Autism Info

[NicoleB76]

Glad I'm not the only one who was loston this post! I was beginning to think I was totally missing something.

 

[HazelAngel]

Its glad to c that u r not the only one lost in this post, I find myself lost on it as well NicoleB76. Bout what exactly does this post mean 2scoops, I dont really have a clue, can u plz explain the post to me and 2scoops as well as ppl who often frequently visit this thread e.g me yeushaslavejeff?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I can't tell quickly what post you're wondering about.
The one seeking socalled 'green' vaccines ??
...
If that's the one, don't fall for it - all of the manmade synthetics are toxic in the human body and should be avoided.

The human body reacts against all of the manmade shots just as if it was a poison, which, of course, they all are.

Prior to 1950+/- a few years,
and as early as 1910,
the investigators knew how to create any illness in the human body
as well as in dogs and cats and cows and horses
BY DIET;
and, subsequently
they also knew (by 1910) how to reverse almost any disease
BY DIET !!!!
The doctors who continues to use DIET to cure their patients are breaking the law,
and if the dunglords or the FDA finds out about it they SHUT THEM DOWN!

You can still legally treat yourself(in the usa) for any disease (and do a better job than most doctors) as long as you are over 18 years old or otherwise of legal age of consent.


IF YOU CAN READ, THEN DO SO ! GO TO CUREZONE and to SHIRLEYSWELLNESSCAFE
for starters
and KEEP ON READING AND READING AND READING -

WHAT YOU FIND will take your breath away!!!!!!!!! (the corruption of society is so complete, including gov and bus and med and edu)

FIND out what you can WHILE you still can, and get a doctor who is trained in many areas including the nutrional healing
to help you gain your health back with professional help...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If you can avoid the problems that *cause* Autistic spectrum "conditions" then that is a legitimate venture.

Itt was suggested that my AS was caused by a genetic weakness that meant as a baby my body could not remove a heavy metal preservative used in child vaccines thus causing a toxic buildup of the substance altering my brain. This had only been stopped since early 2000 (here in NZ, dunno about ROW)so its a wait and see whether it affects the wider AS rate.

But of course I agree with Apocryha on this one, any talk of "curing" those with autistic conditions is ridiculous. AS is part of who I am today, and no amount of treatment can change that in a hurry......

Isn't that sort of like saying "LOOK at this RASH on my body, don't tell me the RASH is caused by something - the RASH IS PART OF ME - PART OF WHO I AM."
When the RASH is (for this case) caused by chlorine exposure in the bath/tap water.....
And the RASH goes away when the poison is removed....
...
100% of the people TESTED showed LOW LEVELS of MERC in their HAIR, and High Levels in their BRAIN.
(that's the people diagnosed with A. )

100% of the people TESTED showed HIGH LEVEL of MERC in their HAIR and LOW LEVELS in their BRAIN.
(that's the people that were 'normal' , i.e. not diagnosed with A. )
..

so, duh, if a poison is present , whataya gonna do ????

Don't GUESS, GET TESTED, GET TESTED....GET TESTED....
..
JUST LIKE IF YOUR HOUSE showed signs of mold - TEST IT.
so
IF YOUR body/mind shows signs of possible toxic buildup, TEST IT.
..
ONCE it is TESTED, It is easy and not expensive and not dangerous to remove the poison. It takes up to 6 months , rarely a year, sometimes just 3 DAYS to see results (as in the first known CURE of AUTISTIC CHild broadcast on CHANNEL 11 OETA years ago)...

TEST TEST TEST (NOT INTRUSIVE, just get a HAIR TEST if you want. OR a urine/saliva TEST by RBTI.

For a very small cost, and tremendous results so far, GET TESTED !

 

[HazelAngel]

No yeushaslavejeff, I was meaning this post

no, when a cure was found for cancxr, the drglrds and gov buried it. When a cure was found for szfna and buy pole or, the drglrds and gov buried it. When a cure was found for l. u. kmea, you guessed it, the drglrds and gov BURIED IT !!! They attack any officials who go public with the proven cures. For a little while, you can teach URself from the internet and books and a few courageous health givers, but in a little while, you will not be able to without great expense and effort. One very popular book discloses for a very small cost what dxtxrs have proven to work for 126 different ailments that are supposedly not able to be helped....... just goooooogle to find out what honest dxtxrs know already..... and of course go find an honest dxtxr as you are able in case you need one. I used to play "20 questions" and let someone guess, or try to, a problem without a solution, (healthwise, of course) and most gave up after 3 or 4 tries.... have fun guesssing !!!

One quick question ... what has this got to do with the green vaccine yeushaslavejeff??

