ARE ALL THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT?

[SabbathBlessings]

The Ten Commandments are definitely a part of the Law of Moses.

This is specifically shown to us in Romans. "You shall not covet," is the Tenth Commandment, and Paul includes it in the Law of Moses.

Where does it say the law of Moses in these verses?

Romans 7:7-8 "What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead."

Paul knew the difference

1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain.” Is it oxen God is concerned about?

Ephesians 2:15 he (the Lord of the Sabbath) has abolished the Law with its commandments and ordinances, so that he might create in himself a single new person out of the two, thereby making peace, Mark 2:28

Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath, abolished the Sabbath Laws.

It does not say this. These are your words, not God’s. Also the Catholic version is not what the original Text says. The Sabbath commandment was not “contained in ordinances” Deut 4:13 this was what was written in the law of Moses set outside the ark of the covenant as a witness against Deut 31:24-26

New King James Version
having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,

New American Standard Bible
by abolishing in His flesh the hostility, which is the Law composed of commandments expressed in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two one new person, in this way establishing peace;

NASB 1995
by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

NASB 1977
by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

I am a Christian, therefore I worship on Sunday, the Lord's Day,

A Christian means being a follower of Christ. Jesus kept the Sabbath, the Holy Day of the Lord Isa 58:13 Luke 4:16 John 15:10 and is our example to follow. 1 John 2:6 1 Peter 2:21-22

which is what he taught his followers to do before he ascended into heaven.

No Scripture says this.

We've known this and practiced this command of Jesus for about 2000 years in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.

No Scripture says this

This following historical document also shows us that the Church has worshiped God on Sundays since Jesus' resurrection from the dead.

Justin Martyr FIRST APOLOGY, circa 153-155 A.D., CHAPTER LXVII -- WEEKLY WORSHIP OF THE CHRISTIANS. ​

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And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He (Jesus) taught them these things, ​

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I do not follow man-made doctrine over God’s Word.

 

[Jan001]

For Sabbath Blessings

RE: God promised not to alter Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-19.

God did not break his covenant between God and man. The Israelites broke the covenant. That is why God's son made a new covenant between God and man. Jesus, who is both God and man, mediated a new covenant between God and man and he is its everlasting surety. Hebrews 7:22


Matthew 5:17-18“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled/finished the Law of Moses by his death on the cross. John 19:28-30, Luke 24:44

What was the heaven and earth of the Jews? It was their temple. Jesus prophesied that it would pass away in their own generation. It did, in 70 AD.

Matthew 24:1-2 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” ....................... 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Jesus prophesied that the heaven and earth of the Jews (their temple) would pass away in their own (this) generation. It did. Two thousand years later, his words concerning this temple destruction have not passed away, and they never will.

All of Matthew 24:1-34 was fulfilled before the end of 70 AD. It concerned the destruction of Jerusalem, its temple, and its people. It is not a prophecy that is still to be fulfilled.

 

[Jan001]

Where does it say the law of Moses in these verses?

Romans 7 is about the Law of Moses.

Paul knew the difference

1 Corinthians 9:9
For it is written in the law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain.” Is it oxen God is concerned about?

In the OT, yes, oxen must not be forced to tread the grain without being able to partake of it for the strength it needs to do its job.

The Sabbath commandment was not “contained in ordinances” Deut 4:13 this was what was written in the law of Moses set outside the ark of the covenant as a witness against Deut 31:24-26

The Sabbath commandment and its accompanying ordinances were known to be part of the Law of Moses. It was given to the Israelites as a sign between them and God. It was never given to the Gentile nations.

Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Paul assumes his audience knows that the Ten Commandments are part of the Law of Moses. He quotes #10 of the Ten Commandments and he definitely is speaking about it as being part of the Law of Moses.

Romans 7:7-8:
"What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead"

Luke 16:16
“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

The Law of Moses and the Sabbath were for the Israelites/Jews under the first covenant, not for the Christians under the New Covenant.

Galatians 3:23-25 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Romans 7 is about the Law of Moses.

You stating so, doesn't make it Scripture. Especially when Jesus quoted from the Ten Commandments and called it the commandment of God and Mat 15:3-4 and considering He is the Author and its His Testimony, my faith is in His teachings.

