Are You as Blessed as Mary?

[IamAdopted]

And this clearly contradicts Scripture as Jesus asked those who do the Will of the Father are his brothers, sisters and mother.

Mary said let your will be done.

Peace

As did Paul, Stephen Abraham, So the list carries on. Everyone that says Yes to Christ are blessed. Those who carry on the will of the Father still today are blessed.

 

[Benedicta00]

As did Paul, Stephen Abraham, So the list carries on. Everyone that says Yes to Christ are blessed. Those who carry on the will of the Father still today are blessed.

Excuse me but have we been advocating something different?

 

[Proeliator]

His bond with His mother was broken when He died Bene.. He is now sitting on the right hand side of the Father. No longer on earth to have an earthly mother.. He is complete in Himself.. His completion and bond is with His Father. He shows us this over and over and over when He speaks.. He doesn't speak of His earthly mother.. He speaks of His Father..

Now, this just seems wrong to me. All throughout the New Testament, there is instances that very specifically point out Christs humanity. Christ was God become man. Period. He experienced the entire human gambit. Where do you get this crazy idea that He threw away all humanity when He left this earth? The bond of love between 2 people is NEVER broken by death. Otherwise no-one would ever visit a cemetery. Your point is beyond ludicrous. If you remove the human side from Christ, you also take away the entire sacrifice of the cross.

 

[IamAdopted]

Now, this just seems wrong to me. All throughout the New Testament, there is instances that very specifically point out Christs humanity. Christ was God become man. Period. He experienced the entire human gambit. Where do you get this crazy idea that He threw away all humanity when He left this earth? The bond of love between 2 people is NEVER broken by death. Otherwise no-one would ever visit a cemetery. Your point is beyond ludicrous. If you remove the human side from Christ, you also take away the entire sacrifice of the cross.

Yes we carry the Love of the Lost one with us.. Part of our Humanity. Christ was human. But He was also divine.. He was also before He came. So when He went back to His Throne on High He went back to His rightful place.. Therefore bringing His humanity to completion.. Full Circle.. He was not only her son He was her King.. Her savior..

 

[StTherese]

But...was Christ fully human before the incarnation in which was made possible by the obedience of Mary?

 

[Uphill Battle]

According to God maybe as blessed...

Luke 11:27-28
Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

This was the reason for this thread.

I always chuckle at "paps" but anywho, this is my perspective.

Mary was most blessed among woman for bearing Christ. Christ said that more blessed still are those who hear and obey.... something that we have every reason t believe Mary did as well, even after her obdience to God regarding the conception of Jesus by the HS. So, she would qualify on 2 counts, wheras we would qualify on 1. I see nothing in the biblical record that would indicate she did not hold Jesus as Lord.

 

[sunlover1]

I always chuckle at "paps" but anywho, this is my perspective.

Mary was most blessed among woman for bearing Christ. Christ said that more blessed still are those who hear and obey.... something that we have every reason t believe Mary did as well, even after her obdience to God regarding the conception of Jesus by the HS. So, she would qualify on 2 counts, wheras we would qualify on 1. I see nothing in the biblical record that would indicate she did not hold Jesus as Lord.

 

[SunMessenger]

I always chuckle at "paps" but anywho, this is my perspective.

Mary was most blessed among woman for bearing Christ. Christ said that more blessed still are those who hear and obey.... something that we have every reason t believe Mary did as well, even after her obdience to God regarding the conception of Jesus by the HS. So, she would qualify on 2 counts, wheras we would qualify on 1. I see nothing in the biblical record that would indicate she did not hold Jesus as Lord.

I agree !!!

 

[IamAdopted]

But...was Christ fully human before the incarnation in which was made possible by the obedience of Mary?

This is what we have been saying..Mary was His earthly Mother.. Not His heavenly one. He did not have a mother before He came to earth and He does not have a mother now He sits on the right hand side of God the Father. He did have a Mother while on earth. Her name is Mary. She bore Him and she raised Him up intil the time Jesus set out on His own to fulfill what He came to do from the Father.. She Loved Him and He loved Her. This is not being spoke against. She remembered Him and Loved Him after His death. He bore Her sins upon the cross as He did the sins of mankind. Did He love her. Well of course He loved her.. He is bound in love to each one of His followers.. Every one of Us..

 

[Proeliator]

This is what we have been saying..Mary was His earthly Mother.. Not His heavenly one. He did not have a mother before He came to earth and He does not have a mother now He sits on the right hand side of God the Father. He did have a Mother while on earth. Her name is Mary. She bore Him and she raised Him up intil the time Jesus set out on His own to fulfill what He came to do from the Father.. She Loved Him and He loved Her. This is not being spoke against. She remembered Him and Loved Him after His death. He bore Her sins upon the cross as He did the sins of mankind. Did He love her. Well of course He loved her.. He is bound in love to each one of His followers.. Every one of Us..