 

[2scoops]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/john-mccain-ent.html

 

[HazelAngel]

soz bout the post saying what exactly does this post mean 2scoops, when I said that 2scoops I was meaning yeushaslavejeff k

HazelAngel

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No yeushaslavejeff, I was meaning this post



One quick question ... what has this got to do with the green vaccine yeushaslavejeff??

what is the socalled "green vaccine" ?

 

[HazelAngel]

I dont know, u said it in the post

HazelAngel

 

[HazelAngel]

oh, and 2scoops bout the toxocology report from a toxocologist removing mecury from a persons brain, thats really good news for ppl with AS or autism and I guess it would help ppl get rid of AS or autism if they really want to get rid of it

HazelAngel

 

[HazelAngel]

2scoops I am just showin this to u, nothin bout AS or autism, but I thought it would be polite I was asked to write about a topic so I chose Christian Forums, I thought u might like to read it, the other friends r goin to read this as well ok, so here it goes

Christian Forums
This is my article for Christian Forums I think Christian Forums is a excellent place to be and I would definatly reccomend this website to anyone who is looking for a very friendly place with Christians and they r a christian. I have become a big fan of this website and any of my friends who r Christian I would definatly reccomend them to this website if I go to Fever Club and I see a good friend of mine. This is the first messageboard I have ever been to, I must admit I did have expectations, very small ones but Christian Forums has by far exceeded them and beyond. People here are nice and friendly and I am happy to b a CFangel here. Thanks to Supermama I wouldnt have found Christian Forums and I thank her for introducing me here. I am very fond of writing and animals and I am proud to accept a invite to become a CFwriter. I have made a whole lot of friends here e.g Snoochface, 2scoops, zfawnz, Dean Anderson, hollypparker and the list goes on and on but those r the few whom I have decided to mention in this article bout Christian Forums. I look forward to spending time here on Christian Forums with all my friends and all my friends r one of a kind, they r awesome and they r all very nice. Thanks to CFfosterangel34, Gwenyfur and of course the head leader of this newspaper Kirsten.New Creation for giving me a chance at doing whats best, helping people at all times by working very hard and may I just add, I like helping people do what they want and helping people if they have problems about anything.

Hope u like it.

HazelAngel

 

[HazelAngel]

2scoops how is this development with the thing to Autism and Mercury goin? I was just wonderin ok because I am really interested in it ok

 

[2scoops]

Thanks for your kind words. Thry are making some developements here, I just saw something on the news and the doc said they should not rule out thimerosal (mercury preservative) as a cause for the autism spectrum. There is also some works on being able to excrete the body of this stuff and will let you know as soon as I hear more. Probably do it through a PM.

God bless

 

[HazelAngel]

thanks 2scoops or u could probably do it through the visitor messages

 

[2scoops]

A No-Brainer: Obey the M.D. With the Needle or
My Conscience?

by Barbara Loe Fisher

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I know and respect a number of enlightened medical
doctors
working with Moms and Dads as equal partners in
making health care decisions for children, which may
include making informed vaccination choices that do
not necessarily conform with government policy. I also
admire responsible, insightful journalists who do their
homework and write astute and balanced articles
about vaccine safety and informed consent to
vaccination. However, these tend to be the exception
and not the rule.



As the vaccination debate becomes more
contentious and the divide continues to widen
between those who worship at the alter of medical
science and those who prefer to kneel at a different
kind of alter, caught in the middle are ordinary Americans being forced to choose ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69Npf5D9Xsur-VznacflVJFUBexYAWJ3zB8JexbosGbIHPK4oyeRS45NNHXUPTLlyXBqHiRmB4D-TN7-HkaMzKLaxqKKvBfFTrchxQI8b1STWG3N8MQKUqPLSEWEmvQWVSs9AxyxiufiL1X8beRNlV6jSFM-Lu90WoCYZX0DYAfff5xzIlCBWCAAZdUgGP8ScvAAm4w3vzhmc59g ==)
between obeying their conscience and obeying a
medical doctor wielding a needle. Some journalists
are desperate to be part of the intellectual elite calling
the shots (no pun intended) and go to great lengths to
characterize those, who place spiritual faith and
conscientious beliefs above the doctor's orders, as
ignorant. The desire to discredit people refusing to
have blind faith in the opinion of a medical school
graduate is most intense when it comes to the issue
of vaccination ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69Npfq5jmbQajUKmgMb6RMuPqBGI8mAK5qmge8mAp7YB8zTBm74bXq0mptmZg9naLrkzVUri9ASrCEV79cudtn6WbKqrsAJoL1EKgzdgi30JFpwxhSFAZw6eZBAYLH4iujh9RX_BEYUZdX3UbfgExbG0dtchGl543KrUFh4PC0yt8TNqG8fsQFyZPl).