The Sabbath commandment and its accompanying ordinances were known to be part of the Law of Moses.

It was known to be the Ten Commandments Deut 4:13- God's covenant, God's commandments thus saith the Lord Exo 20:6 The law that Moses wrote was beside the ark of the covenant- outside as a witness against Deut 31:24-26 for breaking what was inside God's Holy and Eternal Law as it is what man will be judged by Rev 11:18-19 and I would not want to remove one jot or tittle on what God covers under His mercy seat, which sits the Ten Commandments, God's own Testimony Exo 31:18

It was given to the Israelites as a sign between them and God. It was never given to the Gentile nations.

I have addressed this before and I do not believe you are reading the responses, or perhaps, which I pray is not the case, just not interested in what the Bible actually has to say. In this case what the Lord has to say.


Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”


According to the Lord, the Sabbath is doing justice and righteousness, which is the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 He blesses the man who keeps the Sabbath, also for the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles) who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him and love His name (love Him) everyone who keeps from breaking the Sabbath and hold fast His covenant He will bring to His holy mountain and will be a house of prayer for ALL NATIONS which means for everyone or those who do not rebel against His voice. He relates those who defile the Sabbath as doing evil the opposite of doing justice and righteousness.

Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Yes, the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people Eze 20:20, that He is the God that sanctifies Eze 20:12 because we can't sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17, nor can ones church sanctify us, despite some churches claims. If we are grafted in through faith, we become the seed of Abraham and are part of these important promises Gal 3:26-29

At the end we will either have the seal (sign) of God or be marked by the beast.

The beast is the one who thinks to change God's times and laws Dan 7:25 that the whole world wonders after(thinks like). Only the beast can define its mark and she did.

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

Its all a matter is who is our Authority. If its God, keep the Sabbath day holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God thus saith the Lord Exo 20:8-11, if its Rome, keep Sunday. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16

Jos 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

Luke 16:16
“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.

What happened until John? Jesus came. Did He come to destroy the Law and Prophets? He said He did not, He said not to break the least of these commandments and in doing so one would be least in heaven. According to the very next verse means not there. Mat 5:17-30

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

I pray you are not believing the Pharisees over the words of Jesus who said He did not sin

John 8: 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

Jesus never broke God's Sabbath commandment, He broke the sabbath of the pharisees, their own man-made commandments taking a bit of God's commandment and adding in their own rules. Something we are warned not to Deut 4:2 Pro 30:5-6 Mat 5:18 Revelation 22:18-19 Much like the Pharisees of this world do today and will soon, just as Jesus had to endure, will persecute God's remnant for not keeping their man-made rules and traditions, but instead stay faithful to God and His commandments. Much like Daniel and his friends all went through.

The Law of Moses and the Sabbath were for the Israelites/Jews under the first covenant, not for the Christians under the New Covenant.

God still has His laws in the New Covenant- just written on a better surface. 2 Cor 3:3 Heb 8:10 Why its still a sin to break the Ten Commandments in the NC 1 John 3:4 James 2:11 and one will be in fear of sin and Judgement Mat 5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15

Galatians 3:23-25 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

If the law brings us to Christ until faith, does faith void the law?

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Once we have faith in Jesus, did He teach us we can now worship other gods, break His holy Sabbath, vain His name, covet, steal, cheat, lie. No He said in clear words

Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

I want to be with Jesus in the kingdom of heaven, where He will wipe away all tears and there will be no more sin, no more death, just spending eternity in peace and harmony with Jesus. Where coming together before the Lord to worship Him every Sabbath will also continue Isa 66:23 because it is such a blessing to spend time with God on the day He set aside, the only day He sanctified from Creation to do so. Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11 Mar 2:27


Sadly this is the result of breaking and teaching others to break the least of these commandments. Same as the Pharisees who promoted their traditions over the commandments of God, in vain they worship Me, He says. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

We really need to get back to the Bible and what He says, He is the only way we are saved. No wonder why He says come out of her My people Rev 18:4 , who have followed the traditions of man over the commandments of God, the path that leads one to a ditch Mat 15:3-14.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus always led by example, who faithfully kept all the commandments and if we abide in Him, we will too. John 15:10 1 John 2:6

 

[SabbathBlessings]

For Sabbath Blessings

RE: God promised not to alter Psa89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18-19.

