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Didn't say you can go that fast, just that's the speed needed to go 92 Billion Light years in 24 Hours

True. Even the Enterprise on Startrek was typically limited to warp 10 and puttering around inside of our own galaxy.
 
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True. Even the Enterprise on Startrek was typically limited to warp 10 and puttering around inside of our own galaxy.
Threshold notwithstanding, though personally that episode should be purged from canon.
 
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Yep, and only two theories require faster than light speed expansion of a universe full of matter, YEC and Lambda-CDM.

Nope, the expansion is not "faster than the speed of light". The result of the expansion can be apparent faster than speed velocities. There is a big difference between the two.
 
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Science is a beautiful thing.

Remember though, that your eternal life depends on Jesus Christ.
 
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Nope, the expansion is not "faster than the speed of light". The result of the expansion can be apparent faster than speed velocities. There is a big difference between the two.

That is a statement of faith on your part since you can't demonstrate that claim in a lab.
 
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That is a statement of faith on your part since you can't demonstrate that claim in a lab.

I am going to answer this again with a little more depth. Your problem seems to be that you do not know what is and what is not evidence. Not all scientific evidence comes from the laboratory. You tend to believe in ideas that are not supported by evidence. You know that this is wrong. You now seem to be projecting this "sin" of yours upon others, that is called projection.

The "laboratory" for astronomy is the telescope. Various experiments are done with the predictions from theories and the observations can support or overturn theories.

Here is an article that explains a bit why scientists believe that the universe is expanding:

Evidence mounts that the expansion of the Universe is accelerating - physicsworld.com
 
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I am going to answer this again with a little more depth. Your problem seems to be that you do not know what is and what is not evidence. Not all scientific evidence comes from the laboratory.

I love how you give some claims a completely free pass in terms of controlled experimental demonstrations, but somehow you think there is no 'evidence' of God? How does that rationalization work exactly? If the evidence comes from human experiences over the course of human history, somehow it doesn't count? Define "evidence" in terms of cause/effect relationships for me, and explain how your claim about photons gets an automatic free pass in your rationalization?

You tend to believe in ideas that are not supported by evidence.
Which one(s) might those be?

You know that this is wrong. You now seem to be projecting this "sin" of yours upon others, that is called projection.
Apparently that's your gig, not mine.

The "laboratory" for astronomy is the telescope.
That's fine as long as you don't try to tell me you see invisible unicorns flying around in that telescope and start inventing new forces of nature to suit yourself.

Various experiments are done with the predictions from theories and the observations can support or overturn theories.
So, I predict that if God exists, more than half of the population of any given society will probably hold belief in God. Some measurable percentage within that population will claim to "experience" God in very unique ways during their lifetimes. These are my "predictions". Does that work for you?

Here is an article that explains a bit why scientists believe that the universe is expanding:

Evidence mounts that the expansion of the Universe is accelerating - physicsworld.com
The problem is that including movement of objects and inelastic scattering there are already two (three if you count time dilation which I do) perfectly logical and acceptable ways to explain photons redshift already. In terms of pure physics, there absolutely is no need for yet another, let alone *three* other "supernatural" ways to explain the photon redshift phenomenon.

I don't need "God did it' to explain photon redshift. I certainly don't need "invisible God(matter/energy) did it" to explain photon redshift. See the problem in trying to associate *other* supernatural claims to the photon redshift phenomenon?
 
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Science is a beautiful thing.

Remember though, that your eternal life depends on Jesus Christ.
Your voice is just one in the crowd. Until you can distinguish your claim from the myriad of other religions (namely by substantiating it), it's just so much white noise.
 
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I have a perfectly sound method for faster-than-light travel. It's called "Negative Trimecular Vastidian Pro-Hawkwind Alignment".

Okay, well I only have the name right now, but PR is important these days. As soon as I find a pencil that works, it's going to be a completely solid theory.
 
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Did I say that there was no evidence of God? I may have said that there is no scientific evidence of God. Scientific evidence is a special category of evidence. If you wish to learn what scientific evidence is I will be glad to help you.

Which one(s) might those be?

Aren't you one of those "electric universe" believers (ahem massive toning down of the appropriate term). Again, you need to learn what scientific evidence is.

Apparently that's your gig, not mine.

Ninth Commandment warning. You know that is not the case. How many times have I offered to help you people learn? Every time you run away.

That's fine as long as you don't try to tell me you see invisible unicorns flying around in that telescope and start inventing new forces of nature to suit yourself.

Nope, that has not been done. Gravity is the only force that is needed.


Nope, you have to justify why that would be. You are trying to fit observation to a theory and that is not good enough on its own.

For example does your theory explain why so many of those "experiences" are extremely contradictory of other "experiences" and can be used to support very different "gods".


Who is inventing new false forces now? Talk to an astrophysicist. They will tell you why your ideas have not received any traction.

