Arnold Murray's Teaching

[Watchman_2]

Status of the beast at the time of John, 1st century
In Revelation 17:3. 3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Thank you. I stand corrected.

Status of the beast at the beginning of the end times 7 years
In Revelation 12: 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev. 12:1-5 is past. V. 1-4 were in the first age.

Status of the beast with 42 months left in the 7 years
In Revelation 13:1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The time was shortened. See Mat. 24:22, Rev. 9:5.

In the kjv, Revelation 17 doesn't say anything about "non-earthly" kings. 17:12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Read it again...they received power from Satan. See Rev. 12:9. Satan's angels are cast out of heaven with Satan. See Rev. 17:13. They have like mind and give their power onto Satan. Surely, they are not any human kings; but, they are the fallen angels.

Until you get the facts correct, there is no point in going through the rest of your analysis as it is premised upon fallacy.

 

[Watchman_2]

we are not getting anywhere

True. Until you see your error, there is no point in going over it again.

 

[POSTIOS]

True. Until you see your error, there is no point in going over it again.

it is your error.

on one hand, you say Satan is not here till the 6th vial, and then u say 5th vial....double talk.

he's here in vial one.

now, i have no problem with the first 4 vials being poured on those with the mark, to get them to repent as you say.

but let's be honest with the text.
that first vial is poured out after Satan is already here seducing the potential bride...they took the mark and worship another.

so the vials do not get poured before Satan is here defacto.


Brother, u r the 1 in error, in this case.
pray about it.

 

[Watchman_2]

it is your error.

on one hand, you say Satan is not here till the 6th vial, and then u say 5th vial....double talk.

You have a reading impediment. I wrote that Satan is not revealed until the 6th vial. Satan and his angels are cast out at the same time. See Rev. 12:9.

he's here in vial one.

Wrong! Satan is revealed at the 6th vial. One comes ahead of six.

now, i have no problem with the first 4 vials being poured on those with the mark, to get them to repent as you say.

but let's be honest with the text.
that first vial is poured out after Satan is already here seducing the potential bride...they took the mark and worship another.

Wrong!

so the vials do not get poured before Satan is here defacto.

Wrong! 666 means 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trump, and 6th vial.

Brother, u r the 1 in error, in this case.
pray about it.

Wrong!

It is so simple that a child could understand it. Since one comes before six, then something that takes place prior to event one could not possibly be performed, defacto, by some entity that does not appear until event 6.

 

[POSTIOS]

You have a reading impediment.

not. you are either a liar or do not even know what you write.
for now, i'll choose the latter.

I will quote you.

I wrote that Satan is not revealed until the 6th vial. Satan and his angels are cast out at the same time. See Rev. 12:9.

so, you say multiple things...
you say first 4 are pre Satan.
where does that leave the last 3?
plus, i said i'd quote you saying 5th, as well as 6th. from post 109 of this thred.

you wrote:

Well, you are wrong. Satan, and his angels, are not on the scene until vials 5 and 6;
​

Wrong! Satan is revealed at the 6th vial. One comes ahead of six.

so does 1 come ahead of 6 in the seals.
Again, i know what you say. prove it.
you cant even make up your mind on vial 5 or 6???

Wrong!

lol.

Wrong! 666 means 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trump, and 6th vial.

i know what you say, prove it.
Most of the imagery in Rev is found in the OT.
Surely 666 is there as well.
You are seemingly too stubburn to check it out.

Wrong!

lol

It is so simple that a child could understand it.

The requirements for the first vial's recipients are laid out for us all to read. The link to Rev13's 2nd beaast is undeniable.
believe what you will.

Since one comes before six, then something that takes place prior to event one could not possibly be performed, defacto, by some entity that does not appear until event 6.

perhaps the same application that you use in the seals, might apply here too...ever think!

you are simply in error.

 

[Watchman_2]

not. you are either a liar or do not even know what you write.
for now, i'll choose the latter.

I will quote you.



so, you say multiple things...
you say first 4 are pre Satan.
where does that leave the last 3?
plus, i said i'd quote you saying 5th, as well as 6th. from post 109 of this thred.

you wrote:

Well, you are wrong. Satan, and his angels, are not on the scene until vials 5 and 6;
​

so does 1 come ahead of 6 in the seals.
Again, i know what you say. prove it.
you cant even make up your mind on vial 5 or 6???



lol.



i know what you say, prove it.
Most of the imagery in Rev is found in the OT.
Surely 666 is there as well.
You are seemingly too stubburn to check it out.


lol


The requirements for the first vial's recipients are laid out for us all to read. The link to Rev13's 2nd beaast is undeniable.
believe what you will.


perhaps the same application that you use in the seals, might apply here too...ever think!

you are simply in error.

