Atheistic Liberal News Media

[Archaeopteryx]

Nothing could please me more than to be told I am full of crap, by an Atheist.

Haven't you been listening to the Christians who've told you exactly that, more-or-less, for the past few years?

 

[clirus]

Haven't you been listening to the Christians who've told you exactly that, more-or-less, for the past few years?

Christians?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Christians?

Yes, the dozens of self-professing Christians who have, over the years, rebuked your ideology and policy objectives as non-Christian nonsense.

 

[Gishin]

Have you ever seen military combat? I hear there are no Atheists in fox holes.

In this, like most everything else, you are wrong.

 

[sdmsanjose]

Quote of Clirus
It is an Atheists that will watch his neighbor be robbed and raped, but do nothing.

To: Gishin

IMO the statement by Clirus above is very judgmental, lacking in wisdom, and false. The fact that you have served in combat proves that you have done something, and I would not be surprised that some of those that you were fighting on our behalf were robbers and rapists.

Secondly I want to thank you for help protecting us and putting your life on the line for us. Thank my fellow American!


I believe that Jesus Christ is who He says He is. Please do not think that Clirus speaks for all Christians. In fact I have been with Christians and non-Christian people for over 50 years and I have only come across a small number that are as judgmental and lacking in wisdom as Clirus.

In my faith, were it not for God’s grace and mercy, Clirus and I would still be wretches.

God loves all His sons and daughters and that includes sdmsanjose, Clirus, and Gishin. God is not impressed with our proclaimed righteousness, He desires us to believe that He wants the best for us and would die for us so that we can be reconciled back to Him.

 

[clirus]

To: Gishin

IMO the statement by Clirus above is very judgmental, lacking in wisdom, and false. The fact that you have served in combat proves that you have done something, and I would not be surprised that some of those that you were fighting on our behalf were robbers and rapists.

Secondly I want to thank you for help protecting us and putting your life on the line for us. Thank my fellow American!


I believe that Jesus Christ is who He says He is. Please do not think that Clirus speaks for all Christians. In fact I have been with Christians and non-Christian people for over 50 years and I have only come across a small number that are as judgmental and lacking in wisdom as Clirus.

In my faith, were it not for God’s grace and mercy, Clirus and I would still be wretches.

God loves all His sons and daughters and that includes sdmsanjose, Clirus, and Gishin. God is not impressed with our proclaimed righteousness, He desires us to believe that He wants the best for us and would die for us so that we can be reconciled back to Him.

Question

Are you the son or daughter of God until you have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committed to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible?

I will remind you of the following:

Gishin quote (see #15)

I'm an atheist in the military and you're full of crap.

 

[The Lady Kate]

Question

Are you the son or daughter of God until you have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committed to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible?

The commandments/doctrines of clirus are not required... and in fact, will lead far too many people astray.

I will remind you of the following:

Gishin quote (see #15)

I'm an atheist in the military and you're full of crap.

I'm a Chrisitan not in the military... and while I hope that Gishin comes to Jesus someday soon, he's got you pegged exactly.

 

[Gishin]

sdmsanjose and kate, while I don't subscribe to your beliefs, I appreciate the sentiment. Just for honesty's sake, I have not ever been in direct fire, but have sustained indirect fire.

 

[keith99]

Atheists really hated George W. Bush because Bush was a Godly man.

America was attacked on 9/11 and congress authorized the Middle East war. President Bush waged war in as civil a manner as possible however the authorization of war means there is no such thing as civilians in the military zone.

Soldiers are the shield that stand between the enemy and freedom in America, the pacifists and war protestors are the ones that stand behind the shield and stab the soldiers in the back.

It is a Godly man that will love his neighbor as himself. It is an Atheists that will watch his neighbor be robbed and raped, but do nothing.

What about us agnostics?

I can not speak for others but I have never stood idly by. I have stepped into the middle of domestic disputes, something most police officers are reluctant to do (and rightfully so).

No Kitty Genovesses in my neighborhood, ever.

 

[sdmsanjose]

I am going to reprint a poem below that I think may be useful for Clirus.
Also, this poem has helped me to get back on track at times.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I'm clean livin'."
I'm whispering "I was lost,
Now I'm found and forgiven."

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need Christ to be my guide.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
And need His strength to carry on.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
And need God to clean my mess.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
But, God believes I am worth it.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain.
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.

When I say ... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
Who received God's good grace, somehow


I am a Christian by Maya Angelou

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Clirus seems oblivious to the fact that her most fierce critics on this forum are self-professing Christians. Christian and non-Christian alike have used Scripture to argue against the claims of her ideology, and yet it seems that she has scarcely contemplated the serious implications (to her ideology) of our counter-arguments. Indeed, it seems that she has in no way accommodated our critiques into her thought, not even mildly. It is like talking to a brick wall. I presume Clirus cannot detach herself from her arguments and inspect from an impartial distance because she is too emotionally invested in them. This seems understandable. Clirus has spent years posting essentially the same claims on various Internet forums. This requires effort and commitment, for which she is to be commended, but it also requires a persistent psychological justification that the time commitment and effort was 'worth it'. For Clirus to acknowledge that she was wrong on any count would, in her eyes perhaps, invalidate all her past efforts, and remove the psychological justification for them. To acknowledge that she was wrong, after so much work, might afterall suggest to her that her past labours were fruitless and simply a waste of time. This of course can happen to anyone who invests considerable time and energy into a project, only to find that perhaps they had chosen the wrong path from the outset. The challenge here, to grow intellectually, is to move past that. How to succeed in this challenge... I do not know.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Clirus contends that the Atheistic Liberal News Media and Entertainment Industry reports "only bad news about Christians, Conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats." If that is true, then why is the Atheistic Liberal News Media reporting this story, which is clearly bad news about democrats.