I don't need "God did it' to explain photon redshift. I certainly don't need "invisible God(matter/energy) did it" to explain photon redshift. See the problem in trying to associate *other* supernatural claims to the photon redshift phenomenon?

No, you just need very bad, already debunked physics.
 
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When I was a kid in the 1970's we got a remote control TV. The controllers were different then, just 4 buttons, and they made a loud clicking sound when you pressed them. When my mom would sweep the carpet in front of the TV it would cause the TV to change channels or adjust the volume. How could a straw broom brushed across a short, thin carpet cause this? Could the sweeping have created a sound which duplicated a sound frequency the TV's sensor sensed?
 
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More likely it was caused from the static electricity that built up as the broom brushed across the floor. Similar to when you scuff your feet on a carpet and then touch a door knob. Remote controls do not work by sound, but by infrared frequencies, part of the electromagnetic spectrum. The earlier ones used radio waves instead of IR, which is just another frequency of EM.

We know that fluorescent lights can interfere, due to the EM signals produced.

http://www.emsd.gov.hk/emsd/e_download/pee/infrared_interference_emsdweb.pdf

Static electricity is likely the cause

Static electricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As minute discharges occurred from sweeping the broom across the carpet the EM discharge interfered with the receivers controls, interpreted as channel changes and volume adjustments (merely a specific frequency). Todays equipment is built with tighter controls in the frequency bands due to the number of devices working across the different frequencies.

In the past we were able to only use a very limited bandwidth.

Radio History

But technology has come a long way and we are able to transmit in many more frequencies now.

See below for a basic description of EMF.

Electromagnetic field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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No, you just need very bad, already debunked physics.


Funny, how this debunked physics is the only proven laboratory results.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...JzUWQ29-F5j2oMw&bvm=bv.58187178,d.aWc&cad=rja


http://vixra.org/pdf/1105.0010v1.pdf


So we now have direct laboratory confirmation that plasma induces redshift. And of course 99% of the universe is plasma. So excuse me if I laugh at your claims of debunked science and choose to believe that what 99% of the universe is made of produces redshift, not Fairie Dust entities never once observed or detected and that only live in the minds of astrophysicists because they ignore that 99% of the universe.
 
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Could the sweeping have created a sound which duplicated a sound frequency the TV's sensor sensed?

Presumably, that is correct. Early remotes used ultrasonic frequencies.

"In 1956, Robert Adler developed "Zenith Space Command", a wireless remote. It was mechanical and used ultrasound to change the channel and volume. When the user pushed a button on the remote control, it clicked and struck a bar, hence the term "clicker". Each bar emitted a different frequency and circuits in the television detected this sound. The invention of the transistor made possible cheaper electronic remotes that contained a piezoelectric crystal that was fed by an oscillating electric current at a frequency near or above the upper threshold of human hearing, though still audible to dogs. The receiver contained a microphone attached to a circuit that was tuned to the same frequency. Some problems with this method were that the receiver could be triggered accidentally by naturally occurring noises, and some people could hear the piercing ultrasonic signals. There was an incident in which a toy xylophone changed the channels on such sets because some of the overtones from the xylophone matched the remote's ultrasonic frequency."
 
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Did I say that there was no evidence of God? I may have said that there is no scientific evidence of God. Scientific evidence is a special category of evidence. If you wish to learn what scientific evidence is I will be glad to help you.

Great, I look forward to it. Lets do a little side by side comparison of evidence in the appropriate thread of course:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7584137/

Aren't you one of those "electric universe" believers (ahem massive toning down of the appropriate term). Again, you need to learn what scientific evidence is.
I started a thread on that topic too by the way. You're welcome to add your two cents worth:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7775767/

Ninth Commandment warning. You know that is not the case. How many times have I offered to help you people learn? Every time you run away.
What exactly did you try to "help me learn"? I think if you check around the internet, you'll quickly discover that I never "run away". I've been virtually executed for my heresy a few times, but running away really just isn't my style I'm afraid.

Nope, that has not been done. Gravity is the only force that is needed.
Sorry to burst your bubble but even the mainstream doesn't make such a ridiculous claim. They add stuff like inflation and dark energy.

Nope, you have to justify why that would be. You are trying to fit observation to a theory and that is not good enough on its own.
Considering the fact that supernatural add-ons make up about 95 percent of Lambda-CDM, you're blowing up the irony meter.

The rest of this post looks to be better suited to the be dealt with in the Empirical Theory of God thread and/or the evidence thread. Feel free to start wherever you want, and feel free to 'teach' me about *your personal* definition of evidence.
 
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I suppose you're already looking for 'investors' too.
 
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No, sorry, that is one whackadoodle's work. Again, one article is not enough (or even possilbey two, the first one was a file that I did not allow access to my computer). At least one article in an unknown "peer reviewed" site is not enough. If you want to go by one article you need it in a well respected site.

Try again, try harder.

And the laboratory is not where interstellar tests are done. Scaling is a huge problem. I will check out your second article, but it still seems like you have nothing.
 
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