During the past 26 years that I have studied and
written about vaccination and the informed consent
principle, I have been fascinated by the lack of
knowledge that doctors giving orders and some
journalists, who dutifully assist them in persuading
others to follow orders, possess about the subject.
Lacking knowledge, they often prefer to canonize
medical doctors promoting use of multiple vaccines
( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpcmV5zgCTEoWJePQ4SxLW8pQ0mPXn3iOtisXJh_s1SkuBCZUDmPTtkFw8DAlQQDeiGoqBBG4bNT8mepspgUA1Lo5JodEg5xP71OmSLH7-FBj9tR-O5sT8Z0j82mFGBLUgTNnxIEwvn5oJA1jqY_AWUcldJr2TxWIhCxqWgrIXdwZzCIx3BGKpOmpeqBMe-uk6Wnl6_EF9R0kFv4B1SnVo6caenK7BuH1k8BI6MSIWYpMBTzW0X1J6U_J7oe9SRBcvZ-y3kQQKh2Z9PfRKl0HRqGdd9_hzVSstx68upDDFEvJQ== )in early childhood and try to marginalize those
who do not believe in non-evidence based
pronouncements that "Vaccines are safe and effective
and the benefits always outweigh the risks."



Despite the attempt by medical doctors heading
up federal and state health agencies to persuade
people that vaccination is, in fact, the new "sacrament"
(brilliantly labeled by that medical heretic, the late
great Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.), vaccination is a
medical intervention performed on a healthy person
that has the inherent ability to result in the injury or death of that
healthy person ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpcEXb1J0B2_2QvInJ22tYEkpE4nlyNO2lLQyz1yoM8qiYtM4VCR6FQZNM16yhIzcw5BYWkYOWEUjs3BtXiM-yqePItTYndNiaGQCDF4Ik2IbA ==).




There are hard facts to consider when making
a vaccine decision:



1) There can be no guarantee that the
deliberate introduction of killed or live microorganisms
into the body of a healthy person will not
compromise the health or cause the death ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69Npfr6pqz-JZf9OOU32bCOBJpz0u5KjMzaG17ZxKfeHzUiKdKrK1KL-mQmOcsF2j48lOcEPjkzp_RgJ_V-Ex17_zVPzTt-lkkMQ1kz6otu-SdQn5XIiUH13wAKqH5uSAKlvE=) of
that person either immediately or in the future;



2) There are very few biological predictors that
have been identified by medical science to give
advance warning that injury or death may occur from
vaccination;


3) There is no guarantee that a vaccine will,
indeed, protect a person from contracting or
transmitting an infectious disease; and


4) There is an absence of adequate scientific
knowledge about the way vaccines singly or in
combination act in the human body at the cellular and
molecular level, including whether certain genes
predispose some individuals to a greater risk than
others for suffering vaccine injury or death.


Therefore, vaccination is a medical procedure
that could reasonably be termed experimental each
time it is performed on an individual, whether that
individual is healthy or has an undiagnosed health
condition or genetic predisposition that could raise the
risk for being harmed by vaccination.


Further, the Food and Drug Administration
(FDA), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and drug
companies marketing vaccines openly state that the
number of human subjects used in pre-licensing
studies are too small to detect all vaccine side effects.
So mass use of a new vaccine after the federal
government licenses it and recommends it is a de
facto uncontrolled scientific experiment. In this regard,
the ethical principle of informed consent attains even
greater moral, medical and legal significance.


Although doctors take offence when their
opinions are challenged, they
REALLY
get mad ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpdCYZUu9JVJwjeFp8PoOy_lvNmMslq6k3UtDKKwLUN6gSDQbsqbUB69P4v1428pkuOp1xleGoIrAi7xdmHoKx5F1Ss7hWQoiKv7X6p6Sqs5BmF3CZoPqLKhEJ5pNNUUPgOGcY-ghEWrW5bN9HS00VoGWaL8e5brRzk_5PWJ_vOBaOEnH1Yj_g41TnmI4FJHEHo5Zppe__ameDB6AJrTgJtOC_1xa6MkzBKH3dXKiRkaiA== ) when an
ordinary Mom questions the value of injecting
vaccines into her child 48 times in the first six years of
life (now, with the CDC's addition an annual influenza
shot and more vaccinations to the adolescent vaccine
schedule, it is 69 doses of 16 vaccines by age 18).
The arrogant, patronizing response by those doctors,
who are intent on mindlessly implementing
government policy before taking into consideration the
potential risks of vaccination for the 1 in 6 highly
vaccinated child in America already suffering with
immune or brain dysfunction, is to throw the mother
and child out of the office.


