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Balancing Desire and Grace in Relationships/Marriage

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I'm genuinely curious about people who share my life experiences as much as possible. It makes me feel better that I am not alone and hopefully we can connect and bond over those life experiences. For example, I'm 27 years old, but have never had any romantic attention, acceptance, or overall experience. It initially bothered me as a teenager, but not since I've turned 17 or 18. As a guy, I've always been intentional about the woman I pursue, meaning I have to have some form of emotional connection or friendship to actually be attracted to her and ask her out on a date. On the few occasions I've felt something and asked them out (mostly in college and post-college), I've always been rejected - except for the one girl who said yes, but changed her mind shortly after saying yes. And as a devout Christian, I've always felt there was no point in dating or "waking up love" (as Solomon puts it) until marriage is in the picture so I really don't feel all that hurt. So reframing my experiences and rejections that way, helps shift my perspective as me waiting for something or someone that's special in my and God's eyes; it's just a matter of waiting.

Over the past few years, I've become more convicted of my experiences and lifestyle of abstinence/purity/virginity/celibacy/etc to save myself for that special someone. In fact, now, I'm only attracted to women who haven't had any romantic experiences either. I don't watch porn, don't enjoy any crude sexual humor; some may even call me uptight or prudish or boring or devoid of any fun when compared to the status quo. I've also been relieved of the pressure of pursuing someone or seeing them "that" way as I'm not attracted most of the women in my environment because most of them my age would have engaged in romantic experiences no matter how small. No judgement for those who have had a past with romance in general, but I'm not attracted to them at all. I've spent years praying and blaming myself for feeling that way, but I'm just not attracted to them. I pray that God had put that conviction of desire in me. It makes watching movies or TV shows less relatable haha. I understand that my standards are rare and unique, but I don't think they are necessarily high when I'm looking for a wife. I suppose I just want someone special with relatively the same experiences so we can have something unique when we look back at our story. I've heard people say that God can transform anyone to be your special someone to make all of your desires come true as well as the past doesn't dictate who they will be in a partnership. But I feel like they are misinterpreting my desires for judgement/condemnation and think I am dismissing their value as a person and being unrealistic. I have to tell them that my attraction to someone's lack of experience is similar to my attraction of their physical appearance, just a bit deeper. I can't be attracted to everyone, right? I hope that my actions reflect my respect and whole-hearted desire for my future wife, if and when she gets to know me. Can anyone else resonate with my life experiences and personal convictions on dating for marriage? What are your thoughts?
 
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This thread has been moved from The Junk Drawer to Singles (Only*). In this case, the move is more thoughtful: since you are looking for those who share your experience, I think I should move it where people who share your experience are, that way you all can talk. Thanks!
 
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I have to tell them that my attraction to someone's lack of experience is similar to my attraction of their physical appearance, just a bit deeper. I can't be attracted to everyone, right? I hope that my actions reflect my respect and whole-hearted desire for my future wife, if and when she gets to know me. Can anyone else resonate with my life experiences and personal convictions on dating for marriage? What are your thoughts?

Women who never experienced intimacy nor romantic relationship with anyone isn't hard to find even at your age.

Unless you're also looking for such woman who also looks like a fashion model which will make the odds next to impossible.
 
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Women who never experienced intimacy nor romantic relationship with anyone isn't hard to find even at your age.

Unless you're also looking for such woman who also looks like a fashion model which will make the odds next to impossible.
You think so? I've tried looking for them at church, but could never find one. I pursued one girl at church (after crushing on her for like 2 years and she was a good family friend growing up) who was everything I desired, but she wasn't interested in me either. Idk. It's hard to ask people that without it being overbearing or insensitive, let alone gauge their interest for something more. I don't know where to look, but also it's hard to trust people at their word. I'm just tired bro.
 
