Atheism (3)

[Dave Ellis]

Are you without sin my friend??

Yes, I am... Sin doesn't actually exist

 

[Dave Ellis]

because for every cause there is an effect. When they ate of the seed of sin. The tree of sinful humanity was born. And it is the common heredity,and lot of all human being who are born into this matrix of sin. That's what makes it necessary for GOD to bear our sin's for us in the Person of HIS SON. For only GOD the HIGHER POWER can reverse the consequences of chain reaction of sin,and death through the TREE OF LIFE which HE PLANTED IN HIS SON.

Which is ridiculous..... if he wanted to create humans without Sin, and genuinely forgive the ones that had sinned, he could do so easily.

The whole Jesus story is ridiculous and unnecessary. If God just wanted to fix things, or forgive us, why didn't he?

 

[quatona]

Because GOD is the MOST HIGH GOD,and HE can do what HE want's.

That he can do all he wants is undisputed. Then again, I can criticize it all I want.

Who is the created to shake his fist at the CREATOR??

It´s the creature that god created with the ability to reason.

Would you argue with a drill Sargent who told you to do something??

Why sure.

These petty little comparisons do the GOD who created the UNIVERSE no justice.

Why do you make them, then?

It's like being angry at the sun for being hot.

The problem with being angry at the sun is: the sun - as far as we know - doesn´t act intentionally.

 

[quatona]

All your arguments our based on carnal logic.

Carnal logic, eh? That´s at least quite something - compared to arguments that lack any logic at all.

 

[quatona]

Yeah HE is the only one with that right.

I´m not sure what you mean by "a right" in this context. Who is the authority handing out rights to gods?

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

Which is ridiculous..... if he wanted to create humans without Sin, and genuinely forgive the ones that had sinned, he could do so easily.

The whole Jesus story is ridiculous and unnecessary. If God just wanted to fix things, or forgive us, why didn't he?

Cause shedding HIS own blood for the sake of others is a far more "REAL" demonstration of HIS LOVE.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Cause shedding HIS own blood for the sake of others is a far more "REAL" demonstration of HIS LOVE.

No, it's not.... in fact it's quite hideous.

And since you again refused to address our points, I am going to assume you accept them as valid.

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

Only to proud fools who think they need not the forgiveness of GOD.

 

[Skavau]

Only to proud fools who think they need not the forgiveness of GOD.

No, I don't. Why should I? I have not wronged God. I don't believe God exists.

 

[quatona]

Cause shedding HIS own blood for the sake of others is a far more "REAL" demonstration of HIS LOVE.

Is it - to you?

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

Is it - to you?

YES...

 

[quatona]

YES...

Thanks for your opinion!

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

GOD has supernaturally revealed HIMSELF to me time,and time again. I need no proof of HIS existence. I'm sorry that HE hasn't done that for you'll. I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove the existence of GOD to you'll. That's HIS job,not mine. I know HE exists. I'm at peace with GOD. You'll are the one's who fret over entertaining the thought of GOD. I LOVE thinking upon GOD. As a matter of fact. I was once without GOD,and i have far more peace,and freedom with HIM than i ever did before. You see,I've been on your side of the fence. Shoot me,and GOD are best friends. You'll don't know what your missing out on.

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

Thanks for your opinion!

thank's for lying! If you didn't want to here my opinion. Why ask??

 

[quatona]

thank's for lying! If you didn't want to here my opinion. Why ask??

I asked for your opinion, you gave it to me, I thanked you for it. Where´s a lie involved?

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

I asked for your opinion, you gave it to me, I thanked you for it. Where´s a lie involved?

Well the exclamation mark seemed to suggest otherwise. But sorry for calling you a liar.

 

[quatona]

But sorry for calling you a liar.

No biggie. Should I shed some blood to emphasize my forgiveness?

 

[SeraphimsCherub]

No...but you,and i are hardly JESUS. The need of Divine forgiveness is infinitely greater than our need of human forgiveness. You probably just used your wits to set me up for that question??

 

[quatona]

No...but you,and i are hardly JESUS.

Certainly not, but they say we are called to emulate him.

You probably just used your wits to set me up for that question??

No - you accusing me of lying came totally unexpected. (So did your apology, btw.).
The originally intended point was a completely different one: What makes your taste authoritative?

 

[Belk]

Cause shedding HIS own blood for the sake of others is a far more "REAL" demonstration of HIS LOVE.

Why not just forgive everyone? Why all this complicated blood shedding and need to believe certain things?