The first link never mentions photons, and the second one is *yourself*, not an *external* reference that claims that photons have no kinetic energy. Do you even know what a valid (one that actually supports your claim) *external* reference is RC?
Is that something like 5 days and counting and still no *external* support?
Now you you think you have exclusive rights to cite Peratt
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A creationist citing that has never read Darwin's work, but uses a sentence from his work in an effort to claim that evolutionary theory *cannot* happen, when it says *exactly the opposite*, isn't really a rational individual. That's essentially where you stand by trying to cite Peratt's *definition* of electrical discharges in plasma as a reference that claims electrical discharges in plasma are "impossible". You're not even quoting him rationally and you've never read his book!
Anyone can cite Peratt and show that you are wrong about what he wrote:
He wrote nothing of the sort RC. Neither did the Russians. Neither did the Japanese. Dungey didn't claim discharges in plasma are impossible. Bruce did not claim they were impossible. You're essentially just "making up facts" to suit yourself at this point.
You have written your usual dumb demand that I read Peratt's book.
An atheist that comes to a "Christian" website is typically given the advice to read the "Bible", particularly if they fancy themselves as a "skeptic" of the religion. You need not educate yourself on any topic RC, but then why are you here in *this* thread engaging me on the topic of plasma physics? You can't "understand" material without reading it RC.
I do not have to do this because you have quoted everything that he stated about your fantasy that he defined about "electrical dicharges in plasma".
You apparently have a "fantasy" that you know more about plasma physics that Dungey, Bruce, Alfven, Birkeland, Giovanelli, the Russians and the Japanese put together, without *ever reading a book on the topic of plasma physics*. Talk about fantasies. You have your own island apparently.
He says that you are wrong.
No, he says *you* are wrong, along with the Russians, the Japanese, Dungey, Bruce, yada, yada, yada.
The simple fact is the electrical discharges (as Peratt states) happen through the breakdown of a dielectric medium like air or a solid (or a liquid).
They *can* happen that way. They can also happen from *any* fast release of EM field energy, including "reconnection" as Dungey explained to you, not that you cared about what he actually said.
These are the examples that Peratt gives.
He gave *many* examples in the book RC, but you wouldn't know about because you refuse to educate yourself on this topic.
Peratt never gave a definition of electrical discharges in plasma.
Yes, he did:
1 .5 Electrίcal Discharges in Cosmic Plasma
An electrical discharge is a sudden release of electric or magnetic stored energy. This generally occurs when the electromagnetic stress exceeds some threshold for breakdown that is usually determined by small scale properties of the energy transmission medium. As such, discharges are local phenomena and are usually accompanied by violent prαesses such as rapid heating, ionization, the creation of pinched and filamentary conduction channels, particle acceleration, and the generation of prodigious amounts of electromagnetic radiation. As an example, multi-terawatt pulsed-power generators on earth rely on strong electrical discharges to produce intense particle beams, Χrays, and microωανes . Megajoules of energy are electrically stored in capacitor banks, whose volume may encompass 250 m^3 . This energy is then transferred to a discharge regίοn, located many meters from the source, vi α a transmission line.
The discharge region, or load, encompαsses at most a few cubic centimeters of space, and is the site of high-variability, intense, electromagnetic radiatιοη (Figure 1 .2) .On earth, lightning is another example of the discharge mechanism at work where electr-o-static energy is stored in clouds whose volume may be of the order of 3,000 km3. This energy is released in a few cubic meters of the discharge channel.
The aurora is a discharge caused by the bombardment of atoms in the upper atmosphere by 120 keV electrons and 200 keV ions spirιlling down the earth's magnetic field lines at high latitudes . Here, the electric field accelerating the charged particles derιves from plasma moving across the earth's dipole magnetic field lines many earth radii into the magnetosphere .
Peratt never gave any examples of electrical discharges in plasma.
People can read it for themselves RC. You can't rewrite history.
Thus it is a lie to say that he defined or describes electrical discharges in plasma.
The only lie is when you tell yourself you understand a book you've never read, and you know more the Dungey, Bruce, Birkeland the Russians and the Japanese put together on the topic of plasma physics, and electrical discharges in plasma.
But you can make me a liar by answering the questions above - after all you have read his book
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You're doing a fine job without my help RC.
You're an IT guy RC. You don't speak for astronomers like Dungey and physicists like Peratt. You only *think* you can, even though you've never read Peratt's work, and even though your statements are diametrically opposed to what Dungey and Bruce actually wrote! Wow!
Why should I believe the retired IT rather than the Russians and Japanese astronomers RC?