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You think so? I've tried looking for them at church, but could never find one. I pursued one girl at church (after crushing on her for like 2 years and she was a good family friend growing up) who was everything I desired, but she wasn't interested in me either. Idk. It's hard to ask people that without it being overbearing or insensitive, let alone gauge their interest for something more. I don't know where to look, but also it's hard to trust people at their word. I'm just tired bro.
I just know that women who never had relationships exist among past friends and relatives. That's why I told you they're not rare and more common that you think. They're also more common in some cultures like Asian cultures because they often prioritize career over relationships (although it might be a bad thing and can be interpreted as a form of worldliness or materialism).

But I never asked that question to any woman because I don't require a woman to be a "relationship virgin" or a literal virgin.

So I have no idea how to break that question to a woman who isn't a close friend.
 
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I just know that women who never had relationships exist among past friends and relatives. That's why I told you they're not rare and more common that you think. They're also more common in some cultures like Asian cultures because they often prioritize career over relationships (although it might be a bad thing and can be interpreted as a form of worldliness or materialism).

But I never asked that question to any woman because I don't require a woman to be a "relationship virgin" or a literal virgin.

So I have no idea how to break that question to a woman who isn't a close friend.
I know, that's the struggle my friend. Especially when you want something quite unique. But I have faith in God to lead me to the right person or situation.
 
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A lot of us here in this neck of the woods haven’t really had much 'luck' w/ finding someone like that.


You are doing it right. You have the right attitudes & beliefs of someone who wants to please the Lord. Don’t change those just to get married.


I agree, dating just to date seems silly, & not something God’s people should be doing. We date to marry.
I find sexual humor / romantic jokes difficult due to lack of someone (and a lot of them are something God’s people shouldn’t be partaking in either)
Be careful of crossing off someone w/ ‘experience’ who’s earnestly repented. We are new creations in Christ. Jesus revealed himself to a woman who had had 5 husbands. (Tho for us who haven’t really dated, I think a lot of us would be more compatible w/ someone who’s in the same boat as us).
I agree all the romance in movies & TV shows make it hard to watch for us struggling singles, one of the reasons I don’t watch a lot of that stuff
Yes, if you are to be married to someone, you will desire her & she will desire you, otherwise you wouldn't get married!
 
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A lot of us here in this neck of the woods haven’t really had much 'luck' w/ finding someone like that.


You are doing it right. You have the right attitudes & beliefs of someone who wants to please the Lord. Don’t change those just to get married.


I agree, dating just to date seems silly, & not something God’s people should be doing. We date to marry.
I find sexual humor / romantic jokes difficult due to lack of someone (and a lot of them are something God’s people shouldn’t be partaking in either)
Be careful of crossing off someone w/ ‘experience’ who’s earnestly repented. We are new creations in Christ. Jesus revealed himself to a woman who had had 5 husbands. (Tho for us who haven’t really dated, I think a lot of us would be more compatible w/ someone who’s in the same boat as us).
I agree all the romance in movies & TV shows make it hard to watch for us struggling singles, one of the reasons I don’t watch a lot of that stuff
Yes, if you are to be married to someone, you will desire her & she will desire you, otherwise you wouldn't get married!
Thanks for further clarifying my preference for people no dating history as a matter of compatibility not judgement. The wise thing to do if all other variables are even between two women is to pursue the one with no dating history, purely for compatibility. Fingers crossed I find the right one. Where is your "neck of the woods"?
 
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Thanks for further clarifying my preference for people no dating history as a matter of compatibility not judgement. The wise thing to do if all other variables are even between two women is to pursue the one with no dating history, purely for compatibility. Fingers crossed I find the right one. Where is your "neck of the woods"?
I don’t think it’s wrong for someone w/ little dating experience to desire someone likewise. B/c I think otherwise it could lead to compatibility issues. But I think it’s wise to be open to someone who’s not b/c the Lord brings 2 different people together.

Yes, it appears to be a numbers game b/c & a lot of people, particularly men, desire someone with little dating experience even if they have a lot, but the Lord’s specialty is the impossible.

My neck of the woods is the Singles Section! A lot of us here struggle w dating, but a lot of us are quite content being single too.
 
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