Because the only thing that Jihadwatch is guilty of is that they criticize the religion of Islam based on what is taught in that religion. They don't use profanity. They don't shout. They don't do name-calling. Hate groups usually don't need a lot of explaining for showing their hate. For example, the Westboro Baptists can tell you what they think about homosexuals in just three words. It would be fair and reasonable to describe Westboro Baptists as a hate group since they say that there is someone that they hate. A hate group can also call someone a bigot when the person actually isn't one. This is another form of name-calling. But Jihadwatch is the opposite of this. They are very civilized, and they painstakingly dissect all the aspects of Islam and back up everything with Islamic sources who say the same thing. And they acknowledge that there are many Muslims who are peaceful which is another thing that is uncharacteristic of a hate group.

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I tried reading Q uran once, it was too offensive.
One example is where it addresses itself to Christians and demands for us to abandon our faith in the Holy Trinity. It is truly a work of the Devil.
 
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No. He's saying you haven't provided any proof of your claim that that's what the SPLC will do. You made the claim. Back it up.
What else would the SPLC mean when they claim that there is a "war on women"? And they speak with contempt whenever they talk about conservatives and the "Christian Right." Do they not consider me to be one of them? And can you tell me why they have the American Family Association on their "hate group" list?
 
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What else would the SPLC mean when they claim that there is a "war on women"? And they speak with contempt whenever they talk about conservatives and the "Christian Right." Do they not consider me to be one of them?

Sources, please.
 
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Sources, please.
Sources for what? That the SPLC has contempt for conservatives and the "Christian Right", that they believe that there's a "war on women," and that they have the American Family Association on their hate list? Is that what you don't believe? If so, it's on the SPLC's website.
 
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You should tell the truth instead of spreading falsehoods. Here's an example. I have more if you need them.

The Blotter | Man sentenced for hate crime attack on West Seattle teen | Seattle Times Newspaper


Thank you for this, and I wouldn't mind seeing your other examples too. As awful as that crime was, it is a relief that others can be charged with hate crimes. I was actually speaking somewhat facetiously and sarcastically, nevertheless I appreciate the correction.
 
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Sources for what? That the SPLC has contempt for conservatives and the "Christian Right", that they believe that there's a "war on women," and that they have the American Family Association on their hate list? Is that what you don't believe? If so, it's on the SPLC's website.

So quote the website, then, and link to it.
 
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So quote the website, then, and link to it.
You still aren't being specific. Out of the following, which do you not believe?

A) That the SPLC has contempt for conservatives and the "Christian Right"

B) That the SPLC believes that there's a "war on women"

C) That the SPLC has the American Family Association on their hate list
 
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You still aren't being specific. Out of the following, which do you not believe?

A) That the SPLC has contempt for conservatives and the "Christian Right"

B) That the SPLC believes that there's a "war on women"

C) That the SPLC has the American Family Association on their hate list

All of those. Also that the SPLC has Catholics on their list for, y'know, being Catholic.

One more attempt from you to stall and I'll know you can't provide that because it doesn't exist and you are, therefore, knowingly spreading falsehoods.

Did you miss my links?

I haven't studied them thoroughly but from what I gather only one of those is from the SPLC and it doesn't say anything about labelling the Catholic church as hate group. It's an article about Conservative Christians disliking the common core, which the SPLC believes is beneficial, and the way conservative media have twisted the argument.

The others are all from conservative media and are irrelevant, as the initial claim was that the SPLC has condemned the Catholic church and all conservative Christians as hate groups.
 
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I haven't studied them thoroughly but from what I gather only one of those is from the SPLC and it doesn't say anything about labelling the Catholic church as hate group. It's an article about Conservative Christians disliking the common core, which the SPLC believes is beneficial, and the way conservative media have twisted the argument.

The others are all from conservative media and are irrelevant, as the initial claim was that the SPLC has condemned the Catholic church and all conservative Christians as hate groups.

I don't think that's what he said.

And since the links all mentioned groups that have been labeled hate-groups by SPLC, they do seem relevant. I don't see how you can dismiss "conservative media" so out of hand, yet continue to view the SPLC as neutral, when they are so obviously left wing. If you won't listen to the conservative side, then don't listen to SPLC either, otherwise it's just all hypocrisy.
 
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I don't think that's what he said.

And since the links all mentioned groups that have been labeled hate-groups by SPLC, they do seem relevant. I don't see how you can dismiss "conservative media" so out of hand, yet continue to view the SPLC as neutral, when they are so obviously left wing. If you won't listen to the conservative side, then don't listen to SPLC either, otherwise it's just all hypocrisy.
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So quote the website, then, and link to it.
You still aren't being specific. Out of the following, which do you not believe?

A) That the SPLC has contempt for conservatives and the "Christian Right"

B) That the SPLC believes that there's a "war on women"

C) That the SPLC has the American Family Association on their hate list
All of those.
I know that you are going to move the goal posts, but here we go. You can look up these on the SPLC website using the title of each article. I'm not going to post links to the left-wing propaganda.

In the SPLC article, "Timeline: The Christian Right and Public School," they equate being on the "Christian Right" and being against the LGBT agenda to racism.

In the SPLC article, 'War on Women,' they blame the recent California shooter incident on a larger supposed "war on women."

And in the SPLC article,"The Anti-Gay Lobby: The Family Research Council, the American Family Association & the Demonization of LGBT People," they talk about how they put the FRC and the AFA on their hate list.

Based on this, I think it's safe to assume that they don't like the Catholic Church either even if She's not officially on their hate list.
 
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