Atonement views

[CelticRebel]

Pouring life into lifelessness, value into void. The sacrifices were offerings of life. To fill up the gap of unrighteousness, although they only prefigured this.

There is nothing substitutionary about these sacrifices as far as I can tell. It's something we tend to read back into the text.

Thank you for your answer.

I have a problem with the teaching that god required these sacrifices. The OT prophets said He didn't. But that's another can of worms, so to speak, that i probably shouldn't open. That and my views on hell and the atonement got me booted off a fundie Baptist forum.

 

[Cappadocious]

Thank you for your answer.

I have a problem with the teaching that god required these sacrifices. The OT prophets said He didn't. But that's another can of worms, so to speak, that i probably shouldn't open. That and my views on hell and the atonement got me booted off a fundie Baptist forum.

Well, I don't know how one could square God "needing" the sacrifices with the Epistle to the Hebrews. That would be a tough workaround.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Thank you for your answer.

I have a problem with the teaching that god required these sacrifices. The OT prophets said He didn't. But that's another can of worms, so to speak, that i probably shouldn't open. That and my views on hell and the atonement got me booted off a fundie Baptist forum.

indeed, God requires nothing. to require something means He has needs and He has no needs being God.

 

[CelticRebel]

indeed, God requires nothing. to require something means He has needs and He has no needs being God.

I find it amazing that I am so much in agreement with Orthodoxy on many important doctrines and so far away on others.

 

[All4Christ]

I find it amazing that I am so much in agreement with Orthodoxy on many important doctrines and so far away on others.

I was there as well for a long time. It took me 5 years of research (and trying pretty much every possible church) to finally decide to give Orthodoxy a chance. I started attending, believing that it was a beautiful place to worship, but didn't think I would join officially, due to some conflicting beliefs. It turns out that things made a lot more sense over time, and I felt completely at home in the Orthodox Faith.

 

[CelticRebel]

I was there as well for a long time. It took me 5 years of research (and trying pretty much every possible church) to finally decide to give Orthodoxy a chance. I started attending, believing that it was a beautiful place to worship, but didn't think I would join officially, due to some conflicting beliefs. It turns out that things made a lot more sense over time, and I felt completely at home in the Orthodox Faith.

I am truly happy for you.

 

[All4Christ]

I am truly happy for you.

I hope you find happiness and fulfillment through your journey as well!

 

[ArmyMatt]

I find it amazing that I am so much in agreement with Orthodoxy on many important doctrines and so far away on others.

you are probably even closer than you think

 

[CelticRebel]

you are probably even closer than you think

I wish that was true.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I wish that was true.

it might be.....

 

[CelticRebel]

it might be.....

I appreciate it, but maybe after reading some of my other recent posts you won't think that anymore.

As I said, though, in another thread, I also appreciate you, AM, for all that you have written to me.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I appreciate it, but maybe after reading some of my other recent posts you won't think that anymore.

As I said, though, in another thread, I also appreciate you, AM, for all that you have written to me.

many of us on here were inquiring Protestants and such, so we can relate to what you are asking, brother.

 

[CelticRebel]

many of us on here were inquiring Protestants and such, so we can relate to what you are asking, brother.

Thanks, AM!

 

[ArmyMatt]

no probs, bro!