God did not break his covenant between God and man. The Israelites broke the covenant. That is why God's son made a new covenant between God and man. Jesus, who is both God and man, mediated a new covenant between God and man and he is its everlasting surety. Hebrews 7:22

Yes, God did not break His covenant, the Israelites broke it, agreed.

So God established a new covenant on better promises, not better or new laws.

Heb 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

The New Covenant still has God's laws Heb 8:10 now written on a better surface our heart 2 Cor 3:3 Heb 8:10 and can keep them based on these better promises that the new covenant was established on.

God keeps His promises, why the words of the covenant have not changed Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18, just the promises of how we can better keep them through His doing and strength Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 not based on our own efforts, as long as we do not rebel Heb 3:7-19 Rom 8:7-8

Matthew 5:17-18“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled/finished the Law of Moses by his death on the cross. John 19:28-30, Luke 24:44

What was the heaven and earth of the Jews? It was their temple. Jesus prophesied that it would pass away in their own generation. It did, in 70 AD.

Matthew 24:1-2 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” ....................... 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Jesus prophesied that the heaven and earth of the Jews (their temple) would pass away in their own (this) generation. It did. Two thousand years later, his words concerning this temple destruction have not passed away, and they never will.

All of Matthew 24:1-34 was fulfilled before the end of 70 AD. It concerned the destruction of Jerusalem, its temple, and its people. It is not a prophecy that is still to be fulfilled.

Jesus never said once not a jot or tittle will pass from His law until the Cross and now all is fulfilled in 70AD. Why would one think living in a world full of sin, being separated from God, is the fulfillment of everything, its not.

Jesus said He came not to destroy the Prophets so when these prophecies were given by His prophets that have yet been fufilled, it means not ALL is fulfilled.

Isa 25:8He will swallow up death forever, And the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from all faces; The rebuke of His people He will take away from all the earth; For the LORD has spoken.

Rev 21:14 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”


Mat 5:For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Jesus said heaven and earth will pass before but His words will by no means pass. Heaven and earth are still here and not ALL is fulfilled as Jesus promised so not one jot or tittle can pass from God's law. Why its still a sin to worship other gods, bow to false idols, vain His holy name, break His holy Sabbath day, murder, commit adultery, covet, lie steal or break the least of these commandments. Mat 5:18-19.

 

[Jan001]

You stating so, doesn't make it Scripture. Especially when Jesus quoted from the Ten Commandments and called it the commandment of God and Mat 15:3-4 and considering He is the Author and its His Testimony, my faith is in His teachings.


It was known to be the Ten Commandments Deut 4:13- God's covenant, God's commandments thus saith the Lord Exo 20:6 The law that Moses wrote was beside the ark of the covenant- outside as a witness against Deut 31:24-26 for breaking what was inside God's Holy and Eternal Law as it is what man will be judged by Rev 11:18-19 and I would not want to remove one jot or tittle on what God covers under His mercy seat, which sits the Ten Commandments, God's own Testimony Exo 31:18


I have addressed this before and I do not believe you are reading the responses, or perhaps, which I pray is not the case, just not interested in what the Bible actually has to say. In this case what the Lord has to say.


Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”


According to the Lord, the Sabbath is doing justice and righteousness, which is the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 He blesses the man who keeps the Sabbath, also for the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles) who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him and love His name (love Him) everyone who keeps from breaking the Sabbath and hold fast His covenant He will bring to His holy mountain and will be a house of prayer for ALL NATIONS which means for everyone or those who do not rebel against His voice. He relates those who defile the Sabbath as doing evil the opposite of doing justice and righteousness.




Yes, the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people Eze 20:20, that He is the God that sanctifies Eze 20:12 because we can't sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17, nor can ones church sanctify us, despite their claims. If we are grafted in through faith, we become the seed of Abraham and are part of these important promises Gal 3:26-29

At the end we will either have the seal (sign) of God or be marked by the beast.

