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An addition revision was made along with an internal link for the readers.
The article now reads:
"In the 1700s, there was an increase in the degree of ideological conflict between the atheism and Christianity in the Western World.
Baron d'Holbach (1723–1789) in his 1770 work, The System of Nature denied the existence of God and he was an early proponent of atheism in Europe (The book was published under a pseudonym). In addition, atheism gained further European prominence as a result of revolutionary France in the 1790s."
It links to this section of the Conservapedia History of Atheism article:
The University of Cambridge reports the following historical relationship between atheism and the French Revolution:
“ Between 1700 and 1750 thousands of atheistic clandestine manuscripts circulated across Europe (although still only read by a very small minority)...
The French Revolution (1789-94) would dramatically transform the power relationship between belief and unbelief in Europe: whereas before atheism had been 'high brow', discussed in the cafes and salons of Paris, henceforth it would set itself down among the people. A strident unbelief became a real political factor in public life, as the anticlerical 'dechristianisation' period following the revolution would demonstrate. The impact of the French Revolution in inspiring people to put the irreligious ideas of the Enlightenment into practice would extend beyond France to other European countries, and to the American colonies (although in the latter it would take a deistic rather than atheistic form).
The Reign of Terror of the French Revolution established established a state which was anti-Roman Catholicism/Christian in nature[6] (anti-clerical deism and anti-religious atheism and played a significant role in the French Revolution)[7][8], with the official ideology being the Cult of Reason; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the guillotine.[9]
There is an article on Atheism vs. Christianity at: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_vs._Christianity
Once again, Jesus wins!
The article declares:
According to the University of Cambridge, historically, the "most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power."
Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the "Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin's terminology, militant atheists."
Atheism is an idea which goes against common sense. Hence, its most notable spread was by militant atheists who used force/violence to spread it.
Gene2MemE,
The University of Cambridge material which I cited in previous post post indicates: "Between 1700 and 1750 thousands of atheistic clandestine manuscripts circulated across Europe (although still only read by a very small minority)..."
How small do i have to go? Very, very small? You might have a very high degree of interest in the subject of the history of atheism, but the typical reader does not.
Put another way, some atheists want to use atheist to mean agnostic.
(and you have just explained in a separate post why they might want to do so, just as Liberals now want to be called Progressives.)
By the way, per capita, why do irreligious men beat their wives/girlfriends more? See: http://www.conservapedia.com/Irreligion_and_domestic_violence
Yes, Dawkins certainly pulled a major faux pas here. However, many atheists were also turned off by his comment. However, when you say Dawkins should pay more attention to the Bible, you forget that the Bible definitely puts women in second place. Divinely inspired as it may be, the Bible was written by males living in a sexist culture. Also, all this stuff about atheists beating their wives more seem like so much more right-wing propaganda. If I were you, I wouldn't put much faith in this Conservativepedia or whatever. Also, people are forever giving statistics that wildly conflict. Some say atheism is on the rise, others that it is in demise. I think it is near impossible to tell. Some say that people are returning to the churches; other say that the "nones," individuals who are spiritual but will have nothing to do with organized religion, are really on the rise.You're attempting to write an introduction to the topic 'Atheism vs. Christianity'. I'd hope then that you'd have more than just a passing familiarity with half of the subject matter and would represent it accurately.
I guess this is what happens when you rely on "the best of the public" though.
Quoting Dr. Jonathan Israel, a historian who specalises in early modern European history and the history of the Enlightenment:
"The age of Bayle and of the Huguenot diaspora was also a time when atheistic and near-atheistic texts — rejecting religious authority and revelation — were circulating. Perhaps the most famous example of these clandestine texts, which was circulating from the 1670s, though the first printed version was in 1719, was The Treatise of the Three Impostors or Le Traite des Trois Imposteurs. But there were dozens of others, some of which were circulating on only a very small scale and others of which were actually quite widely diffused in various European countries, often in manuscript form. If they did appear in print those printed versions were suppressed rather harshly by the authorities, so in many cases only small quantities circulated and very small numbers survive today."