It can be especially infuriating for the medical
school graduate practicing pediatrics to be confronted
by a Mom (or Dad) who knows more about the toxic
components, potential high risk factors and life
altering side effects of vaccines than they are getting
paid by parents to know. But that outrage does not
compare to the outrage of mothers and fathers being
told by legislators doing the
bidding of Big Pharma ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpdoW-z6BEJfaBWcFfjNUftw57mWjoKzvT6rjQUu2BNB9cRwumH__0OFHfQTPv-0dZ_U4XdbtElqpnky-ym82i4G7CW204bDjkO3DadtCrlXD5hKeNGnQRtx1CPy7r9jiupHQVqC5ZhXvYPbTAW4bZybolCBetUL_FSN0e1PsQdFKXT1MSUQVy9G)that an elitist group of
CDC-appointed M.D.'s and Ph.D's holding a few
meetings in Atlanta should be given the power to
make state laws forcing children to get every new
vaccine that the pharmaceutical industry creates and
sells.


And this is where faith and reason comes in:
the reconciliation of faith and reason that leads to a
conviction which may be guided by prayer but is
confirmed by conscience.


The club that medical doctors use to keep the
people ignorant and bound to them by a golden chain
from birth is fear: fear of microbes; fear of infection;
fear of nature. Like primitives drawing menacing
creatures on the walls of caves to ward off evil spirits,
the men and women with M.D. written after their
names get out their needles and poke them into
babies to ward off the evil microbes they believe are
out to get us. Giving themselves different names -
vaccinologists, pediatricians, infectious disease
specialists, public health officials - they are convinced
they must fight a war with microbes and believe the
only way to save humanity is to force everyone to get
injected with more and more of those lab-altered
microbes over and over and over again.


Then they tell us we must have faith that every
time something bad happens after vaccination, it is
only a "coincidence."


Let's see. Shall I consult the Merck Manual or
the intelligence God gave me? Shall I obey the
medical school graduate or my conscience?


For me and a lot of parents who have watched
our once healthy children suffer life-altering vaccine
reactions, it is no-brainer. I will stand up for the human
right to use the intellect, heart and soul God gave me,
pray for guidance, and obey my conscience when it
comes to using a pharmaceutical product that could
kill or injure me or my children. No government official
or medical doctor has the moral authority to take my
life or the life of my children to prop up a one-size-fits-
all government policy that does not acknowledge
biodiversity within the human species or respect
individual human life.

 

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"Two weeks ago, a Northern Virginia-based
group
called the National Vaccine Information Center
launched a campaign calling for "broad exemptions
for medical, religious and conscientious belief
reasons." According to Barbara Loe Fisher, the
group's co-founder, "forcing vaccination is a violation
of human rights.".....Fisher said her older son had a
bad reaction to a childhood vaccine, and "I was very
afraid that I would have another child this would
happen to," though her pediatrician recommended the
girl be immunized. "I prayed about whether God
wanted me to do what this physician wanted me to
do," she recalled. After a three-hour meeting, she
said, her Lutheran pastor signed a statement in
support of her exemption. "He said he didn't have to
agree with me but that I had a sincere religious belief."
School officials accepted it, she said. Although she is
aware that some parents might manufacture religious
objections, Fisher said she doesn't recommend it. "If
you are going to take a religious exemption, you have
to have a sincere belief and be true to the spirit and
intent of religious exemption," she said. Maryland
officials say they are watching immunization trends.
Ed Hirshhorn, chief of the state's Vaccines for
Children program, said that although he thinks the
religious exemption requirement is "too easy," officials
are reluctant to seek stronger requirements in the
absence of an outbreak of disease or dramatic
increase in parental refusal. "You're always opening
Pandora's box," he said." - Sandra Boodman,
Washington Post (June 10, 2008)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2008/06/06/AR2008060603770_pf.
html ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69Npf5D9Xsur-VznacflVJFUBexYAWJ3zB8JexbosGbIHPK4oyeRS45NNHXUPTLlyXBqHiRmB4D-TN7-HkaMzKLaxqKKvBfFTrchxQI8b1STWG3N8MQKUqPLSEWEmvQWVSs9AxyxiufiL1X8beRNlV6jSFM-Lu90WoCYZX0DYAfff5xzIlCBWCAAZdUgGP8ScvAAm4w3vzhmc59g ==)



"It wasn't the boy I had a problem with. It
was
his mother. We had met a few months earlier, when I
gave her 14-year-old son a diagnosis of mild asthma.
I didn't mind her tough questions, but her tone of voice
put me on edge. She seemed suspicious, almost
angry. Still, in the end I decided she was just a smart,
assertive parent, and I let it go..... This time, she was
more confrontational. She complained she had
been "forced" to bring in her son for a physical
because his school needed a doctor's clearance
before he could play sports.... bit my tongue and tried
to tell her why I thought they belonged here. Yes, he
was probably very healthy. But an annual checkup
could help him learn to take charge of his own health
as he grew up, and it would give me a chance to
encourage healthy choices and to get a good sense of
his emotional health during these challenging years.
Finally, I pointed out, he was due for a tetanus
booster....She was unimpressed. "I don't believe in
preventive care," she said. "I'll treat him for tetanus if
he needs it." The rest of the visit went more smoothly,
mainly because Mom left the room so I could examine
her son.....I thought about our conversation on the
tetanus booster, when the mother said she didn't
believe in preventive care. I'm a pediatrician -
prevention is in my DNA. If I accepted her view, I'd be
compromising my conscience and my professional
ethics. I couldn't do that. I wrote a letter addressed to
my patient's mother and sent by certified mail. I kept it
brief: "Sometimes, a patient or family and doctor aren't
compatible. ... Therefore, I will be dismissing you from
my practice." - Rahul K. Parikh, M.D., New York
Times
(June 10, 2008)