The beast is the one who thinks to change God's times and laws Dan 7:25 that the whole world wonders after(thinks like). Only the beast can define its mark and she did.

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

Its all a matter is who is our Authority. If its God, keep the Sabbath day holy, the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God thus saith the Lord Exo 20:8-11, if its Rome, keep Sunday. Whoever we obey is who we serve Rom 6:16

Jos 24:15 And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

What happened until John? Jesus came. Did He come to destroy the Law and Prophets? He said He did not, He said not to break the least of these commandments and in doing so one would be least in heaven. According to the very next verse means not there. Mat 5:17-30

I pray you are not believing the Pharisees over the words of Jesus who said He did not sin

John 8: 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

Jesus never broke God's Sabbath commandment, He broke the sabbath of the pharisees, their own man-made commandments taking a bit of God's commandment and adding in their own rules. Something we are warned not to Deut 4:2 Pro 30:5-6 Mat 5:18 Revelation 22:18-19 Much like the Pharisees of this world do today and will soon, just as Jesus had to endure, will persecute God's remnant for not keeping their man-made rules and traditions, but instead stay faithful to God and His commandments. Much like Daniel and his friends all went through.

God still has His laws in the New Covenant- just written on a better surface. 2 Cor 3:3 Heb 8:10 Why its still a sin to break the Ten Commandments in the NC 1 John 3:4 James 2:11 and one will be in fear of sin and Judgement Mat 5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15


If the law brings us to Christ until faith, does faith void the law?

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Once we have faith in Jesus, did He teach us we can now worship other gods, break His holy Sabbath, vain His name, covet, steal, cheat, lie. No He said in clear words

Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

I want to be with Jesus in the kingdom of heaven, where He will wipe away all tears and there will be no more sin, no more death, just spending eternity in peace and harmony with Jesus. Where coming together before the Lord to worship Him every Sabbath will also continue Isa 66:23 because it is such a blessing to spend time with God on the day He set aside, the only day He sanctified from Creation to do so. Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11 Mar 2:27


Sadly this is the result of breaking and teaching others to break the least of these commandments. Same as the Pharisees who promoted their traditions over the commandments of God, in vain they worship Me, He says. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

We really need to get back to the Bible and what He says, He is the only way we are saved. No wonder why He says come out of her My people Rev 18:4 , who have followed the traditions of man over the commandments of God, the path that leads one to a ditch Mat 15:3-14.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Jesus always led by example, who faithfully kept all the commandments and if we abide in Him, we will too. John 15:10 1 John 2:6

You address too many things in one post. How about one thing at a time?

 

[Jan001]

You stating so, doesn't make it Scripture. Especially when Jesus quoted from the Ten Commandments and called it the commandment of God and Mat 15:3-4 and considering He is the Author and its His Testimony, my faith is in His teachings.

Jesus was born under the first covenant laws.

The tradition that Jesus was against was the tradition that nullified a person's obligations to take good care of his own parent's needs and the respect due to one's parent.

This commandment was based on one of the laws in God's Natural Law which cannot be nullified. God's Natural Law has been in force since the creation of mankind. God's Natural Law was tailored specifically for the Israelites in their Ten Commandments. The Sabbath obligations were specifically added for them as a sign between them and God. The Sabbath obligation of the Israelites was not required for the patriarchs who lived and died before the Exodus event, and it was not required for the Gentile Christians under Jesus' New Covenant. The word, Sabbath, was not mentioned in Scripture until the Exodus event.


Natural Law regarding parents:

Genesis 9:20-26
Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. 21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father naked and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father’s naked body. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father naked.

24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said,

“Cursed be Canaan!
The lowest of slaves
will he be to his brothers.”
26 He also said,

“Praise be to the Lord, the God of Shem!
May Canaan be the slave of Shem.


And, yes, Romans 7 is about the Law of Moses. What law do you think he is discussing?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Jesus was born under the first covenant laws.

Testament means covenant. Jesus lived in the New Testament or New Covenant. He ratified His New Covenant by His blood.

Had Jesus not overcame sin and temptation, which means He kept the commandments of God, He could not be our example to follow.