Atheism was not as pervasive as it is today (thank you public education and the internet), but it was certainly a topic of scholarly interest and debate among French, English, Swiss, Portuguese, Dutch and German thinkers in the mid 1600s. So much so that English philosopher H More was compelled to write and publish an anti-atheist treatise, in 1653.
I can suggest some reading material for you:
Atheism in France, 1650-172, Alan Charles Kor
At the Origins of Modern Atheism, Michael J. Buckley
Atheism from the Reformation to the Enlightenment, D. Wootton & M. Hunter
It depends where you are in the world. Here in the UK (and Western Europe in general) atheism is on the rise (it's about half the population now) and C of E church attendances have been declining for years.... Some say atheism is on the rise, others that it is in demise. I think it is near impossible to tell. Some say that people are returning to the churches; other say that the "nones," individuals who are spiritual but will have nothing to do with organized religion, are really on the rise.
Then you will need to elucidate why you declare that "Jesus wins!" and cite an article that begins with a section labeled "Atheism vs. Christianity: Number of adherents" (missing sections notwithstanding).To: Davian
The article at http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_vs._Christianity never uses ad populum fallacy. Nowhere in the article does it say that Christianity is more valid than atheism due to its greater numbers.
The writers of the article can state that they can fly if they flap their arms fast enough, but if they fail to deliver with a proper demonstration, I will remain sceptical.The article focuses on the present and historical battle between those who advocate atheism and those who advocate Christianity. And various differences between these ideological camps.
Furthermore, the second paragraph states:
The available evidence and sound reasoning point to Christianity being true and atheism being false (see: Evidence for Christianity and Rebuttals to atheist arguments).
Furthermore, Sweden is one of the most atheistic countries in the world. In Sweden, 81 percent of women said they had been harassed at some point after the age of 15 - compared to the EU average of 55 percent. See: http://www.thelocal.se/20140305/sweden-out-top-in-eu-domestic-violence-league
Cries of bias don't make up for lack of evidence and poor reasoning. Once again, employing the genetic fallacy is an illogical thing to do.
The culture of addressing and speaking about assault, harassment and rape of women may vary extensively across the union countries, and as such skew survey results, the researchers warned. They referenced a Eurobarometer survey from 2010 that found that Bulgaria had much lower rates of physical and sexual violence against women than Sweden did.
"Either overall rates of domestic violence are much lower in Bulgaria than in Sweden; or the fact that people in Bulgaria hear considerably less than people in Sweden from family members and colleagues about domestic violence(...) is an indication that the matter is considered to be private," the report noted.
"In this regard, it could be suggested that in Bulgaria, for example, the subject of violence against women could be considered as something you do not talk about in certain settings and with certain people – including an interviewer who has just entered your home to conduct a survey."
For decades, officials at Bob Jones University told sexual assault victims that they were to blame for their abuse, and to not report it to the police because doing so would damage their families, churches and the university, according to a long-awaited independent report released Thursday.
Bob Jones, an evangelical Christian institution in Greenville, S.C., displayed a “blaming and disparaging” attitude toward abuse victims, according to 56 percent of the 381 current and former students and employees who replied to a confidential survey and said they had knowledge of how the university handled abuse cases. About half the 166 people surveyed who identified themselves as abuse victims said the university actively discouraged them from going to the police.
“I was abused from the ages of 6 to 14 by my grandfather,” one respondent said. “When I went for counseling I was told: ‘Did you repent for your part of the abuse? Did your body respond favorably?’ ” The person reported being told by a university official that going to the police “tore your family apart, and that’s your fault,” and “you love yourself more than you love God.”
Another person said that at Bob Jones, “abuse victims are considered ‘second-rate Christians.’ ” And another said that university staff consistently told victims “that they bore the sin of bitterness and that they should not report abusers.”
Some people quoted in the report said Bob Jones University had shattered their faith, along with their psyches. The university made God out to be “someone who turns his back when children are harmed and then mocks and shames the child further,” one said, while another said, “by the time I left B.J.U., I didn’t think God loved me at all.”
In addition, secular leftism does have the bloodiest history of mankind. It is estimated that in the past 100 years, governments under the banner of atheistic communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.[6] Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987. See: http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder
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