All that you represent here is a continual circular agrument. Your comment regarding 'proof' of 666 is a demonstration thereof.

You either can identify the 665 prior prophetic events leading to Satan's appearance or not. I have challenged you to provide those 665 prophetic events. So far, you have not provided squat!

Absent proof of 665 prior prophetic events, 666 means 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trumpet, and 6th vial. After all, one is to 'count' the number of the beast. And, there just happens to be these three groupings of 7 events identified in the book of Revelation.

Now, if you have not come to grip with your error regarding '666', it would be an entire waste of time discussing anything else relative to it. I will always go back to my position. And, if you cannot recognize your error, we will always be at an impasse due to your ignorance.

So, you either accept the Truth regarding 666 or not. It is your choice whether to continue living in ignorance or whether you are a seeker of Truth.

 

[LastSeven]

What we have here is either a failure to effectively support a position, or a failure to effectively read and understand that position. Probably both.

It's sometimes comical and sometimes annoying to read this thread.

I must say however, that all the accusations of "wrong" being thrown out do come across as arrogant, which is the opposite of what the word teaches us to be. You can't both be right, but you could both be humble.

 

[John Christian V]

"but "we" all existed in some form then"

>No you did not

>This is another Murray tampering .... there is no scriptural support for his story and much to refute the idea

>The forum already has ample evidence that Murray is a false teacher

>And it is obvious that you follow this man by your continued discussion

>I am finished with this thread and will no longer add anything else .... my purpose is completed

He won't even attempt to discuss all of zeke37's points?

 

[Watchman_2]

He won't even attempt to discuss all of zeke37's points?

It seems that he accomplished his mission -- spreading lies and showing his own Bible illiteracy if he agrees with the copy/paste material in the OP.

 

[POSTIOS]

All that you represent here is a continual circular agrument. Your comment regarding 'proof' of 666 is a demonstration thereof.

You either can identify the 665 prior prophetic events leading to Satan's appearance or not. I have challenged you to provide those 665 prophetic events. So far, you have not provided squat!

absolutely not the point.
counting 665 prophetic events is YOUR understanding...
I dont even know were that line of thought comes from.
its ike u made it up.

YOU say, 6th seal (or is it the first) 6th trump (and 5th right?) and 6th vial (and 5th s well) are about Satan.

you teach 1st and 6th seal, 5th and 6th trump, 5th and 6th vial.

yet u teach 666, and wonder why folks question you.

seems comical to me too. Clarifying your position seems to be difficult.

you did not even admit that you taught 5th and 6th vial's...defacto, in post 109.

Absent proof of 665 prior prophetic events, 666 means 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trumpet, and 6th vial. After all, one is to 'count' the number of the beast. And, there just happens to be these three groupings of 7 events identified in the book of Revelation.

again, this is YOUR understanding, not proof. I want proof....
and going back to the OT and reading the relevant 666 types seems logical....
and yet you chastize me for it.

Now, if you have not come to grip with your error regarding '666', it would be an entire waste of time discussing anything else relative to it. I will always go back to my position. And, if you cannot recognize your error, we will always be at an impasse due to your ignorance.

well, the point is not to believe a man, just because he says a thing...

lets prove it...perhaps u are wrong.
you seem to have a problem with this, and your arrogance is seemingly keeping you from even exploring possible truths.

if it is true, we should be able to prove it...and so far your words do not do that.

u say a thing....without research. Let's research 666 in the3 bible and see what we come up with instead of arguing over PM's and your possible interp.

and to clarify, i never even said that i don't beliee it is the 6th seal, trump, vial....
i just wanna be sure....i have been taught that for years, but I have never proved it...I dont think it can be proven within the 6th seal/trump/vial.
I think we have to go to Solomon and Daniel to figure it out.

So, you either accept the Truth regarding 666 or not. It is your choice whether to continue living in ignorance or whether you are a seeker of Truth.

the choice is not to believe you or not...
the choice is to either dilligently search the scriptures for the pertinant info,so you can be edified...or to believe what someone says about scripture without searching it out.

I choose to search for myself...hope u understand.
u have failed to prove anything in this discussion, except for your own opinion and blatent error, which u wont even acknowledge

you certainly did say, 5th and 6th vial....post 109




my point was to question when the 1st vial is poured out.
Rev13 shows the one who FORCES the mark, and who is worshipped...

i really don't know why you have a problem with this....
seems strait forward to most.

the first vial has to be poured out after Satan is here defaccto,
and the people take his mark and worship the beast. Rev16:2.

these are the requirements.
all you have shown is your increadibly poor Christian attitude, which you have had for years...
even if you are doctrinally correct on most issues.

you lack compassion, among other traits.