Heb 4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
1 Pe 2:22 "WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH";
1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked

This commandment was based on one of the laws in God's Natural Law which cannot be nullified.

Obviously this is not found in Scripture that we are to do away with God's laws, for natural laws.

God's Natural Law has been in force since the creation of mankind. God's Natural Law was tailored specifically for the Israelites in their Ten Commandments. The Sabbath obligations were specifically added for them as a sign between them and God. The Sabbath obligation of the Israelites was not required for the patriarchs who lived and died before the Exodus event, and it was not required for the Gentile Christians under Jesus' New Covenant. The word, Sabbath, was not mentioned in Scripture until the Exodus event.

The Sabbath started at Creation thus saith the Lord

Gen 2:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

And, yes, Romans 7 is about the Law of Moses. What law do you think he is discussing?

Yet again only produce your own words, which sorry, is not where I place my faith in over the clear words of our Lord and Savior Deut 4:13 Exo 20:6 Jesus told us to live by His every word, not mans.

 

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You address too many things in one post. How about one thing at a time?

Just addressing the context of the Scriptures you posted.

 

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Jan001 said:
It was given to the Israelites as a sign between them and God. It was never given to the Gentile nations.

I have addressed this before and I do not believe you are reading the responses, or perhaps, which I pray is not the case, just not interested in what the Bible actually has to say. In this case what the Lord has to say.


Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—
7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices
Will be accepted on My altar;
For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

What house is actually Jesus' house under his New Covenant? Is it the temple in Jerusalem?

Hebrews 3:6
But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory.

1 Timothy 3:15
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

According to the Lord, the Sabbath is doing justice and righteousness, which is the foundation of His throne Psa 89:14 He blesses the man who keeps the Sabbath, also for the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles) who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him and love His name (love Him) everyone who keeps from breaking the Sabbath and hold fast His covenant He will bring to His holy mountain and will be a house of prayer for ALL NATIONS which means for everyone or those who do not rebel against His voice. He relates those who defile the Sabbath as doing evil the opposite of doing justice and righteousness.


Yes, the Sabbath is a sign between God and His people Eze 20:20, that He is the God that sanctifies Eze 20:12 because we can't sanctify ourselves Isa 66:17, nor can ones church sanctify us, despite their claims. If we are grafted in through faith, we become the seed of Abraham and are part of these important promises Gal 3:26-29

Abraham was not under the Sabbath Law. I have been adopted by faith into Abraham's family, therefore I am also not under the Sabbath Law.

Galatians 3:7
Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.

At the end we will either have the seal (sign) of God or be marked by the beast.

The beast is the one who thinks to change God's times and laws Dan 7:25 that the whole world wonders after(thinks like). Only the beast can define its mark and she did.

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.
—C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

Actually, C. F. Thomas, was mistaken. Before Jesus' ascension into heaven, he taught his followers to worship God on the first day of the week. That is why Luke said the following:

Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

The collections were made during their weekly worship services on the first day of the week.

 

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What house is actually Jesus' house under his New Covenant? Is it the temple in Jerusalem?

You didn't address the Scriptures at all. You said the nation of Gentiles was never under the Sabbath and a thus saith the Lord says otherwise. Isa 56:1-7

Hebrews 3:6
But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory.
1 Timothy 3:15
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

Amen

Abraham was not under the Sabbath Law. I have been adopted by faith into Abraham's family, therefore I am also not under the Sabbath Law.

Where is the verse that says this?

Abrahams kept God's commandments, the Sabbath is a commandment of God thus saith the Lord

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws."

Galatians 3:7
Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.

Amen

Actually, C. F. Thomas, was mistaken.

Than there are a bunch of people who claim to be Catholic all teaching the same thing

Before Jesus' ascension into heaven, he taught his followers to worship God on the first day of the week. That is why Luke said the following:

Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

No where in the verse does it say to keep every first day of the week for worship. It says they came together to break bread, which is having a meal and they did that daily

Acts 2:26 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart,

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

It says nothing about every first day being a day of worship.

The collections were made during their weekly worship services on the first day of the week.