http://www.nytimes.com/20
08/06/10/health/views/10case.html?
partner=rssnyt&emc=rss ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpeGfFI3xLvKDyMZNfDOO[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]O-H67z4rUJrNTdAwew8XYNPIhyitBKMjumU84Fn2Hsl1PrucVLs3Pv0TzWfyvyNGx7jjWnTMeJXyU-Y_fEeH5AMekCpy7OaVjKya4fZ80STGIO5clNNCQD5j2waXY5uZ-hWkfHrhJI02Y-d6SnwjLyOQGaHltsDMMYB3P3XUMYNzo_iH3_mAQ== )



"I have four children and never vaccinated
any of
them," East Stroudsburg resident Susan Spannagel
said. "I come from a holistic family. My father was a
chiropractor and my family always had a natural
approach to health." Parents have a choice regarding
vaccinations and many are now speaking up on the
subject. By the age of 6, most children have been
injected with the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention's recommendation of 48 doses of 14
different vaccines, not including optional
immunizations. With that number of shots, parents are
taking a critical-thinking approach to vaccinations and
making themselves aware of the pros and the
cons.....The National Vaccination Information Center is
another organization dedicated to vaccination issues.
The nonprofit was founded in 1982 by Jeff Schwartz,
Barbara Loe Fisher and Kathi William who are
parents of vaccine-injured children. "We are parents
whose kids were injured in the early '80s by the DTP
vaccine. My son was injured at 2½ years old and was
left with ADD and multiple learning disabilities," co-
founder and president of NVIC Barbara Loe Fisher
said. "We aren't necessarily anti-vaccination but are
instead pro-education," Fisher said. Although Fisher
said she feels that we have come a long way in public
awareness, there is room for improvement. "My son
had the vaccination and changed from a happy, high-
functioning child to a sick child that regressed and no
longer knew his alphabet or numbers. He became
frustrated easily and was emotionally fragile. He
stopped just short of autism," Fisher said. "I watch this
now and it is happening in greater frequency. There is
enough evidence now that vaccines can cause death
or injuries." Holistic Family Healthcare in
Hackettstown, N.J., is one of a few facilities in the
region that provides natural medicine. "I am a primary
care provider that allows my patients to not vaccinate. I
do not offer vaccinations in my office," said Elaine
Hardy, a family nurse practitioner and owner of the
facility. "I think it needs to be a parent's choice, an
informed choice. I am not against vaccinations at all. I
am into doing it in a safe and controlled manner
though." - Melanie Van Derveer, Pocono
Record ( June 2, 2008)


http://www.pocon
orecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20080602/NEWS/806020315 ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69NpfjMtaaIi-LyfQnP1iSknuP1A2RCVz6xLLRipo-KiUc49JNQ-64woAiJ_scJxXSxGSCTY_MavLBCVbdSgIoZOfMCe2SMCyyxJ3hM53U2VfI9jVJ5ATGapZyFa2s_d4hwPsMMStWkysQXr-QPt3smZtMEqG66k3nEExSSv1duyR4e65QDZ4Rc2q4NZoTxWt5y2A= )

 

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Faith Lets Some Kids Skip Shots

The Washington Post

June 10, 2008


by Sandra G. Boodman




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2008/06/06/AR2008060603770_pf.
html ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001YJBBWb69Npf5D9Xsur-VznacflVJFUBexYAWJ3zB8JexbosGbIHPK4oyeRS45NNHXUPTLlyXBqHiRmB4D-TN7-HkaMzKLaxqKKvBfFTrchxQI8b1STWG3N8MQKUqPLSEWEmvQWVSs9AxyxiufiL1X8beRNlV6jSFM-Lu90WoCYZX0DYAfff5xzIlCBWCAAZdUgGP8ScvAAm4w3vzhmc59g ==)

In public health circles they are known
as "exempters" -- parents who for reasons of faith or
philosophy choose not to immunize their children
against diseases such as measles and whooping
cough. Some exempters claim that childhood
vaccines contain unnatural or harmful ingredients;
others say they regard vaccination as a "dark force"
that conflicts with their belief in a benevolent deity; still
others are members of a religion that bars invasive
procedures.