I study where you study, and you have called me a bunch of names here in this thread...and elevated yourself in some sort of a superiority complex.

you have tried to belittle me, umpteen times.....repent...pray...

and while praying, ask God if the other mentionings of 666 in the bible are relevant....lol.

 

[Watchman_2]

absolutely not the point.
counting 665 prophetic events is YOUR understanding...
I dont even know were that line of thought comes from.
its ike u made it up.

YOU say, 6th seal (or is it the first) 6th trump (and 5th right?) and 6th vial (and 5th s well) are about Satan.

you teach 1st and 6th seal, 5th and 6th trump, 5th and 6th vial.

yet u teach 666, and wonder why folks question you.

seems comical to me too. Clarifying your position seems to be difficult.

you did not even admit that you taught 5th and 6th vial's...defacto, in post 109.


again, this is YOUR understanding, not proof. I want proof....
and going back to the OT and reading the relevant 666 types seems logical....
and yet you chastize me for it.

well, the point is not to believe a man, just because he says a thing...

lets prove it...perhaps u are wrong.
you seem to have a problem with this, and your arrogance is seemingly keeping you from even exploring possible truths.

if it is true, we should be able to prove it...and so far your words do not do that.

u say a thing....without research. Let's research 666 in the3 bible and see what we come up with instead of arguing over PM's and your possible interp.

and to clarify, i never even said that i don't beliee it is the 6th seal, trump, vial....
i just wanna be sure....i have been taught that for years, but I have never proved it...I dont think it can be proven within the 6th seal/trump/vial.
I think we have to go to Solomon and Daniel to figure it out.



the choice is not to believe you or not...
the choice is to either dilligently search the scriptures for the pertinant info,so you can be edified...or to believe what someone says about scripture without searching it out.

I choose to search for myself...hope u understand.
u have failed to prove anything in this discussion, except for your own opinion and blatent error, which u wont even acknowledge

you certainly did say, 5th and 6th vial....post 109




my point was to question when the 1st vial is poured out.
Rev13 shows the one who FORCES the mark, and who is worshipped...

i really don't know why you have a problem with this....
seems strait forward to most.

the first vial has to be poured out after Satan is here defaccto,
and the people take his mark and worship the beast. Rev16:2.

these are the requirements.
all you have shown is your increadibly poor Christian attitude, which you have had for years...
even if you are doctrinally correct on most issues.

you lack compassion, among other traits.

I study where you study, and you have called me a bunch of names here in this thread...and elevated yourself in some sort of a superiority complex.

you have tried to belittle me, umpteen times.....repent...pray...

and while praying, ask God if the other mentionings of 666 in the bible are relevant....lol.

I do not have time for your insincerity. I showed you exactly why your 666 belief was errant. If you are unwilling to accept that 666 stands for the 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trump, and 6th vial as PM teaches, then the burden of proof is yours to detail the 665 events leading to Satan's appearance. There are only those two possibilities due to the word 'count'. Absent your acknowledgement of error, there was no point in going through anything else.

I spent all kinds of time replying to you only to see you reply that I needed to prove 666 again, as if I never proved it to you. Such behavior is unbecoming of a Bible student and disgusts me to no end!

And, please, never refer to me as your brother. My sisters and brothers in Christ are all very intelligent and do not resort to circular arguments.

 

[Douggg]

Rev. 12:1-5 is past. V. 1-4 were in the first age.

Verse 1-5 is a historical preamble to the final 7 years, which is verses 6-17. There is no "first age" in verses 1-4.

Verse 1 simply identifies the woman as Israel, because the symbolism is
found in Genesis 37:9, Jospeh's dream of the Israel.

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

In verse 4, it just means that a third of the angels rebelled with Satan and that they wanted killed Jesus before he was born.

The time was shortened. See Mat. 24:22, Rev. 9:5.

What has the tormenting of the locust got to do with shortening the 7 years to a lesser timeframe?

Read it again...they received power from Satan. See Rev. 12:9. Satan's angels are cast out of heaven with Satan. See Rev. 17:13. They have like mind and give their power onto Satan. Surely, they are not any human kings; but, they are the fallen angels.

In Revelation 12:9, Satan and his angels are cast down to earth at the midpoint of the 7 years. So? What's that got to do with the the kings that come out of the fourth empire, the end times Roman Empire?

The ten kings coming out of the end times Roman Empire, the EU, give their power and strength unto the beast,

17:13These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Daniel 7:23-24 says the ten kings come out of the fourth earthly empire. Not ten kings fallen from heaven.

23Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The ten kings are already in place when the Antichrist man arises after them.

 

[POSTIOS]

I am sincere

you are the one using circular argument.

you say the 1st vial cant be when Satan is here, because of what you believe about 666 and the 6th vial.

you also say the 1st seal is the 6th, and that the 5th and 6th trump and the 5th and 6th vial is his appearance

seriously....from that you decifer 666. No, you did not prove anything of the sort.




all i am doing is questioning the "when" of vial 1. That's it!
you say one thing, and i read another in Rev13...hence our discussion.

whether 666 is as PM teaches (as I still believe, btw) has nothing to do with the "when" of vial 1.

it is very easily concievable that the 1st vial is poured on those that have a direct deling with Satan defacto,
as Rev13 suggests with the mentioning of the mark that they took and the worshiping of him.

it is possible that these first few vials are akin to the two olive trees, and the WHEN of their plagues...

nothing but arrogance keeps you from this truth.



and please stop implying that either there is 666 events or 6th seal 6th trump 6th vial, as if there were not other choices.

i did not like your attitude on factnet, but i respected your doctine for obvious reasons.

your attitude sucks here too...
and its pretty hard to teach others anything, when they dont respect you for what you display.

you did not even acknowledge your lie/mistake/forgotten words, when you said that Satan was here in the 5th vial, revealed in post 109

and you call me insincere?

 

[Douggg]

If you are unwilling to accept that 666 stands for the 6th seal [chronologically], 6th trump, and 6th vial as PM teaches,

Adonikam descendants were counted to be 666. His last three sons are identified in the bible by name....Eliphelet, Jeiel, and Shemaiah. Which if those named sons is number 666 of his 666 descendants? That son's name could be the name of the end times Antichrist.

Why was the bible specific to say Adonikam's "last" three sons? If it just said the three sons of Adonikam, they could be any of the 666 descendants. By saying the last three sons, it is narrowed down to 664, 665, 666. If you look at the long list of the genealogy coming out of Babylon in Ezra 8, it just says "the sons of ____". It is only for Adonikam that it identified that those are his "last" three sons.

Ezra 8:13And of the last sons of Adonikam, whose names are these, Eliphelet, Jeiel, and Shemaiah, and with them threescore males.

Regarding the mark, no one has the mark yet because it is tied to buying and selling. Since no-one is required to show their hand and/or forehead to make purchases, the mark in not in effect, whatever the mark turns out to be.

 

[Watchman_2]

Verse 1-5 is a historical preamble to the final 7 years, which is verses 6-17. There is no "first age" in verses 1-4.

Wrong! You have not acknowledged your gross error regarding the first age yet.

4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

In verse 4, it just means that a third of the angels rebelled with Satan and that they wanted killed Jesus before he was born.

When did Satan rebel?? It was during the first age! Verses 1-4 are in the first age.

What marks the beginning of this second age in Rev. 12?? It is v. 5 -

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
​

The man child who rules all nations with a rod of iron is none other than Jesus Christ! See Rev. 2:27, 19:15. This event has taken place in this second age, but it has already taken place as Christ is at the right hand side of God at this moment.

So, lets get your acknowledgment of your error regarding the first 4 verses on Rev. 12. They all took place in the first age.

What has the tormenting of the locust got to do with shortening the 7 years to a lesser timeframe?

As Daniel 9:27 teaches, Satan's tribulation is divided into two halves. The tormenting by the locusts, which is the first beast of Rev. 13, comprises the first half. This is the one-world order ruled by 10 fallen angels. The one-world order of the fallen angels also has power to make war against the saints [Rev. 13:7].

So, when the time is shortened for the elect's sake [Mat. 24:22] to 5 months [Rev. 9:5], that was done to minimize the time in which God's saints [elect] are persecuted. Hence, it would appear that the entire 84 months is reduced to 5 months total, split into two 2.5 month halves.

In Revelation 12:9, Satan and his angels are cast down to earth at the midpoint of the 7 years. So? What's that got to do with the the kings that come out of the fourth empire, the end times Roman Empire?

Wrong! There is no endtime Roman Empire.

The ten kings comi

ng out of the end times Roman Empire, the EU, give their power and strength unto the beast,

Wrong! They are fallen angels.

Daniel 7:23-24 says the ten kings come out of the fourth earthly empire. Not ten kings fallen from heaven.

23Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The ten kings are already in place when the Antichrist man arises after them.

Undoubtedly, humanity is working toward a one-world gov't. However, when it comes into existence, it will be ruled by 10 fallen angels. The antichrist is not a human -- it is Satan. The ten kings [fallen angels] are ruling when Satan appears [is revealed] on the scene.

