You are mistaken. Those things are forgivable. Peter denied the Holy Spirit before men and he was forgiven and called to be an apostle. Paul persecuted Christians, he too was forgiven and called to be an apostle. The truths and the scriptures speak for themselves.
First off, in a forum littered with impressionable young Christians who are just getting started on their faith walk, why are you encouraging them to sin and commit offenses against the Lord and the Holy Spirit? Your thoughts, actions and deeds have no light of dawn in them. You have been deluded by dark forces. You are putting a stumbling block before others when the Bible says FEAR GOD, I AM THE LORD.
People do not follow suit. As I have pointed out numerous times before, REBELLION against the Holy Spirit (and encouraging others to do the same) leads to DEATH and DAMNATION.
Neither of these APOSTLES DENIED the HOLY SPIRIT. That never happened in either case. Peter did NOT deny the Holy Spirit before men and was forgiven. See, people take note, when you habitually read Scripture you can’t be easily manipulated or led astray by the Devil’s schemes. This is why I encourage others to read their Bibles; however, I am starting to realize more than ever that no matter how much of a “devout Christian” one professes to be only a few will heed the warning and wisdom, while the majority will continue to disrespect, rebel and rebuke the HOLY things of God and still fully anticipate getting into Heaven on Judgment Day.
SMH. This couldn’t be further from the truth (I've witnessed it). But I digress b/c we all live and learn; we will all be held accountable for our individual choices and actions. Humble, the SINS
YOU commit against the Heavenly Father, Scripture and the Holy Spirit will NOT be held against ME, RE or anyone else here. You are only doing yourself a disservice. I nor anyone else here will be marked for death for disobeying the Holy Spirit. Just keep that in mind.
Matthew 7:13
The Narrow and Wide Gates
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
Peter denied the Holy Spirit before men and he was forgiven and called to be an apostle.
This NEVER occurred. In John 18 Peter denied being a DISCIPLE in fear of his life after the Messiah had just been detained. Christ predicted
ALL of
THEM WOULD DO the
EXACT SAME at the Last Supper in Mark 14:27 “
You will all fall away,” Jesus told them, “for it is written: “‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered." None of the disciples were very brave at this point. But this is a far cry from DENYING the majesty, anointing and divinity of the Holy Spirit, which actually was NOT bestowed onto ANY of the disciples until AFTER this incident occurred and AFTER Christ’s DEATH and resurrection.
In these excerpts the first two passages from John are where Christ is discussing the anointing of the Holy Spirit
before He dies on the cross. If you notice, He is speaking in future tense throughout b/c this anointing will not occur until
AFTER He dies on the cross, as it is revealed in John 16 verse 7: But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away.
Unless I go away, the Counselor will
not come to you;
but if I go, I will send him to you. 8
When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment.
John 14
Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. ... 25 “All this I have spoken while still with you. 26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
John 16
The Work of the Holy Spirit
5 “Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. 7 But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
16 “In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me.”
In the remaining passages, Christ has returned (after Peter's denial in John 18) to bestow the Holy Spirit onto all of His disciples.
John 20
Jesus Appears to His Disciples
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”
Acts 1
Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God.4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
In this segment the disciples are FINALLY ANOINTED with the Holy Spirit for the FIRST TIME. I don't see Peter
denying anything.
Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting.3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken.
12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
Acts 2 testifies to Peter’s reaction DIRECTLY AFTER being anointed with the Holy Spirit. In this passage it clearly shows that Peter is NOT denying the Holy Spirit before men, who wrote off all of Christ’s disciples as town drunks. “...15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel ...” On the contrary, he DEFENDS the Holy Spirit before men and saves 3,000 souls as a result.
Paul persecuted Christians, he too was forgiven and called to be an apostle.
Again, he also did NOT deny the unction or anointing of the Holy Spirit. Just the opposite occurred, in fact.
Acts 9
Saul’s Conversion
9 Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. ... 3 As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.
“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. 6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
9 For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything.
10 In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”
“Yes, Lord,” he answered.
11 The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying.12 In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.”
17 Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord—Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here—has sent me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”18 Immediately, something like scales fell from Saul’s eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was baptized, 19 and after taking some food, he regained his strength.
It honestly seems like pursuing this discussion is without merit. Keep in mind, in a Christian forum, you are witnessing to others with every keystroke. Encouraging others to INSULT, RESIST, GREIEVE and BLASPHEME the HOLY SPIRIT who bestows life (Romans 8) seems counterproductive to the body of Christ.
People test the spirits. By their fruits, ye will know them. We are all living and breathing spirits as well, so we need to be just as conscientious of our neighbors as we are of the unseen.
Poddie
