Atheism

[DannyOcean]

brinny, what do you mean when you ask about death being abrupt? It's the second time you've used that word, so I'm wondering if you could clarify. It seems like there is something you're trying to get at.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

he's not the only one in the Matrix

No, Hamlet does not starr in the Matrix at all.

 

[brinny]

brinny, what do you mean when you ask about death being abrupt? It's the second time you've used that word, so I'm wondering if you could clarify. It seems like there is something you're trying to get at.

death is something i have struggled with. To be living, breathing, experiencing, and then it just stops. ....suddenly the antithesis to all of that engulfs and swallows one whole. it has ALWAYS bothered me...the abruptness. It's akin to a ripping away the carpet from under one, so to speak. ...in the blink of an eye....that's abrupt.

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
he's not the only one in the Matrix

No, Hamlet does not starr in the Matrix at all.

yeah, but Who's on 3rd?

 

[Tinker Grey]

What's the difference between a duck?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

yeah, but Who's on 3rd?

Doesn't matter. All your bases are belong to us.

 

[Eudaimonist]

death is something i have struggled with. To be living, breathing, experiencing, and then it just stops. ....suddenly the antithesis to all of that engulfs and swallows one whole. it has ALWAYS bothered me...the abruptness. It's akin to a ripping away the carpet from under one, so to speak. ...in the blink of an eye....that's abrupt.

That sounds like insecurity to me. Perhaps one does need to attain a certain measure of security in oneself in order to face death without experiencing the "carpet-ripping" feeling. Personally, I try to place my main focus on life -- the good memories, the good in the Now, the good plans for whatever time I have left -- rather than to dwell on death. I think that takes some of the edge off.

Life does have sharp edges. This is an unpleasant fact, but there is still plenty of value in life to cherish and appreciate.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

"All dressed up and nowhere to go."

LOL!

If I were to get a cryonic suspension, on the side of the container of liquid nitrogen where my frozen body would be, I would want the letters inscribed: "brb".

As fun as those options are, I will probably opt for cremation.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[durangodawood]

LOL!

If I were to get a cryonic suspension, on the side of the container of liquid nitrogen where my frozen body would be, I would want the letters inscribed: "brb".

As fun as those options are, I will probably opt for cremation.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Wrap me in a white sheet. Stick me in the ground.
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Or old Tibetan style, strung up in a tree for vulture food.
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[brinny]

What's the difference between a duck?

ROFL!!!!

 

[brinny]

That sounds like insecurity to me. Perhaps one does need to attain a certain measure of security in oneself in order to face death without experiencing the "carpet-ripping" feeling. Personally, I try to place my main focus on life -- the good memories, the good in the Now, the good plans for whatever time I have left -- rather than to dwell on death. I think that takes some of the edge off.

Life does have sharp edges. This is an unpleasant fact, but there is still plenty of value in life to cherish and appreciate.


eudaimonia,

Mark

what edge does death have?

 

[durangodawood]

what edge does death have?

The loss of a cherished identity called 'me'.
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[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
what edge does death have?

The loss of a cherished identity called 'me'.
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that's an awfully rude to say the least, and rather abrupt loss.

i don't much likes it.

 

[Ayersy]

I'm not really frightened of death. I haven't been since I was a child, really.

 

[durangodawood]

that's an awfully rude to say the least, and rather abrupt loss.

i don't much likes it.

Not abrupt enough for some people who suffer from severe cognitive and physical decline.
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As for rude? That implies a consciousness behind this appointment called death. Just because we cling to our self doesnt make its loss "rude".
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PLUS... we all know it's coming, which *should* mitigate these distressing perceptions.
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[brinny]

that's an awfully rude to say the least, and rather abrupt loss.

i don't much likes it.

Not abrupt enough for some people who suffer from severe cognitive and physical decline.
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As for rude? That implies a consciousness behind this appointment called death. Just because we cling to our self doesnt make its loss "rude".
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PLUS... we all know it's coming, which *should* mitigate these distressing perceptions.
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just thinkin out loud here....my responses are my own thoughts, of course.

 

[durangodawood]

just thinkin out loud here....my responses are my own thoughts, of course.

And mine are my own thoughts. But you are welcome to borrow them if they fit. Heck, keep em if you want.
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[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
just thinkin out loud here....my responses are my own thoughts, of course.

And mine are my own thoughts. But you are welcome to borrow them if they fit. Heck, keep em if you want.
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i'm meditating on them. thank you.

 

[nicknack28]

I couldn't say I see death as abrupt in general. I'd only see abrupt deaths... err... abrupt. If I knew I was going to die and slowly lose body functions in the meantime until my death then it wouldn't be abrupt at all.

Looked at technically, however, we could see the immediate change from consciousness and a beating heart to unconsciousness and a non-beating heart as enormous contrast, and therefore it would be very abrupt. Slow deaths (even in this view) would be abrupt. I'm not self-aware on the cellular level though so I stick to calling only things like death by bus abrupt.

Just a practical view. That all could probably have been said more concisely, but meh.

 

[Booko]

But keep in mind, no serious Unicorninst believes that a unicorn really is a critter with a horn on its head, or that it can only be approached by virgins. Ultimately, unicorns are way beyond us, and the stuff about the horns, the virgins, the clover shaped hooves, or any other of the hippomorphisms (?did I do it right?) are just flawed metaphors to describe what we can never fully grasp.

So what is the significance of the Unicornist belief that one should stick a ripe banana in one's favorite ear?


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