Are different Sabbaths true?

[Leaf473]

Brother, there is no dateline associated with the Sabbath other than its cycle having begun at its origin of creation in Eden. Only the weekly cycle that goes around the earth has a dateline associated with its creation in Eden. The Sabbath is separate from the week, falling in Jerusalem half a day before the seventh day of the week. What I mean is that there is no day before the Sabbath or after the Sabbath, as it falls on the weekly cycle that revolves around the earth. The Sabbath is God's rest that stands alone and separate from the creation week in Eden as the weekly cycle revolves around the earth.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you.

No, not associated with the Sabbath, associated with changing from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden. Then from the second day to the third day, and so on to the seventh Day.

That change happens at sunrise in eden, which is also sunset in Jerusalem.

Psalm 128
May the Lord bless you out of Zion, and may you see the good of Jerusalem all the days of your life.

Also united in discussing the scriptures in an edifying way!

 

[guevaraj]

No, not associated with the Sabbath, associated with changing from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden. Then from the second day to the third day, and so on to the seventh Day. That change happens at sunrise in eden, which is also sunset in Jerusalem.

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday December 30, 2022 at 9:44 am EST! Joshua was unable to separate the Sabbath from the week in Jerusalem to give Judaism God's true weekdays in Jerusalem from morning to morning. The rest day occurring both in Eden from morning to morning and in Jerusalem from evening to evening is true only of God's rest on the Sabbath and not true of any day of the week: days of the week all fall in Jerusalem from morning to morning. The Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week. The Sabbath in Jerusalem falls half a day before the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem because the Sabbath is separate from the week. A day of rest fixed in the time zone of creation that does not circle the earth with the week. For both the week and the Sabbath there is only one dateline found at the origin of creation in Eden. There is no dateline in Jerusalem.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

Others besides me have noticed that the days with Manna were from morning to morning in the following video.

The video highlights that quail in the evening for a whole month was not mentioned that morning when Moses informed them to get a double portion of Manna to save for tomorrow and then on the next day's morning to eat what they had saved, because there would not be any Manna that morning.

That evening vast numbers of quail flew in and covered the camp. And the next morning the area around the camp was wet with dew. When the dew evaporated, a flaky substance as fine as frost blanketed the ground... On the sixth day, they gathered twice as much as usual—four quarts for each person instead of two. Then all the leaders of the community came and asked Moses for an explanation. He told them, “This is what the LORD commanded: Tomorrow will be a day of complete rest, a holy Sabbath day set apart for the LORD. So bake or boil as much as you want today, and set aside what is left for tomorrow.” So they put some aside until morning, just as Moses had commanded. And in the morning the leftover food was wholesome and good, without maggots or odor. Moses said, “Eat this food today, for today is a Sabbath day dedicated to the LORD. There will be no food on the ground today. (Exodus 16:13-14, 22-25 NLT)​

No mention was made of the quail that they later ate that evening because the first thing that would not be found the next day would be the Manna, because the next day began in the morning. The video highlights that the quail in the evening was not used to mark the next day, but Manna in the morning was used to mark the next day, which therefore obviously started in the morning and not in the evening.

“And say to the people, ‘Purify yourselves, for tomorrow you will have meat to eat. You were whining, and the LORD heard you when you cried, “Oh, for some meat! We were better off in Egypt!” Now the LORD will give you meat, and you will have to eat it. And it won’t be for just a day or two, or for five or ten or even twenty. You will eat it for a whole month until you gag and are sick of it. For you have rejected the LORD, who is here among you, and you have whined to him, saying, “Why did we ever leave Egypt?”’” (Numbers 11:18-20 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday December 30, 2022 at 9:44 am EST! Joshua was unable to separate the Sabbath from the week in Jerusalem to give Judaism God's true weekdays in Jerusalem from morning to morning. The rest day occurring both in Eden from morning to morning and in Jerusalem from evening to evening is true only of God's rest on the Sabbath and not true of any day of the week: days of the week all fall in Jerusalem from morning to morning. The Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week. The Sabbath in Jerusalem falls half a day before the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem because the Sabbath is separate from the week. A day of rest fixed in the time zone of creation that does not circle the earth with the week. For both the week and the Sabbath there is only one dateline found at the origin of creation in Eden. There is no dateline in Jerusalem.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

Others besides me have noticed that the days with Manna were from morning to morning in the following video.

