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Originally posted by psalms 22.3
im not sure what the HEBREW OR GREEK TRANSLATION OF THE WORD IS EXACTLY. dont really care to look it up right now.
people have used the term BACKSLIDING for many diffrent things, and i think thats reasonable.
backsliding= sliding away from god, yall agree?
the term may only be used in the old testament, for the isrealites (i dont really know if it is or not, but im thinking thats what aforchrist33 is saying)
but that doesnt mean that meaning of the word is applicable to new testiment believers.
i will never believe once saved always saved, i never have and i truely dont see the slightest bit of scripture to even hint that at that!
the holyspirit SEALING you unto the day of redemption simply means he TESTIFIES for you.
THE FACT THAT HE IS IN YOUR LIFE, MAKES YOU SAVED. thats what that means.
IT DOES NOT MEAN HE SETS YOUR SALVATION IN STONE AND YOU CANT TURN AWAY, and your just heavon bound. the isrealites had the ability to vex the holyspirit, so do we. disobeying him (AS EVERYONE CAN DO, SAVED OR UNSAVED) hurts him and pushes him away, and can push him out of your life forever if you choose it.
adam had the ability to turn away, the isrealites had the ability to turn away, angles have the ability to turn away.
there will never be a people who cannot turn away.
sin again, and your in danger again. dwell in sin long enough and you certainly can give up the gift that you had once received.
sin is not forgiven before it is commited, the sacrifice was provided and it is ready before you sin, but your future sins are not covered now. if that was so, then all on earth would have been saved when jesus died.
hebrews 10.25-30
is far to clear in stating that YOU CAN RETURN FROM SALVATION TO A PLACE OF FEARING HELL, BECAUSE YOUR FORSAKEN JESUS, AND YOU DID THIS EVEN DESPITE GRACE THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO RETURN.
i am totally dumbfounded at how someone who wasnt brought up under the teaching of ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, and is well read, would ever believe that salvation isnt able to be lost.