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Again, why so defensive? Why does every post have to be a shot?
Again, why so defensive? Why does every post have to be a shot?
I did. A character in a book.The problem is that no one can define God.
And the OP did just that.And yes I know the OP was put out as an offering for someone to define Him. Surely, no one expects an atheist to define God.
Then perhaps you should spend more time in the Physical Sciences forum.And surely no Christian should expect any answer they give to be sufficient "proof" to any atheist.
If you can't define what you believe in, then convincing others of the validity of your beliefs will be problematic.As a christian myself, I can only give a feeble attempt to describe some of the attributes that I have discovered about God, but define Him? No.
I think where that definition fails is in its inability to distinguish "God" from "nonexistent."any attempt top define God would be in vain. His ways are so far above ours. We lack the language to do it. No, this does not mean that we are evading a definition, just that a definition does not do God justice. He is greater than any definition. A definition would only box Him in to something that is beneath Him. If anyone wants a definition of God? How about God Is.
This is where communications break down. When you belittle soemthing I have devoted my life to serving.
This is me disconnecting the line.
This is where communications break down. When you belittle soemthing I have devoted my life to serving.
This is me disconnecting the line.
So, why should it be his problem.
Is it never a possibility that it's your problem for devoting your life to something that is false?
Trying to have a conversation by insulting something I hold dear is his problem.
If I am devoting my life to something he or you believe to be false, then it is of no concern to you or him.
Trying to have a conversation by insulting something I hold dear is his problem.
If I am devoting my life to something he or you believe to be false, then it is of no concern to you or him.
Okay, this must be the nth time I've seen you say this. You're the one being defensive and it shows each time you repeat this. People are replying to you civilly and with consideration of your claims so I'll just repeat my question:Again, why so defensive? Why does every post have to be a shot?
I did. A character in a book.
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This is where communications break down. When you belittle soemthing I have devoted my life to serving.
This is me disconnecting the line.
We are not insulting anything. Insult is a personal response, and a personal responsibility.
If you find offense or insult in having people criticize your views, that's your business. But looking for sympathy after posting your views on a discussion forum and taking offense at the concept people don't agree with you is unrealistic.
The fact is, you hold a belief in the existence of something you can not demonstrate exists. That by definition is an unjustified position. You may be right, you may be wrong, but until you can demonstrate it, we are completely justified in not accepting your beliefs as true.
Stating we should give your position special consideration because you have devoted your life to this thing, is not going to work either. In our view, you did devote your life to a non-existent entity, and I am being sincere in offering advice to stop doing that. Instead, you would be better served by examining what is and what is not true, from a rational viewpoint.
So, the kids that have died when their Christian Scientist parents didn't simply take them to a doctor or call 911... it should not be anyone's concern?
That sounds very immoral of you...
I am not a Christian Scientist parent that doesn't take his kids to the doctor or call 911.
When I say it should be of no concern to you or anyone else, I am referring to myself. I can only speak for myself.
And for the record, being a Christian does not equal being stupid, just as being an Atheist does not equal being stupid. Although, there are stupid people on both sides of the fence. And, I do not mean that an insult.![]()
In case you missed the quote that was the reason for my post, your partner in atheism stated my God was a character in a book. This is an insult.
And I am not lloking for sympathy, nor am I asking for any special consideration.
I was merely stating that I would not carry on a conversation with any one who would insult me. If you observe my previous posts, I have in no way insulted anyone about their choice to not believe.
What I find most interesting about this post is that you state, I may be right and I may be wrong but I can not demonstrate that I am right.
You or any other athiest can not demonstrate that I am wrong, either. You just CHOOSE to believe there is no God. In that, you have more in common with me than you would probably like to admit. I have also made a choice, I CHOOSE to believe He does exist.
And for the record, being a Christian does not equal being stupid, just as being an Atheist does not equal being stupid. Although, there are stupid people on both sides of the fence. And, I do not mean that an insult.![]()
Well, I don't know what else you believe. The Christian religion seems to allow all kinds of things to be "true" and "right".
"A character in a book" is not a personal attack. If you count all words and descriptions you hear as "insults", you'll find life quite unbearable.
It should be added that atheism isn't a "CHOICE". I don't choose to lack a belief in things that are un-evidenced, it's a default.
(None taken.)