Complete nonsense. She never ceased being His mother, anymore than any other women would cease being someones mother if they die before her. By the reasoning your using here, Christ ceased being human the moment He died. The miracle of Jesus Christ is that He is God AND man both; so that the debt of death could be paid. You deny not only the human side of Him, but the validity of His sacrifice as well. You may want to talk to your pastor for some guidance, explain to him what you have been saying here.

 

[IamAdopted]

Complete nonsense. She never ceased being His mother, anymore than any other women would cease being someones mother if they die before her. By the reasoning your using here, Christ ceased being human the moment He died. The miracle of Jesus Christ is that He is God AND man both; so that the debt of death could be paid. You deny not only the human side of Him, but the validity of His sacrifice as well. You may want to talk to your pastor for some guidance, explain to him what you have been saying here.

I have never once denied Jesus humanity nor His Death on the cross. His sacrafice on the Cross is His reason for becoming man. The spotless Lamb.. He was God before He became Man.. He always was and He always will be.. He became flesh and He dwelt among us. He died a horrid death and He rose up from the dead. Then He ascended to sit on the right Hand side of The Father..So tell me which part of this denies His humanity? The fact that He would not longer be Mary's son but her King eternal? He is the Word of God that was made flesh.. He was before He was born.. His name was given Immanuel God is with us.. His name is Jesus. Messiah.. So now tell me again how I have denied the humanity of Christ?

 

[IamAdopted]

When Jesus rose from the dead in His bodily Form He told Mary not to touch Him for His body had not yet been glorifed.. Yes Jesus is fully man and fully God but His kingdom is not of this earth.. There is no Marriage in Heaven.. We will all be as brothers and sisters.. With God as our Father..This is what I am speaking of here..Heaven is not set up as Earth is..

 

[StTherese]

"A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and on her head a crown of twelve stars."

Rev 12:1

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

HOW do you figure that is Mary? Revelation hasn't happened yet...it is IN the future....I don't get that one.

 

[Proeliator]

When Jesus rose from the dead in His bodily Form He told Mary not to touch Him for His body had not yet been glorifed.. Yes Jesus is fully man and fully God but His kingdom is not of this earth.. There is no Marriage in Heaven.. We will all be as brothers and sisters.. With God as our Father..This is what I am speaking of here..Heaven is not set up as Earth is..

I'm so glad that you know how heaven is setup. I am forced to make the assumption that you have died and been there since you claim such knowledge. And here is where the issue is:

He did not have a mother before He came to earth and He does not have a mother now He sits on the right hand side of God the Father.

The only way He would not have a mother anymore know that He has ascended, is if He no longer had humanity. Part of humanity is your parents, and they don't ever stop being your parents, not even after one has died.

 

[IamAdopted]

I'm so glad that you know how heaven is setup. I am forced to make the assumption that you have died and been there since you claim such knowledge. And here is where the issue is:



The only way He would not have a mother anymore know that He has ascended, is if He no longer had humanity. Part of humanity is your parents, and they don't ever stop being your parents, not even after one has died.

How do you figure? There is no marriage in Heaven. Therefore there is not mother and father.. You have to have marriage to have mother and father.. Are you saying that Jesus is Human and is Heaven? We will be like the angels.. Not Human.. You do read your bible do you not to know all of this? It is written in the bible.

 

[Proeliator]

[bible]Matthew 19:4-6[/bible]

That seems pretty direct, that marriage is forever, not ending. Our relationship to God is compared to marriage many times in Scripture. Does our relationship with Him end when we die?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

How do you figure? There is no marriage in Heaven. Therefore there is not mother and father.. You have to have marriage to have mother and father.. Are you saying that Jesus is Human and is Heaven? We will be like the angels.. Not Human.. You do read your bible do you not to know all of this? It is written in the bible.

LOL, no they aren't allowed...read other thread....

 

[IamAdopted]

[bible]Matthew 19:4-6[/bible]

That seems pretty direct, that marriage is forever, not ending. Our relationship to God is compared to marriage many times in Scripture. Does our relationship with Him end when we die?

UUUHHH Matthew 22 Jesus speaking here.

29Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

No Marriage in Heaven. No mothers or Fathers in heaven Only One Father and that is my Mighty God..

 

[Prodigal7]

I think it's ridiculous to even consider being as blessed as Mary and I'm not Catholic.