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That's my philosophy as well. The truth no matter what. I saw a documentary on space time, gravity and all that. It makes God more believable after watching it. It could explain how God always existed. How he could know the future. I'm not a scientist, wish i was because science is fascinating. Netflix is pretty cool though. You can get the universe and how the earth was made and many other documentaries containing all the leading physicists and theories and it makes me believe in God even more when i listen to their discoveries.
Jolly good.

The moon being just the right size and just right distance away from earth and the sun being exactly in the right place and it all being in the only habitable zone in the solar system...fascinating. I don't think it was all a coincidence but it was designed this way.
There are billions of stars in our galaxy, and billions of galaxies in the known universe. That means there are billions of billions of potential worlds where life could form. Even if life requires exceedingly precise conditions to form naturally, there are so many different places in the universe with different conditions that naturally emerging life isn't improbable: it's inevitable.
 
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The moon being just the right size and just right distance away from earth and the sun being exactly in the right place and it all being in the only habitable zone in the solar system...fascinating. I don't think it was all a coincidence but it was designed this way.
Considering that the moon is moving away from the earth at a few centimetres per year means that it was not designed to be where it is at present and remain there too. Please have the patience to watch the entire video.
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=MTcIZaZzsgg
 
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Sorry i don't have sound on my PC, so i didn't watch the video. I can't convince you that God designed and created the universe any more than you could convince me that it wasn't because the moon is slowly moving away from us, we are moving away from the sun as well i think, all part of the design. This universe is temporary, god never intended it to last forever. All i can say is life was no accident. It seems well designed to me. Can you look at a clock and its complex mechanical inner workings and say it happened by accident? It appears as if the universe being so complex that many things could go wrong but don't. The same thing can be said of the earth as well.

What of all the billions of people, why are they here? accident? Are they now dead forever, recycled into the earth to never be seen again? Billions of people just die and that's all? I don't have enough faith to believe this.

I believe in science and God. My thinking isn't limited by what scientist tell me to think, i listen to God as well. Scientists once thought the world was flat and you could sail off the edge of it. They said Global warming was man made and they falsified Data in order to prove this lie. How is it, that they now know everything and we don't need God the creator anymore?

Science has not disproved God, this in itself is proof to me that he exists. Sherlock Holmes always said if you rule out everything, the thing that remains must be the answer. God still remains.

Why wouldn't you believe in God as a scientist? Where is the scientific Data disproving his existence? Doesn't God provide answers where there are none? It's illogical to say God doesn't exist without evidence.
 
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Originally Posted by sirender Revelation is VERY clear about about what will come to pass.
Can you give us a quick summary of the key events?
The Gospel accounts of the Olivet Discourse never mentions the moon turning to blood.

That is mentioned in Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20 and Revelation 6:12.
Typical Jewish Old Testament Hebrew symbology.
Pretty awsome :)

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=48397062#post48397062
Symbolism of Moon to blood Joel 2 question

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before of to come of day of YHVH, the great, and the being feared.
[Acts 2:20/Revelation 6:12]

Young) Matthew 24:29 `And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken;

Young) Mark 13:24 `But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Young) Luke 21:25 `And there shall be signs in sun, and moon, and stars, and on the land [is] distress of nations with perplexity, sea and billow roaring;

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be being turned into darkness and the moon into blood before to be coming day of Lord, the great and manifested/appearance;

Reve 6:12 And I saw when it opens the seal, the sixth, and a quaking, great, became. And the sun became black as sackcloth, hairy. And the moon became as blood.
[Joel 2:31/Acts 2:20]
 
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In my opinion the seas are rouring...tsunamis and hurricanes and flooding.

There are signs in the sun, moon and stars that cause distress among nations. (Global warming being blamed on solar flares now, killer asteroids or meteors,)

Israel hasn't been a nation for 2000 years. All of a sudden a mere 60 years ago, Israel becomes a Nation again, along with these signs. It seems to fit.
 
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In my opinion the seas are rouring...tsunamis and hurricanes and flooding.
Phenomena which have been occurring for millions of years.

There are signs in the sun, moon and stars that cause distress among nations.
Really? The Moon and the stars are causing "distress among nations"? Could you elaborate?

(Global warming being blamed on solar flares now,
Science disagrees.

killer asteroids or meteors,)
I'm sorry?

Israel hasn't been a nation for 2000 years. All of a sudden a mere 60 years ago, Israel becomes a Nation again, along with these signs. It seems to fit.[/quote]
Of course it seems to fit. But people have been predicting the End of Days for 2000+ years. I'm not going to hold my breath that you, personally, are right.
 
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Sorry i don't have sound on my PC, so i didn't watch the video. I can't convince you that God designed and created the universe any more than you could convince me that it wasn't because the moon is slowly moving away from us, we are moving away from the sun as well i think, all part of the design.
You could say that about anything. What would you accept as evidence that the universe was not designed? Our biology contains demonstratble flaws - evolution not explains these, but it requires these. But why would an intelligent designer create biology with such flaws?