Regardless of the reason, the ranks of parents
exercising nonmedical exemptions to vaccination are
growing, public health officials say. Although the
number remains small and involves an estimated 2 to
3 percent of the approximately 3 million children who
start kindergarten annually, the trend alarms some
experts. They worry that parents' fears are being
stoked by misinformation about vaccines that
abounds on the Internet and are using religion as an
excuse to opt out of immunization. This refusal,
scientists say, threatens a cornerstone of public
health.


"People are motivated by their fears," said Paul
Offit, chief of the division of infectious diseases at
Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and one of the
most outspoken defenders of vaccines. "Young
mothers today don't see these diseases, they didn't
grow up with them. Vaccines were not a hard sell"
several decades ago, when people saw children
killed by measles, brain-damaged from haemophilus
influenzae or deaf after a case of mumps.


"I think religious exemptions are used as a
default," said Offit, a professor of pediatrics at the
University of Pennsylvania who has written several
books on vaccines.


Half a dozen studies, Offit noted, have found no
link between vaccines and autism, one of the major
objections cited by those who spurn immunization.
The overwhelming consensus among scientists, he
said, is that the benefits of vaccination greatly
outweigh the risks.


But that view is rejected by such anti-
immunization groups as Vaccine Liberation and
Citizens for Vaccine Choice. They claim the shots are
harmful and urge parents to exercise their right to
avoid them.


Two weeks ago, a Northern Virginia-based group
called the National Vaccine Information Center
launched a campaign calling for "broad exemptions
for medical, religious and conscientious belief
reasons." According to Barbara Loe Fisher, the
group's co-founder, "forcing vaccination is a violation
of human rights."


Every state and the District grants medical
exemptions to children who are allergic to
components of vaccines or whose immune systems
are too compromised to benefit from them. And all but
two states -- West Virginia and Mississippi -- allow
parents to opt out on religious grounds.


In some states, such as Maryland, parents need
only sign a form claiming a religious exemption, while
parents in Virginia and the District must submit a
notarized statement.


In recent years lawmakers in 21 states, none of
them local, have created "personal-belief" or
philosophical exemptions that permit children to skip
vaccines on the grounds that they conflict with a
parent's views.


"Many states are making personal-belief
exemptions easier," said Saad B. Omer, a vaccine
researcher at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School
of Public Health. "Filing for an exemption should at
least be a function of conviction, not laziness."


In 2006, Omer and other vaccine researchers
published a study in the Journal of the American
Medical Association which examined rates of
pertussis, or whooping cough, in states with personal-
belief exemptions and those where nonmedical
exemptions were easy to obtain.


They found that the incidence of the disease was
about 50 percent higher in states with personal-belief
exemptions than those without them and in
jurisdictions where religious exemptions were easy to
obtain than in those with more stringent requirements.
Researchers also found a substantial increase in
personal-belief exemptions: the rate grew from 0.99
percent in 1999 in states that allow them to 2.5
percent in 2004.


In Maryland, state statistics show that 1,300
kindergarteners, or 0.2 percent, were exempted on
religious grounds in 2004, a rate that rose to 0.5
percent, or 2,500 children, in 2006.


Parents who decide not to immunize, Omer
noted, are making decisions for children other than
their own. No shot confers 100 percent immunity, and
unvaccinated children can spread disease to those
who are too young or too medically fragile to be
immunized, including those suffering from cancer.


Currently, Omer noted, a measles epidemic is
unfolding in San Diego, where 64 cases of the
disease have been reported. All but one of the affected
children, he said, had not been vaccinated, some
because they were too young for the shot, which is
administered at about 12 months.


A bill that would grant personal-belief exemptions
has been introduced in New York, where Rita Palma
and her husband have been battling school officials
over a religious exemption for the youngest of her
three sons. Palma, a Roman Catholic, said that in
2006, after several years of receiving signs from God,
she decided not to take her son for the last of three
required hepatitis B shots.


"Vaccinations," Palma said in an interview, "are
based on a very dark, threatening pessimistic
principle" that if you do not inject your child, he will
become sick or could die. "To me, good health is
earned through seeking God."


After a two-hour meeting informally known as
a "sincerity interview" -- attended by the Palmas, their
lawyer and an attorney for the Bayport-Blue Point
School District on Long Island -- school officials
rejected the couple's request for a religious
exemption. In a February 2007 letter they cited the
couple's history of immunizing their children.


Palma ultimately took her son for the shot so he
could attend school but has appealed the decision to
the New York State Supreme Court.


"I'm furious about it," she said. "This is an
absolute injustice."


Fisher, of the vaccine information center, said she
claimed a religious exemption to certain shots
required in the District and later in Virginia for her
daughter when she attended parochial schools.


