The true bible student, in a hundred years, wouldn't come to the conclusion of what arnold murry teaches (serpent seed) simply because the true bible student would study everything about Gen 3 and find no teaching whatsoever of satan seducing Eve into having sex, which is an impossibility for spirit beings (angels) whether true to God or fallen angels
You say that because you are unlearned in Bible and are not a 'true' Bible student. See Post No. 241 for the background, in English, which proves that Satan impregnated the woman in the Garden.
Perhaps, you have never read Gen. 6, where the fallen angels impregnated the females of the Adamic race. Your ignorance appears to be the result of your misguided claim that angels are simply 'spirit beings'. You should go do your homework prior to making such false statements.
satan BEGUILED Eve.................
Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
the hebrew word for beguiled
H5377
נשׁא
nâshâ'
naw-shaw'
A primitive root; to lead astray, that is, (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly.
if Moses had intended to convey satan actually having intercourse with Eve then he would have used the word yada, not nasha
..........and Moses was simply clear in his witness of the genesis that cain came from flesh, not from some absurd teaching that he came from a spirit being and a human
the english definition of beguile or beguiled.............
be·guile tr.v. be·guiled, be·guil·ing, be·guiles. 1. To deceive by guile; delude. See Synonyms at deceive. 2. To take away from by or as if by guile; cheat: a disease that has beguiled me of strength. 3. To distract the attention of; divert:
notice the main synonym is DECEIVE and to make it even more clear the definition for guile ...............guile n. 1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit.
notice also within the definition of beguile another meaning is to DISTRACT the attention of................and as anyone can read that's exactly what satan's intentions were, to distract Eve away from God's teaching about obeying him and focus on other aspects........aspects that appealed to human nature, the fruit she saw as pleasant looking , pleasant enough to eat , also satan lying to her that neither she or her husband adam would die if they did choose to disobey God, not only would they continue to live if they ate the fruit but it would "make them wise" again appealing to the senses of humans, "I won't die, it's good for food and not only that it's "brain food".........I'll be smarter"..........................
very sneaky of satan huh.................and that is exactly what scripture throughout warns about his devices..........it all goes to deception, not sex[/quote]
Moses is not the author of Genesis -- God is. The account is given in such manner by God to distinguish we true Bible students from the rest of you. See Post No. 241. All your blustering and bloviating will not alter the end result in that which took place in Gen. 3:6 resulted in the woman's pregnancy by Satan [3:14-15].
If you look at the context of the woman's statement regarding being 'beguiled' by Satan, you should have been drawn back to the interchange in 3:1-5. Of course, Satan is a liar and the father of lies. However, one also sees the woman embellishing the truth as well in v. 3.
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
The word rendered 'touch' has sexual connotation. See Strong's -
H5060
נגע
nâga‛
naw-gah'
A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.): - beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.
Hence, in being 'beguiled' by Satan, one can see that Eve is being sexually seduced. Apostle Paul confirms this as well.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
The word rendered 'beguiled' in Strong's -
G1818
ἐξαπατάω
exapataō
ex-ap-at-ah'-o
From G1537 and G538; to seduce wholly: - beguile, deceive.
Certainly, 'wholly seduced' can mean about anything from being Madoff'd to sex. But, what it does mean is that one cannot ascertain, by the woman's use of the word rendered 'beguiled' in Gen. 3:13, that which took place in Gen. 3:6. The beguilement was in the converstaion between the woman and Satan in 3:1-5.
In order to know that which took place in 3:6, one utilizes 3:7 plus the resultant of the act, which is detailed in 3:14-15 and confirmed in 3:20.
arnold murry explicitly claims the bible doesn't say that Cain was Adam's offspring.............
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew (yada) Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. ......the same word yada is used again when Abel was conceived, showing more proof that Cain was Adam's son by Eve.
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew (yada) his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
apparently Murry's glasses were clouded when he was reading the beginning of chapter 4................Adam "knew".....that's the hebrew word yada for a man and woman having intercourse, in this simple case , man and wife........exactly what God had intended and what God had blessed......be fruitful and multiply...............God gave no such blessing to carry over to include satan also...............
See Post No. 241. Obviously, your eyes are clouded! The woman already had her name 'Eve' before Adam ever had sex with her. Adam named her 'Eve' in 3:20 because she was already pregnant!
Eve confirmed through the birth of Cain God's blessing of being fruitful and multiply........."I have gotten a man from the LORD"
again a true bible student knows that LORD in caps is the tetragrammaton.............God himself blessing Eve's womb.............had Eve "gotten" a man from satan then Moses would have written Hasatan or satawn............never has the tetragrammaton been used to refer to satan in scripture..........................EVER !
Nonsense! According to your logic, the fact that God created woman to bear children has some bearing as to who is the sire of the children born.
the true bible student would have this verse to give even more understanding..........
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
from ONE BLOOD ,ie, from Adam and Eve, God created ALL MEN........... blood is flesh only, the life is in the blood (flesh) immortals are not flesh or blood, they are composed of spirit.........and spirit does not procreate to create life, spirit has life inherent.
LOL...Once again, you prove to all that you are not a 'true' Bible student. The rendering 'blood' is not in the original text of Acts 17:26. The 'one' refers to the dust/clay of the ground. We all sustain our bodies from food grown out of the ground. This scripture has no bearing on who sired who in Gen. 3.
a human is satan's seed by their actions (sin) not by procreation..........
The word 'seed' does not mean that. See Strong's -
H2233
זרע
zera‛
zeh'-rah
From H2232; seed; figuratively fruit, plant, sowing time, posterity: - X carnally, child, fruitful, seed (-time), sowing-time.
In Gen. 3:15, it means 'posterity' -- nothing else!
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Thank you -- more proof of what I am stating. Those Pharisees were the direct offspring of Satan, the father of lies, through his son Cain, the first murderer.
the true bible student isn't the idiot when they hear arnold murray's racist teaching of "kenites" and "serpent seed".........they are true because when they study to show themselves approved to God they have revealed to them through God's word that arnold murray is a false teacher and his doctrine is a prime example of the imaginations of men running amuck and those foolish people that actually believe what came from these false teachers' imaginations
I agree that the true bible student is not an idiot -- however, you are far removed from being a 'true' bible student. In fact, all that you have accomplished in your lengthy post is demonstrate your Bible illiteracy.