This universe is temporary, god never intended it to last forever. All i can say is life was no accident. It seems well designed to me. Can you look at a clock and its complex mechanical inner workings and say it happened by accident? It appears as if the universe being so complex that many things could go wrong but don't. The same thing can be said of the earth as well.
But you have no basis for saying "The complexity of a clock points to its designer, therefore, any complexity points to a designer". It's entirely possible, and indeed readily demonstrable, that complexity doesn't always need a designer. It's fallacious to jump to such a conclusion.

What of all the billions of people, why are they here? accident? Are they now dead forever, recycled into the earth to never be seen again? Billions of people just die and that's all? I don't have enough faith to believe this.
You're repeating that line that's so often circulated by Creationists - "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" - but it's gone through so many iterations, I don't think you understand what it means. It doesn't take faith to believe that, when people die, they just die. It's just an observation: when people die, their bodies will always remain dead. What happens to their minds is anyone's guess - science says nothing about what, if anything, happens to one's conciousness after death.

I believe in science and God. My thinking isn't limited by what scientist tell me to think, i listen to God as well. Scientists once thought the world was flat and you could sail off the edge of it.
No, they didn't. We've known the Earth is round for approximately 4000 years, and it was science which told us this fact. Moreover, modern Flat Earthers are religious people - they take their beliefs from the Bible or the Qu'ran.

They said Global warming was man made and they falsified Data in order to prove this lie.
The climategate fiasco has not demolished the entire mountain of evidence for anthropogenic climate change - it was deplorable, yes, but one hoax is not going to shake a rather well-established field.

How is it, that they now know everything and we don't need God the creator anymore? Science has not disproved God, this in itself is proof to me that he exists. Sherlock Holmes always said if you rule out everything, the thing that remains must be the answer. God still remains. Why wouldn't you believe in God as a scientist? Where is the scientific Data disproving his existence? Doesn't God provide answers where there are none? It's illogical to say God doesn't exist without evidence.
Indeed. As a scientist, I believe only in the evidence. If there is no evidence for something, I will not believe it. So it should be obvious why I do not believe in God: there is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence.

By all means, let's use this thread to discuss the evidence for the existence of God.

What, in your opinion, demonstrates that God exists? Let's not get side-tracked with the above, let's stick to that question: what evidence is there that God exists?
 
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By all means, let's use this thread to discuss the evidence for the existence of God.
Nononononono, I want this thread to be about physics, not philosophy. Please make a new thread or I tell the mods that he is derailing this topic. I enjoy this thread because of the fresh air that I revise instead breathing the same old, conversational topics.
 
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All i can say is life was no accident.
That is exactly what Evolution states too. It is a shame you do not have sound on your PC otherwise you would have heard it stated in the video.

It seems well designed to me. Can you look at a clock and its complex mechanical inner workings and say it happened by accident? It appears as if the universe being so complex that many things could go wrong but don't. The same thing can be said of the earth as well.
This is also debunked in the video and it was also debunked in a court of law. Just because you find something to be complicated it does not mean it was designed.

What of all the billions of people, why are they here? accident? Are they now dead forever, recycled into the earth to never be seen again? Billions of people just die and that's all? I don't have enough faith to believe this.
Ever heard of "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust"?

I believe in science and God. My thinking isn't limited by what scientist tell me to think, i listen to God as well. Scientists once thought the world was flat and you could sail off the edge of it. They said Global warming was man made and they falsified Data in order to prove this lie. How is it, that they now know everything and we don't need God the creator anymore?
You cannot say you believe in science and make such claims that dismiss totally the scientific methodology and rules.

Science has not disproved God, this in itself is proof to me that he exists. Sherlock Holmes always said if you rule out everything, the thing that remains must be the answer. God still remains.
Anything that is unfalsifiable does not belong in the realm of science. You cannot prove that the Flying Spaghetti monster or pink unicorns or the multi headed god of the Hindus do not exist; So you also believe in them too?
Do you see the flaw in your reasoning here?

Why wouldn't you believe in God as a scientist? Where is the scientific Data disproving his existence? Doesn't God provide answers where there are none? It's illogical to say God doesn't exist without evidence.
Show me proof that all the deities worshipped by people worldwide and all the mythical creatures that people believe in do not exist and I shall recant.
 
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Nononononono, I want this thread to be about physics, not philosophy. Please make a new thread or I tell the mods that he is derailing this topic. I enjoy this thread because of the fresh air that I revise instead breathing the same old, conversational topics.
The topic is, "Ask a physicist anything". Anything. Talking about the existence of God is on-topic, and I'll thank you to stop policing my (Maxwell511's?) thread.
 
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I find it interesting how many people do not tolerate my opinion.
Really? Who's not tolerating your opinion? All I or anyone else has done is comment and criticise your opinion - that is not intolerance, that's scientific scrutiny. Tolerating your opinion doesn't mean we can't criticise it.

Intolerance is hate. Hate is an emotion. Emotion is not logical and therefore not physics either.
On the contrary, emotions can be very logical. It is logical for a mother to love her child, for a society to despise a sociopath, etc. Intolerance is borne out of ignorance and fear of the unknown, though. Fortunately, there's none of that here.
 
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I find it interesting how many people do not tolerate my opinion. Intolerance is hate. Hate is an emotion. Emotion is not logical and therefore not physics either.
One can disagree with you and still tolerate you. Do not confuse disagreement with intolerance!
 
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