Fisher said her older son had a bad reaction to a
childhood vaccine, and "I was very afraid that I would
have another child this would happen to," though her
pediatrician recommended the girl be immunized.


"I prayed about whether God wanted me to do
what this physician wanted me to do," she recalled.
After a three-hour meeting, she said, her Lutheran
pastor signed a statement in support of her
exemption. "He said he didn't have to agree with me
but that I had a sincere religious belief." School
officials accepted it, she said.


Although she is aware that some parents might
manufacture religious objections, Fisher said she
doesn't recommend it. "If you are going to take a
religious exemption, you have to have a sincere belief
and be true to the spirit and intent of religious
exemption," she said.


Maryland officials say they are watching
immunization trends. Ed Hirshhorn, chief of the state's
Vaccines for Children program, said that although he
thinks the religious exemption requirement is "too
easy," officials are reluctant to seek stronger
requirements in the absence of an outbreak of
disease or dramatic increase in parental refusal.
"You're always opening Pandora's box," he said.



Comments:boodmans@washpost.com</b

 

[Sabertooth]

My take on the vaccine/autism question is given here.

 

[HazelAngel]

I just thought to add here 2scoops that I am standing up for normals Some of my best friends r normals and that includes u ok Here is what the word normals means

Normals - ppl without any kind of disability or any kind of sickness or leprosy.

I kinda dont like ppl being called normals, I mean they r just ppl but I will stick to the term though

 

[2scoops]

AAP Leadership Fights Informed Vaccine Choices
taken from
NVIC Vaccine E-NewsletterJune 19, 2008




by Barbara Loe Fisher

In another fit of pique aimed at the growing number of
vaccine-educated parents questioning pediatricians
about the safety of vaccines, the largest private
medical organization representing medical doctors
treating children - the American Academy of
Pediatrics (AAP) - recently announced to its
membership that it will fight doubting parents in their
offices, in the media, on the internet and through a
partnership with other wealthy and powerful
organizations funded by a pharmaceutical industry
committed to doing the same thing.

On May 30, the AAP leadership reports that it met
with the leaders of 15 allied organizations in Elk
Grove, Illinois to discuss the growing refusal of
parents to vaccinate their children according to
recommendations of the Centers for Disease Control
(CDC) and AAP. A recent letter to AAP members
stated:

"The group agreed that recent attacks on
vaccines have left parents confused. The rates of
exemptions are climbing, and the protection of
communities from vaccine preventable diseases is in
jeopardy. Participants identified several factors that
promote anti-vaccine information:



· Parent-to-parent spread of myths,


· A public that does not understand the risk of
vaccine-preventable diseases,


· Internet and media exposure that is not balanced,



· Decreased trust in the government and health care
providers,


· Slow response to negative news coverage, and
· Increasing calls for philosophical exemptions.



The group recognized strategies that have
worked in the past to address these drivers, agreed to
jointly promote the positive value of vaccines, and will
come together again in July to develop a cohesive
message for dissemination. This message will be
disseminated in mainstream media, through
professional organizations, and via Internet tools.
Materials are expected to be available by fall 2008.
The group will formally be known as the Immunization
Alliance."



Information on the AAP website (http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=0015FM6lqEI...sHNfOLdtgCfvJsbM3qxI7K_YMhpn92Aex3Mwg==)gives pediatricians
instructions about what to do with parents who refuse
to obey the doctor's orders, including a sample letter
that states:




"By not vaccinating your child you are taking
selfish advantage of thousands of others who do
vaccinate their children, which decreases the
likelihood that your child will contract one of these
diseases. We feel such an attitude to be self-centered
and unacceptable. We are making you aware of these
facts not to scare you or coerce you, but to emphasize
the importance of vaccinating your child. We recognize
that the choice may be a very emotional one for some
parents. We will do everything we can to convince you
that vaccinating according to the schedule is the right
thing to do.



However, should you have doubts, please
discuss these with your health care provider in
advance of your visit. In some cases, we may alter the
schedule to accommodate parental concerns or
reservations. Please be advised, however, that
delaying or "breaking up the vaccines" to give one or
two at a time over two or more visits goes against
expert recommendations, and can put your child at
risk for serious illness (or even death) and goes
against our medical advice as providers....such
additional visits will require additional co-pays on your
part. Furthermore, please realize that you will be
required to sign a "Refusal to Vaccinate"
acknowledgement in the event of lengthy delays.



Finally, if you should absolutely refuse to
vaccinate your child despite all our efforts, we will ask
you to find another health care provider who shares
your views. We do not keep a list of such providers nor
would we recommend any such physician."




Educated parents of America attempting to make
informed, voluntary vaccination decisions for your
children be warned: your pediatrician is out to change
your mind about vaccination or teach you a lesson you
will never forget.



