ephraimanesti
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MY BROTHER,
AMEN to that!
However, our Lord, God, and Savior is uniquely unique, being human and Divine at the same time--One of a kind, you might say.
ephraim
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MY BROTHER,Each human is as unique as at is possible to be.
MY BROTHER,
AMEN to that!
However, our Lord, God, and Savior is uniquely unique, being human and Divine at the same time--One of a kind, you might say.
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
MY DEAR SISTER,That's only what Christians believe, however there are 4 billion people on this planet who are not Christians.
Thankfully I am not your sister.
I will say this though, YOU REALLY MAKE ME WANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN,MY DEAR SISTER,
Yes indeed! God is so blessed with His children that there are indeed a bunch--and each and every one is beloved by their Heavenly Father far beyond anything we can possibly imagine or comprehend--even the hairs on each one of our heads is numbered! (Luke 12:7)
Thankfully that's not your choice--you only get to pick your friends.
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
MOM, HE'S MAKING FONTS AT ME AGAIN!
Come on, now!
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
You know how when you when you taste something bad, wish you hadn't ever taken a bite, and then try to scrape the stuff back off your tongue into the garbage?
That's what my brain is doing with this thread.
MY DEAR SISTER,I will say this though, YOU REALLY MAKE ME WANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN,
or kill myself, I can't make up my mind.
MY DEAR SISTER,
Yes indeed! God is so blessed with His children that there are indeed a bunch--and each and every one is beloved by their Heavenly Father far beyond anything we can possibly imagine or comprehend--even the hairs on each one of our heads is numbered! (Luke 12:7)
Thankfully that's not your choice--you only get to pick your friends.
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
Not from where I'm standing.If i may suggest--becoming a Christian is much the better choice of the two,
MY BROTHER,Isnt it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? Douglas Adams
MY DEAR SISTER,Christians, for every good one there's also a nut.
What do you expect, my brother, i'm from Seattle?--you know, the caffeine and all.More and more frequently I'm starting to question whether my time spent on here is met with equal thoughtfulness from others. It's probably just a few radical cases such as this one that concern me, however, for many other theists on here actually manage to hold a meaningful conversation.
Actually all of us are some kind of distant cousins someway or the other. Brother and sisters are a bit too 'close'. We didn't pop into existance some 100,000 years ago. We humans and animals have been here on this earth for millions of years(depends on your defenition of human, if homo sapiens, then about 200,000 years ago)
MY BROTHER,
Nothing of beauty and meaning happens by accident--NOTHING!
So when one encounters a beautiful garden which brings one pleasure and joy, is it not natural for one to desire to meet the Gardener, and to thank Him for His wondrous gift?
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
MY BROTHER,
Actually, our "humanness" is defined by, and predicated upon, our reflection of the image and likeness of our Creator.
Anything less than this is just another evolved animal.
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
MY BROTHER,I agree, as well with nothing pops from nowhere. It is not an accident, it was 'natural design'. There was no gardener, simply nature doing its thing. This is what I mean when I inserted that quote. Why can't we all agree it is beautiful for the sake of being beautiful. There was no, in highest probability, no designer. Now that what we consider beauty is another discussion all together.
Absolutely.It just never has computed for me that there can be a "design" without a "designer".
Also it is not logical to say that we are the image of our creator. What about everything else? Does he look like a tree? A rock? Along with everything else in this universe.[/QOUTE]
Well, the bible says that only humans were made in his image, so everything else is part of his creative imagination i guess
as for aliens, if there are any, i'd assume they would be put in the same position as humans and probably would look like us too
and, of course, none of this will be logical
Well, my brother, i am a strong believer in Occam's Razor, as explained by Isaac Newton:We are all evolved animals. It doesn't change one bit who we are if we are evoled, it actually makes more sense.
We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances.
MY BROTHER,
It just never has computed for me that there can be a "design" without a "designer". Back in the crazy days of the 60's, no matter when weird stuff i was into or what bizarre world-view i held--i could never understand disbelief in some sort of overarching intelligence behind all that is.
Until i experienced God for myself, i held to the Deist minimum that the Creator created and then left the building. That is a far as i could push myself in my rejection of what little i knew about Christianity at that time and my condemnation and rebellion against what Christians believe.
It just cannot be an accident. (i mean, i know this because i now know God, but even before this most happy of meetings . . .i just couldn't go there. "Nature doing its thing"--WHY? How does it know what "thing" to do and how? Who has defined what "beautiful" is in the first place? Blind natural forces cannot not just accidentally throw together a human being out of spare parts from some other blind and meaningless "project!"
My brother--i just can't buy it, and i frankly don't see how anyone else can rationally--without an agenda--arrive at that conclusion and honestly hold to it in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
In short--"Natural design demands the existence of a purposeful designer."
ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim
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