No, I'm not putting any constraints on the question whatever. You asked what "we" meant in the question, and I said pick whatever you like and state what your pick was when you answer the question.
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As AV wrote, if it contradicts the bible, it's wrong.
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No, I'm not putting any constraints on the question whatever. You asked what "we" meant in the question, and I said pick whatever you like and state what your pick was when you answer the question.
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Vainglorious, I don't know how well you know me, but I can say, speaking from 19 months of experience here, and in my humble opinion, not one atheist or agnostic here is qualified to critique creationism. All you guys do is ask the same questions over and over; and despite numerous explanations and threads from me, you guys still don't have a clue as to where I'm coming from in explaining how God created this universe. I have never - (and I mean never) - in 19 months of solidly explaining myself over and over again - seen one person acknowledge what I'm talking about. Two of you have come close, but in just a short time, have reverted back to making subtle mistakes in trying to explain Genesis 1.
Believe me --- it takes the Holy Spirit to hammer the understanding home --- and some people are living proof of that.
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An understanding of what really happened. Like how ex nihilo creation works, for starters. Then there's the fact that everyone wants to saunter outside of Genesis One, to critique what occurred inside of Genesis One, and you can't do that. For instance, claiming that God created this universe imperfect, or that He deceived people, those sorts of things. Bringing up the Fall, the Flood, a "talking snake" - (it was neither "talking" nor a "snake"), Lucifer, Satan, the sons of God, sin, etc. doesn't cut it when discussing a one-time event that occurred only in Genesis 1.
I [usually] never let a person I'm discussing the Creation with, take me outside of Genesis 1. It's a mistake that can lead to all sorts of topics that don't apply.
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But you have no clue as to how ex nihilo creation works, anymore than you understand how "embedded" age works!
People only bring up such things as a consequence of your statements about Genesis. So don't blame them.
Genesis never mentions Lucifer or Satan... and neither do any other books in the Old Testament. Why is that? Because he wasn't invented by the Jews until after the Old testament was written down. Why didn't the OT mention the Ice Age that supposedly followed the Flood? Because the human writers of the OT knew nothing about the Ice Age and had no divine revelation to inform them about it.
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Split Rock
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You need to have the Holy Spirit guide you, and you cannot have the Holy Spirit guide you until you believe in creationism. Catch 22!
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The problem with this statement is that Genesis 1 does not say that the Creation was perfect.
[bible]Genesis 1:31[/bible]
Notice that it says "very good" which is not the same thing as perfect. The word "perfect" appears in Genesis exactly twice. Once in reference to Noah (6:9) and once in reference to Abram (17:1). Now, why do you expect us to stick to Genesis 1 when you can't even do it yourself?
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You mean for about the 4[sup]th[/sup] time?
If the topic is the accuracy of the Bible, I'll be more than happy to go there; but if the topic is creationism, then I will not go there; and I would counsel others not to go there as well.
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AV. I will join you.
If you can prove to me there is a God and its Your God, with out using the Bible.
If you can prove to me there is a God and its Your God, with out using the Bible.
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Sorry about the wording. How about; how do you know that the Bible is 100% literally true and the the KJV is the purest version of it? And as a bonus question, why should I believe you?
I was using "we" to refer to all people, not just me and you. I don't think that the Bible is true.
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Which ex nihilo creation? In the p-creation account there is no such beast.
1In the beginning when God created the heavens [shamayim] and the earth,
2 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.
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8 God called the dome Sky [shamayim].
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10 God called the dry land Earth,
2 the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.
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8 God called the dome Sky [shamayim].
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10 God called the dry land Earth,
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The bible itself is full of contradictions.
It's possible for something to contradict a particular part of the bible, but not the entire thing, in my opinion. Since i don't really see the bible as cohesive.
It's possible for something to contradict a particular part of the bible, but not the entire thing, in my opinion. Since i don't really see the bible as cohesive.
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Just a quick question GreyCat,
do you think you would have been a 'Wiccan' if your parents had not been 'Wiccan'?
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