Hang on to your child because the doctor you
have trusted with your child's life might just try to make
you out to be a bad parent and not only throw you out
of the office but notify state officials to charge you with
child medical abuse if you don't agree to give your
child every one of those 69 doses of 16 vaccines that
doctors working for the Centers for Disease Control
say all children from birth to age 18 must get.



Be prepared that the doctor, who you pay to
keep your child well, may dutifully obey recent orders
given by the AAP leadership to implement one-size-
fits-all government vaccine policies: no questions
asked. The next time you visit your pediatrician and
attempt to ask a question about vaccine reactions or
suggest your child get fewer or no vaccines
(especially if your child has already suffered serious
vaccine reactions your doctor refuses to recognize) be
prepared to be humiliated, harassed, threatened and
thrown out of the office.



The message from the AAP leadership to
vaccine-educated parents is: you WILL give your
children every vaccine that industry produces even it
brain damages or kills them. You DO NOT have the
human right to protect your child from vaccine injury
and death because you MUST sacrifice your child for
what AAP and government officials have decided is
the "greater good." Your child does NOT belong to you
and if you don't agree to do exactly what we say, we
will make sure your family is denied medical care.




Sounds like a smart plan to me, pediatricians of
America, if you want to fatally compromise the last
remaining shred of trust that mothers and fathers
have in your knowledge about vaccine risks and how
to minimize them for the children they love more than
anyone in the world.



In the words of Jim Carrey: "How stupid do you
think we are?"



Twenty-six years ago, the co-founders of the
National Vaccine Information Center came to the table
with the AAP leadership to talk about compensating
children injured by mandated vaccines because the
AAP said it was a matter of "simple justice for
children." We believed the AAP leadership really cared
about minimizing vaccine risks for the individual child
rather than just wanting to pass the National
Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 for the purpose
of protecting drug companies and pediatricians from
liability for vaccine injuries and deaths so they could
continue to implement one-size-fits-all vaccine
policies. Time and time again over the past quarter
century, the AAP leadership has demonstrated that
they betrayed the trust of parents then and now by
refusing to work with parents to minimize vaccine
risks.



In 1982, it was far easier to sweep vaccine
injured children under the carpet because 1 in 6
American child was not becoming learning disabled
and 1 in 150 child was not regressing into autism.
Today, there are so many highly vaccinated children
who are sick and disabled that there is no place to run
and no place to hide.



The vaccine safety and informed consent
movement has been led by educated middle class
mothers and fathers who DO know how to tell a bad
scientific study from a good one; who DO know how to
calculate the amount of mercury or aluminum in a
vaccine; and who DO know the difference between
being told a lie and being told the truth about vaccine
risks.



AAP: we are not stupid. We will not stand by and
watch our children and grandchildren become vaccine
damaged because you are obsessed with forcing
every child to use every vaccine that Pharma produces
with no concern for protecting the children who cannot
use every vaccine safely. You can deny us medical
care and try to take away our human right to voluntary,
informed consent to vaccination but you will never win
the war you have declared on millions of vaccine-
educated parents in America.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



AAP Spearheads New Immunization Alliance


On May 30, 2008, leaders from 15 organizations met
at the American Academy of Pediatrics headquarters
in Elk Grove Village, IL, to discuss recapturing the
public's trust in immunizations. The meeting was
called by the Academy's Executive Director, Errol
Alden, MD, FAAP, in response to the #1 resolution
from the Annual Leadership Forum, which
resolved, "that the Academy lead the development of a
coalition of health professional, public health,
scientific and other organizations to develop a media
campaign to market directly to parents the value of
immunizations and the importance of child health
recommendations based on credible scientific
evidence."



The group agreed that recent attacks on
vaccines have left parents confused. The rates of
exemptions are climbing, and the protection of
communities from vaccine preventable diseases is in
jeopardy. Participants identified several factors that
promote anti-vaccine information:




· Parent-to-parent spread of myths,

· A public that does not understand the risk of
vaccine-preventable diseases,
· Internet and media exposure that is not balanced,
· Decreased trust in the government and health care
providers,


· Slow response to negative news coverage, and

· Increasing calls for philosophical exemptions.
The group recognized strategies that have
worked in the past to address these drivers, agreed to
jointly promote the positive value of vaccines, and will
come together again in July to develop a cohesive
message for dissemination. This message will be
disseminated in mainstream media, through
professional organizations, and via Internet tools.
Materials are expected to be available by fall 2008.
The group will formally be known as the Immunization
Alliance. The Alliance plans to continue to work
together to address immunization issues as they
emerge both now and in the future.


More information will be in the July issue of AAP
News. In order to support its members in the
meantime, the Academy has developed several
resources for parents and pediatricians posted on the
CISP Web Site at
http://www.cispimmunize.org/pro/pro_
main.html?
http&&&www.cispimmunize.org/pro/ParentalRefusalto
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