The video highlights that quail in the evening for a whole month was not mentioned that morning when Moses informed them to get a double portion of Manna to save for tomorrow and then on the next day's morning to eat what they had saved, because there would not be any Manna that morning.

That evening vast numbers of quail flew in and covered the camp. And the next morning the area around the camp was wet with dew. When the dew evaporated, a flaky substance as fine as frost blanketed the ground... On the sixth day, they gathered twice as much as usual—four quarts for each person instead of two. Then all the leaders of the community came and asked Moses for an explanation. He told them, “This is what the LORD commanded: Tomorrow will be a day of complete rest, a holy Sabbath day set apart for the LORD. So bake or boil as much as you want today, and set aside what is left for tomorrow.” So they put some aside until morning, just as Moses had commanded. And in the morning the leftover food was wholesome and good, without maggots or odor. Moses said, “Eat this food today, for today is a Sabbath day dedicated to the LORD. There will be no food on the ground today. (Exodus 16:13-14, 22-25 NLT)​

No mention was made of the quail that they later ate that evening because the first thing that would not be found the next day would be the Manna, because the next day began in the morning. The video highlights that the quail in the evening was not used to mark the next day, but Manna in the morning was used to mark the next day, which therefore obviously started in the morning and not in the evening.

“And say to the people, ‘Purify yourselves, for tomorrow you will have meat to eat. You were whining, and the LORD heard you when you cried, “Oh, for some meat! We were better off in Egypt!” Now the LORD will give you meat, and you will have to eat it. And it won’t be for just a day or two, or for five or ten or even twenty. You will eat it for a whole month until you gag and are sick of it. For you have rejected the LORD, who is here among you, and you have whined to him, saying, “Why did we ever leave Egypt?”’” (Numbers 11:18-20 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you.

Brother, that's right, not associated with a day of the week in Jerusalem.

It's associated with changing from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden.

Since it's a day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden, and since those days change when the sun sets in Jerusalem, the sun setting in Jerusalem forms a kind of dateline.

Also united in discussing the scriptures in an edifying way!

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you. Brother, that's right, not associated with a day of the week in Jerusalem. It's associated with changing from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden. Since it's a day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden, and since those days change when the sun sets in Jerusalem, the sun setting in Jerusalem forms a kind of dateline. Also united in discussing the scriptures in an edifying way!

Brother, happy Sabbath, starting this Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:49 am EST! Perhaps you can understand why Jerusalem is not God's Date Line when compared to the Greenwich meridian, which is also not the Date Line when it is used to point to the Date Line on the other side of the world. Greenwich is a false prime meridian, taking the spotlight from the true prime Meridian it recognized was on the other side of the world, when it shifted its location slightly because few people live on the site of the Date Line to protest its slight change of the tradition of the week found in all of us from the beginning. This tradition of the week found in all of us from the beginning is found in Judaism taking their wrong understanding of the Sabbath with them all over the world before the British established their own prime meridian to still the spotlight from the true prime meridian that comes from the beginning.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, starting this Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:49 am EST! Perhaps you can understand why Jerusalem is not God's Date Line when compared to the Greenwich meridian, which is also not the Date Line when it is used to point to the Date Line on the other side of the world. Greenwich is a false prime meridian, taking the spotlight from the true prime Meridian it recognized was on the other side of the world, when it shifted its location slightly because few people live on the site of the Date Line to protest its slight change of the tradition of the week found in all of us from the beginning. This tradition of the week found in all of us from the beginning is found in Judaism taking their wrong understanding of the Sabbath with them all over the world before the British established their own prime meridian to still the spotlight from the true prime meridian that comes from the beginning.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you.

That's right, not God's date line, but a kind of date line marking the change from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden. And then the second day to the third day, and so on.

Also united in discussing the scriptures in an edifying way!

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you. That's right, not God's date line, but a kind of date line marking the change from the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the second day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden. And then the second day to the third day, and so on. Also united in discussing the scriptures in an edifying way!

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 13, 2023 at 9:55 am EST! There can only be one date line in everyone's background according to the Bible's common origin for all human beings as descendants of Adam and Eve. A date line shared by everyone from the beginning is at our origin in Eden, where God established the week.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

The date line is where the change from one day to another takes place, inconsistent with the rotation of the earth. Inconsistent with the rotation of the earth, the date changes on the other side of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is not a date line because it is not the place on the earth where the day changes, inconsistent with the rotation of the earth, as shown in the following map.