 

[clirus]

The Lady Kate quote

The commandments/doctrines of clirus are not required... and in fact, will lead far too many people astray.

Response

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgement, and every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil."

John 15:10-12 states, "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you"

 

[The Lady Kate]

The Lady Kate quote

The commandments/doctrines of clirus are not required... and in fact, will lead far too many people astray.

Response

Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgement, and every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil."

John 15:10-12 states, "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you"

clirus 3:16 states, "but know that such doctrines are only applicable to those whom you consider worthy, and so, you may even choose to ignore that in the eyes of heaven, you yourself are not worthy. Let not this trouble you, for in your mind, it is a trivial thing."

 

[laconicstudent]

I'm another Christian and as usual, Clirus has started a thread that is a mix of sad, funny and disturbing. I also agree with Gishin.

Clirus, this is utter nonsense. Your constant conservative politics which you veil but thinly with a veneer of "Christianity" creates an ugly image of unorthodox theology along with personal consuming anger, hate and fear which drives people in this forum even further from the faith.

"Acquire the spirit of peace and thousands around you will be saved."
--St. Seraphim of Sarov

"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." --1 John 4:8



"I was born to love people. It doesn’t concern me if he is a Turk, black, or white. I see in the face of each person the image of God. And for this image of God I am willing to sacrifice everything." --Elder Amphilochios Makris of Patmos



"'I cannot persuade myself that without love to others, and without, as far as rests with me, peaceableness towards all, I can be called a worthy servant of Jesus Christ.'" --St. Basil the Great


"What is a merciful heart? It is the heart's burning for the sake of the entire creation, for men, for birds, for animals, for demons and for every created thing; and by the recollection and sight of them the eyes of a merciful man pour forth abundant tears. From the strong and vehement mercy which grips his heart and from his great compassion, his heart is humbled and he cannot bear to hear or see any injury or slight sorrow in creation. For this reason he continually offers up tearful prayer, even for irrational beasts, for the enemies of the truth and for those who harm him, that they be protected and receive mercy. And in like manner he even prays for the family of reptiles because of the great compassion that burns in his heart without measure in the likeness of God.'"

--St. Isaac the Syrian (Homily 81.)



"'Forgiveness is better than revenge.'" St. Tikhon of Zadonsk

 

[clirus]

laconicstudent quote

I'm another Christian and as usual, Clirus has started a thread that is a mix of sad, funny and disturbing. I also agree with Gishin.

Clirus, this is utter nonsense. Your constant conservative politics which you veil but thinly with a veneer of "Christianity" creates an ugly image of unorthodox theology along with personal consuming anger, hate and fear which drives people in this forum even further from the faith.

Response

Gishin statement to clirus (see #15)

I'm an atheist in the military and you're full of crap.

Psalms 1:1-2 states, "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the of the ungodly, not standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."

If my unorthodox theology brought people to a better understanding that God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit was both love and righteousness, would that not be a good thing?

Some say things in the world are going along just fine, except that we need more love, but I see things as great problems with a need to return to righteousness.

 

[The Lady Kate]

If my unorthodox theology brought people to a better understanding that God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit was both love and righteousness, would that not be a good thing?

It would be... except you use "righteousness" as an excuse not to love. We all know your interpretation of the Good Samaritan.

Some say things in the world are going along just fine, except that we need more love, but I see things as great problems with a need to return to righteousness.

And less love... no thanks.

 

[DuneSoldier]

laconicstudent quote

I'm another Christian and as usual, Clirus has started a thread that is a mix of sad, funny and disturbing. I also agree with Gishin.

Clirus, this is utter nonsense. Your constant conservative politics which you veil but thinly with a veneer of "Christianity" creates an ugly image of unorthodox theology along with personal consuming anger, hate and fear which drives people in this forum even further from the faith.

Response

Gishin statement to clirus (see #15)

I'm an atheist in the military and you're full of crap.

Psalms 1:1-2 states, "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the of the ungodly, not standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night."

If my unorthodox theology brought people to a better understanding that God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit was both love and righteousness, would that not be a good thing?

Some say things in the world are going along just fine, except that we need more love, but I see things as great problems with a need to return to righteousness.

IMHO your unorthodox theology is more likely to drive people away from God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[variant]

Almost everything you read, see, and hear is owned by one of only 6 corporations.

You also sound like Bush Sr.

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
- George Bush

I could never find a good source verifying that quote.

Also, (to anyone who cares) is "Atheistic" grammatically correct? I have never seen or heard anyone use the term aside from cilrus.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Also, (to anyone who cares) is "Atheistic" grammatically correct? I have never seen or heard anyone use the term aside from cilrus.

Really? It's definitely a real word. I've used it quite a lot myself. It's just the adjective form of 'atheism'.