There is no verse that says this and I would highly recommend not adding to God's holy Word. I will address what kind of collection they were bringing and why it wasn't in church service when more time allows through the Scriptures.

They kept every Sabbath as Scripture says over and over again both Jews and Gentiles and God said His house is one of prayer keeping the Sabbath for everyone. Isa 56:1-7 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 and in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23 Amen.

 

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Testament means covenant. Jesus lived in the New Testament or New Covenant. He ratified His New Covenant by His blood.

Jesus was born under the first covenant. He had to fulfill/finish it before he could make a New Covenant by his sacrificial death on the cross.
Actually, Jesus' sacrificial death finished/fulfilled the first covenant and mediated his New Covenant.

Hebrews 8:6
But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Hebrews 9:15
For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

The Sabbath started at Creation thus saith the Lord

Gen 2:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Yet again only produce your own words, which sorry, is not where I place my faith in over the clear words of our Lord and Savior Deut 4:13 Exo 20:6 Jesus told us to live by His every word, not mans.

This seventh day Sabbath was commanded specifically for the Israelites. God modeled their Sabbath on the seventh day of his creation which is the day he "rested" from all his labor after creating the world in six days. I can assure you that God literally had no need for physical or spiritual rest.

If the Sabbath of the Jews was so important for Christians to obey in order to receive eternal life, why did Jesus neglect to command it when he was asked directly?

Matthew 19:16-19
Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’


If the Sabbath of the Jews was so important for Christians to obey, why didn't Paul specifically command the Christians to obey it?

Romans 13:8-10
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

 

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Jesus never said once not a jot or tittle will pass from His law until the Cross and now all is fulfilled in 70AD. Why would one think living in a world full of sin, being separated from God, is the fulfillment of everything, its not.

Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross fulfilled/finished the first covenant in about 33 AD. His New Covenant made the first one obsolete (no longer in use).

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

There was a 40-year (one generation) transition period given to the Jews to accept Jesus as their Messiah. At the end of this 40-year period, Jesus came in judgment against the unbelieving Jerusalem Jews. He used the Roman armies to destroy them, their temple, and their city.

Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross restored our relationship with God.

Romans 5:10-11
10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation.

Sin's allure will plague humans on earth until Jesus' second coming.

Jesus said He came not to destroy the Prophets so when these prophecies were given by His prophets that have yet been fufilled, it means not ALL is fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled all that was prophesied about him for his first coming to earth.

This is what Jesus said to his church's leaders after his resurrection from the dead:

Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

Isa 25:8He will swallow up death forever, And the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from all faces; The rebuke of His people He will take away from all the earth; For the LORD has spoken.

Rev 21:14 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

This concerns Jesus' second coming to earth at the end of time.

Mat 5:For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17-18 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

All was fulfilled that Jesus was talking about in Matthew 5. Jesus fulfilled/finished all the law by his sacrificial death on the cross. The heaven and the earth of the Jews was their temple. Jesus said that this heaven and earth would pass away within their own generation. It did, in 70 AD. The Roman armies destroyed it. Matthew 24:1-4, Matthew 24:34-35

Jesus said heaven and earth will pass before but His words will by no means pass. Heaven and earth are still here and not ALL is fulfilled as Jesus promised so not one jot or tittle can pass from God's law.

The Book of Matthew's "heaven and earth" of the Jews was its temple. It passed away in 70 AD within one generation, just as Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:34-35.

Why its still a sin to worship other gods, bow to false idols, vain His holy name, break His holy Sabbath day, murder, commit adultery, covet, lie steal or break the least of these commandments. Mat 5:18-19.

It is not a sin to break the Sabbath of the Jews under the New Covenant.

It is a sin to break God's Natural Law which has been in force since the creation of mankind. This includes worshiping idols, profaning God's name, committing murder, adultery, stealing, and coveting.

Jesus fulfilled/finished the old law with his sacrificial death on the cross. He had to do this before he could establish his new law. Jesus established/mediated his New Covenant by his sacrificial death on the cross.

Matthew 5"17-20 Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. 18 For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Are you claiming that Jesus neglected to fulfill all the law that he specifically came to fulfill?

