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I just fear a sin that cannot be forgiven. Do you think the unpardonable sin is directly literal? If you insult the Holy Spirit you go to hell no recovery?

Yes, but that's not talking about us. The people who blaspheme the Holy Spirit are not even believers to begin with. If we were like them we wouldn't even be here talking about it right now.

I think that I know what you're talking about, I used to be concerned about this too. This is a bigger issue than the mark of the beast. I recommend this 10 part series by John MacArthur, start with: "The Doctrine of Election part 1". As John belts out his sermon, have a note pad ready and write down each verse he mentions and go back latter and read them for yourself. 5 point Calvinism is controversial and not that easy for everyone to understand but when you do it will give you a priceless sense of confidence that you'll wonder how you ever lived without. It really seems to be the thing that Jesus was talking about when He said:

"I give them eternal life, and they will never perish,
and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all,
and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
I and the Father are one.”

http://www.gty.org/resources/sermon-series/280

John MacArthur

The Doctrine of Election, Part 1
As you know, a couple of weeks ago, we completed our study in the wonderful epistle written by Jude, which ended with a promise that God is able to keep us from falling and to present us faultless before his presence with glory. And because that introduced to us the wonderful doctrine of eternal security, or better stated, the perseverance of the saints, or the preservation of the saints, we spent a few weeks talking about that doctrine. And in the discussions that I had with you regarding that, I said that the end is determined by the beginning. Our salvation is secure to the end because our salvation was predestined in the very beginning to be completed.

And we remember that Romans 8 makes a monumental and very clear statement to that regard. when in Romans 8 the apostle Paul writes, “For whom he foreknew, he predestined to become conformed to the image of his Son.” That is, all whom God predestined will become conformed to the image of his Son in eternal glory. And thus “whom he predestined he called, and whom he called he justified, and whom he justified these he also glorified.” And so, we said that the great undergirding foundational truth that secures our future is God’s decree in eternity past.

It is the fact that we are chosen for final salvation that makes our salvation secure.


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I just fear a sin that cannot be forgiven. Do you think the unpardonable sin is directly literal? If you insult the Holy Spirit you go to hell no recovery?


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This me super paranoid. Is it physical? Is it not? If the devil tricks me, even if it's only for a second to think evilly, am I doomed? How can I be sure I don't have the mark?

Revelation 13:7

And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark — the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Did the second beast require you to take the mark? Are you able to buy or sell? Your answer to those questions will tell you if you have the mark or not.
 
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This me super paranoid. Is it physical? Is it not? If the devil tricks me, even if it's only for a second to think evilly, am I doomed? How can I be sure I don't have the mark?

Prayer.
 
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I strongly urge you to not fear the mark of the beast, but just to focus on a sincere faith in our Lord. The devil cannot break through genuine piety. Fear on the other hand is what the devil desires.
 
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Remember "THEY"( EVERYBODY)
WILL NOT call it the mark of the beast, nor will THEY say it is evil.
THEY will accept it as easily and readily as they accepted the social security system, ssi, ssdi, retirement funds, and so on.
So THEY (ie. the public) will call anyone who resists it 'insane' or worse.
mimark.co.nz
 
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And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark — the name of the beast or the number of its name.
Obviously, from Revelation 12 and other prophesies; ALL people, only refers to all the ungodly people, not to we Christians, who won't be members of the Anti-Christ's One World Govt.
 
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Obviously, from Revelation 12 and other prophesies; ALL people, only refers to all the ungodly people, not to we Christians, who won't be members of the Anti-Christ's One World Govt.

Indeed, but we have to remember that he who endures to the end will be saved. There are some who won't endure to the end. The foolish virgins whose lamps were not filled with oil.
 
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This me super paranoid. Is it physical? Is it not? If the devil tricks me, even if it's only for a second to think evilly, am I doomed? How can I be sure I don't have the mark?
Worry not.

We have two choices. Worry or prayer.

The Holy Spirit will not allow one of the Good Shepherd's sheep to be bamboozled into a mark of Satan.

So my advice is to not worry. Do what Christ and His apostles commanded. Trust Christ in all we do, be watchful for His return, and love one another as Christ loved us. Live holy lives for His Glory.

Do the above and you will do well.

The mark is for servants of sin and Satan. You as a Christian have a much higher calling. Pray each day you will serve Christ well for His Glory.

Peace!
 
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This me super paranoid. Is it physical? Is it not? If the devil tricks me, even if it's only for a second to think evilly, am I doomed? How can I be sure I don't have the mark?
The "mark of the beast" will be a physical mark, like a tattoo, on the forehead or lower arm. It will be obvious.
To get one you will have to swear allegiance to the antichrist. It is not something you can do or get by accident or ignorance.
 
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Unfortunately, Winken, you promote exactly the kind of danger I was alluding to in my earlier post.


I guess I mistook your post, and I thought you were being serious. I guess that happens a lot when you are a drive-by poster like me, and don't really know all the personalities.
 
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Read your bible. It says all will be given the mark of the beast in Revelation 13:16,
"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,"
but before that in verse 15 it says
"The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image would also speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed"

so taking the word of the bible, we will all be dead if we refused to worship the image of the beast, which as Christians we should, before the mark is given anyway. Nothing to worry about except being in heaven.

P.S. I've just signed up and this is my first comment, hope you like it.
 
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P.S. I've just signed up and this is my first comment, hope you like it.

Not a bad 1st post, and welcome to the 'zoo'. (You will come across all sorts of strange and unusual critters around here.)

Anyway, in your post you are making some assumptions, namely that the beasts will get to complete their desire, over the whole earth and over each and every person. This may be their intent, but there are other passages which say they will not fully realize this goal. The latter part of Rev. 12 describes the escape of the woman, and in Matthew 24:21 & 22 Jesus says that unless those days of persecution were shortened, that no flesh would be saved, but for the sake of the elect He will shorten (bring to a close) those days of persecution. So consider the possibility that the beasts never get to complete those things they intended to do. Jesus kind of steps in and saves the Day.
 
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Thanks DingDing.

I could quite easily get into a discussion about this possibly being a post rapture event, so we will not be here when the mark of the beast is forced onto people.

I think the point is that many, like myself, do understand scripture to be saying that we, the church, will be here to see and experience this.
 
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I am saddened by the confused and unbiblical guesswork replies from some here.

I can agree with this statement.

Having a proper understanding of what God has planned for His people in the end times of this age, means we should not fear the future.
As Revelation 12:6-17 says, we Christians will be here when Satan is cast down from heaven, but those faithful ones are taken to a place of safety and the rest will also keep out of his way. I do not see anywhere that Christians will be forced to take the mark of the beast.

Well, I don't see that anyone is 'forced' to take the mark, but what I do see is that a choice will be forced - "take the mark or else...". And many Christians will have this choice forced upon them. That is when they will have to make the decision of a life-time, and I fear the church as a whole is not being prepared for what is coming. There are too many false teachers - very popular teachers - who are preaching easy believism and certain escapism.
 
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