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 13, 2023 at 9:55 am EST! There can only be one date line in everyone's background according to the Bible's common origin for all human beings as descendants of Adam and Eve. A date line shared by everyone from the beginning is at our origin in Eden, where God established the week.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

The date line is where the change from one day to another takes place, inconsistent with the rotation of the earth. Inconsistent with the rotation of the earth, the date changes on the other side of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is not a date line because it is not the place on the earth where the day changes, inconsistent with the rotation of the earth, as shown in the following map.

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, may the face of the Lord shine on you.

Maybe we're using the word "date" differently. I would say that "the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden" is a date.

When the date changes from the sixth day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the seventh day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden, the Sun is setting in Jerusalem.

Amen to being united! Let us speak "...only what is good for building others up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear."

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, may the face of the Lord shine on you. Maybe we're using the word "date" differently. I would say that "the first day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden" is a date. When the date changes from the sixth day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden to the seventh day of the origin of the week of creation in Eden, the Sun is setting in Jerusalem. Amen to being united! Let us speak "...only what is good for building others up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear."

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 20, 2023 at 10:01 am EST! The Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week. The Sabbath in Jerusalem falls half a day before the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem because the Sabbath is separate from the week.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

God established the days from morning to morning, in the special case of the first day from first light to light again in the morning and subsequent days from morning to morning.

Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and MORNING came, marking the first day. (Genesis 1:3-5 NLT)​

Every translation has wrongly assumed that God's expression: "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way of referring to the seventh day of the creation week that we call Saturday.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 20, 2023 at 10:01 am EST! The Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week. The Sabbath in Jerusalem falls half a day before the seventh day of the week in Jerusalem because the Sabbath is separate from the week.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

God established the days from morning to morning, in the special case of the first day from first light to light again in the morning and subsequent days from morning to morning.

Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and MORNING came, marking the first day. (Genesis 1:3-5 NLT)​

Every translation has wrongly assumed that God's expression: "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way of referring to the seventh day of the creation week that we call Saturday.

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, may the face of the Lord shine on you.

Yes, the Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week.

We know that the Sabbath is the seventh day,
"Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest."

So yes, not the seventh day of the week, but the seventh day of creation in Eden.

Amen to being united! Let us speak "...only what is good for building others up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear."

 

[guevaraj]

Brother, may the face of the Lord shine on you. Yes, the Sabbath is what God named His rest on the seventh day of creation in Eden and not what He named the seventh day of the week. We know that the Sabbath is the seventh day, "Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest." So yes, not the seventh day of the week, but the seventh day of creation in Eden. Amen to being united! Let us speak "...only what is good for building others up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear."

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 27, 2023 at 10:08 am EST! Are you ready to accept that we love God by obeying the Eleven Commandments as written?

Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” (John 14:21 NLT)​

Jesus gave the young man one more than the Ten Commandments, adding the new Eleventh Commandment to "follow" Jesus' example.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

May I be found faithful to my call to share God's word and not my own!

But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them? And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent? That is why the Scriptures say, “How beautiful are the feet of messengers who bring good news!” (Romans 10:14-15 NLT)​

Since these are not my words, they will "accomplish" and "prosper", preparing many for the soon return of Jesus.

“The rain and snow come down from the heavens and stay on the ground to water the earth. They cause the grain to grow, producing seed for the farmer and bread for the hungry. It is the same with my word. I send it out, and it always produces fruit. It will accomplish all I want it to, and it will prosper everywhere I send it. (Isaiah 55:10-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday January 27, 2023 at 10:08 am EST! Are you ready to accept that we love God by obeying the Eleven Commandments as written?

Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” (John 14:21 NLT)​

Jesus gave the young man one more than the Ten Commandments, adding the new Eleventh Commandment to "follow" Jesus' example.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

May I be found faithful to my call to share God's word and not my own!

But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them? And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent? That is why the Scriptures say, “How beautiful are the feet of messengers who bring good news!” (Romans 10:14-15 NLT)​

Since these are not my words, they will "accomplish" and "prosper", preparing many for the soon return of Jesus.

“The rain and snow come down from the heavens and stay on the ground to water the earth. They cause the grain to grow, producing seed for the farmer and bread for the hungry. It is the same with my word. I send it out, and it always produces fruit. It will accomplish all I want it to, and it will prosper everywhere I send it. (Isaiah 55:10-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you!

Amen to sharing God's word! This was on my mind just today:
“If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink! He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.”

United in one hope!