 

[Watchman_2]

I am sincere

No -- you are the furthest thing from sincere. You don't agree with PM's teaching that 666 stands for the 6th seal [chronologically], the 6th trump, and the 6th vial. Yet, you have not provided the 665 events which one would need to 'count' in order to support your belief.

If you are never going to acknowledge your error regarding 666, just say so. I don't care what you believe -- it is your right to believe as you see fit. I just don't want to waste time trying to educate a person that is unedifiable.

 

[Watchman_2]

Adonikam descendants were counted to be 666. His last three sons are identified in the bible by name....Eliphelet, Jeiel, and Shemaiah. Which if those named sons is number 666 of his 666 descendants? That son's name could be the name of the end times Antichrist.

Why was the bible specific to say Adonikam's "last" three sons? If it just said the three sons of Adonikam, they could be any of the 666 descendants. By saying the last three sons, it is narrowed down to 664, 665, 666. If you look at the long list of the genealogy coming out of Babylon in Ezra 8, it just says "the sons of ____". It is only for Adonikam that it identified that those are his "last" three sons.

Ezra 8:13And of the last sons of Adonikam, whose names are these, Eliphelet, Jeiel, and Shemaiah, and with them threescore males.

The etymology of the word 'count' in Rev. 13:18 determines that it is events in time that one is counting -- not sons, or anything else.

Regarding the mark, no one has the mark yet because it is tied to buying and selling. Since no-one is required to show their hand and/or forehead to make purchases, the mark in not in effect, whatever the mark turns out to be.

Wrong! See Rev. 16:1. Folks have the mark before the first vial of God's wrath is dispensed. Satan's fallen angels are ruling at the 5th vial and Satan, defacto, is on the scene at the 6th vial. The mark is not tied to buying and selling -- buying and selling is tied to the mark. See 2 Thes. 2, Eze. 13:18-23. Folks can take the mark anytime.

 

[Douggg]

Wrong! You have not acknowledged your gross error regarding the first age yet.

When did Satan rebel?? It was during the first age! Verses 1-4 are in the first age.

What marks the beginning of this second age in Rev. 12?? It is v. 5 -

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. ​

Are you saying that BC is the "first age" and AD is the "second age" ?
​

 

[Douggg]

The etymology of the word 'count' in Rev. 13:18 determines that it is events in time that one is counting -- not sons, or anything else.

It is the number of his name, not the number of events. It says "name" in the Bible. 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Do you disagree that one of Adonikam's last three sons was number 666?
What is the name of his last son?

Wrong! See Rev. 16:1. Folks have the mark before the first vial of God's wrath is dispensed. Satan's fallen angels are ruling at the 5th vial and Satan, defacto, is on the scene at the 6th vial. The mark is not tied to buying and selling -- buying and selling is tied to the mark. See 2 Thes. 2, Eze. 13:18-23. Folks can take the mark anytime.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Are you saying some people have the mark in their "right" hand right now?

How did it get there?

 

[Douggg]

As Daniel 9:27 teaches, Satan's tribulation is divided into two halves. The tormenting by the locusts, which is the first beast of Rev. 13, comprises the first half. This is the one-world order ruled by 10 fallen angels. The one-world order of the fallen angels also has power to make war against the saints [Rev. 13:7].

Daniel 9:27 says he (the prince who shall come, the Antichrist man) will confirm the covenant for one week - 7 years. In Deuteronomy 31:9-10 below, what is the interval for confirming the covenant by reading the law before all Israel?

Deuteronmy 31:9And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.
10And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles,
11When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing.

So, when the time is shortened for the elect's sake [Mat. 24:22] to 5 months [Rev. 9:5], that was done to minimize the time in which God's saints [elect] are persecuted. Hence, it would appear that the entire 84 months is reduced to 5 months total, split into two 2.5 month halves.

In Revelation 12:6 and 12:14, the "1260 days" plus "the time, times, and half times" adds up to 7 years.

Wrong! There is no endtime Roman Empire.

What empire, following the Greek empire, is followed by the legs of iron in the Daniel 2 statue image? And of what empire were the soldiers who put Jesus on the cross?

Undoubtedly, humanity is working toward a one-world gov't. However, when it comes into existence, it will be ruled by 10 fallen angels. The antichrist is not a human -- it is Satan. The ten kings [fallen angels] are ruling when Satan appears [is revealed] on the scene.

Satan comes up among ten kings of the fourth empire in Daniel 7?

The Antichrist and the False prophet are cast into the lake of fire at the beginning of the 1000 years. Satan is not cast into the lake of fire until the end of the 1000 years.

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.