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Featured At What Point Do You Think You Are Truly Saved?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by ChristServant, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    The church the apostles established.
     
  2. RickReads

    RickReads Well-Known Member

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    Churches are imperfect, just as people are. There are no commands to blindly trust in doctrines of men.
     
  3. RickReads

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  4. klutedavid

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    Is this the easy path to salvation?

    Joel 2:32
    And it will come about that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Will be saved.

    Acts 2:21
    And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

    Romans 10:13
    For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

    The parable of the sower is still valid of course. Therefore, the calling on the name of the Lord, must be lifelong!
     
  5. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Paul or his disciples post mortem in 2nd Timothy write that all scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching, preaching, rebuking, and training in righteousness - so that the man of God can be equipped for every good work. So if a part of the canon does not fulfill this purpose - does that mean it is not scripture?

    A letter by Peter confirms Paul's epistles are scripture - the list of epistles are not listed.

    There is the promise that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth, there is not a promise that the bible will lead us into all truth.
     
  6. RickReads

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    You gotta be kidding me.

    14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

    17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
     
  7. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Yet people who can't hear, can still receive the gospel.
     
  8. RickReads

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    Preaching was emphasized because only a few were literate back then. Reading it works just fine if you can understand the words. Many can`t.
     
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  9. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    And in countries where the literature is banned, some people meet Jesus in dreams and convert anyway.
     
  10. RickReads

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    Yes, but that is uncommon. My point to you simply is that the Bible affirms itself in many places
    and per the scriptures, some contact with the gospel is necessary in order for faith to be given.
     
  11. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    It is also written in a number of places that God does not show favoritism.

    So what applies to the exception, applies to everyone.
     
  12. Jesus is YHWH

    Jesus is YHWH my Lord and my God ! Supporter

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    and where is that found today ?
     
  13. RickReads

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    You making excuses for not reading your Bible?
     
  14. RickReads

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  15. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    That's a good one.

    (today's study was on patience.)

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  16. RickReads

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    The old saying is praying for patience is a sure way to get it tested.
     
  17. PaulCyp1

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    You are truly saved when you enter Heaven. Until that moment, you have the ability to choose salvation or reject it. Some people live sinful lives, but find God shortly before death, and are saved. Other people live "holy" lives, close to God and active in His church, but reject it in their later years, and forfeit salvation.
     
  18. Michael Collum

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    I think the tests to my patience are the most memorable, so that probably means I'm not all that patient.
     
  19. Jesus is YHWH

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  20. RickReads

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    Statistically, it would be rare for a person to abandon their religion in their later years.
     
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