 

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You didn't address the Scriptures at all. You said the nation of Gentiles was never under the Sabbath and a thus saith the Lord says otherwise. Isa 56:1-7

These "Isaiah 56" Gentiles were circumcised, and some were also castrated members of the Israelites' households. They were first covenant converts. These were not uncircumcised, unconverted Gentiles.

No where in the verse does it say to keep every first day of the week for worship. It says they came together to break bread, which is having a meal and they did that daily

Acts 2:26 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of hear.

Should be Acts 2:46.

Christians were soon kicked out of the temple and persecuted for their faith.

There is a huge difference between sharing a a regular meal and sharing in the breaking of the bread during the supper of the Lord. 1 Corinthians 11:23-34

It says nothing about every first day being a day of worship.

This has been a commanded word-of-mouth tradition since Jesus rose from the dead. This commandment is just as binding for Christians as any properly interpreted Scripture-letter tradition. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

They kept every Sabbath as Scripture says over and over again both Jews and Gentiles and God said His house is one of prayer keeping the Sabbath for everyone. Isa 56:1-7 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 and in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23 Amen.

No, the Gentiles who were not practicing Judaism did not keep the Sabbath of the Jews. Uncircumcised Gentiles were not allowed into Jewish synagogues. Acts 16:3

Gentiles were allowed into a specific outer court area of the temple only. They were not allowed into the Jewish worship spaces in the temple. Jesus was angry that merchants had taken over the space that was reserved for the uncircumcised Gentiles. Jeremiah 7:11, Matthew 21:12-13

 

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Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross fulfilled/finished the first covenant in about 33 AD. His New Covenant made the first one obsolete (no longer in use).

Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Amen.

Jesus made a New Covenant established on Better Promises, not better and new laws, thus saith the Lord.

Heb 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

The New Covenant still has God's laws Heb 8:10 now written on a better surface our heart 2 Cor 3:3 Heb 8:10 and can keep them based on these better promises that the new covenant was established on.

God keeps His promises, why the words of the covenant have not changed Psa 89:34 not a jot or tittle Mat 5:18, just the promises of how we can better keep them through His doing and strength Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 not based on our own efforts, as long as we do not rebel Heb 3:7-19 Rom 8:7-8

Sin's allure will plague humans on earth until Jesus' second coming.

Sin is breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 James 2:11 Rom 7:7 Mat 5:19-30, His version, not mans.

Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 not in our sins Heb 10:26-30

Jesus fulfilled all that was prophesied about him for his first coming to earth.

When did this happen?

1 Thes 4:15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Rev 1:7 Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.


Rev 20:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

So no, not all is fulfilled therefore whoever breaks or teaches others to break the least of these commandments, will be least in heaven. Mat 5:19

This is what Jesus said to his church's leaders after his resurrection from the dead:

Luke 24:44
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”



This concerns Jesus' second coming to earth at the end of time.

Yes, which hasn't happened yet. The Scriptures do not say he comes to earth at His Second Coming either. He says His saints meet Him in the air and we go where he goes where he has many mansions

Matthew 5:17-18 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

All was fulfilled that Jesus was talking about in Matthew 5. Jesus fulfilled/finished all the law by his sacrificial death on the cross. The heaven and the earth of the Jews was their temple. Jesus said that this heaven and earth would pass away within their own generation. It did, in 70 AD. The Roman armies destroyed it. Matthew 24:1-4, Matthew 24:34-35

It doesn't say until the Cross,. We weren't even born then. Does the death of Jesus mean we have freedom to now worship other gods, vain His holy name, steal, covet or break the least of these commandments. Heaven and earth are still here, therefore so is God's holy law and His word remains. Luke 16:17 Luke 21:33 If you feel that because of the death of Jesus we can remain in our sins where no more sacrifice remains Heb 10:26-30, that's a choice, but it not one coming from God's holy Word or what He desires for us but He instead asks for us to come to repentance and turn from our sins.

The Book of Matthew's "heaven and earth" of the Jews was its temple. It passed away in 70 AD within one generation, just as Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:34-35.

The Text doesn't match your commentary

It is not a sin to break the Sabbath of the Jews under the New Covenant.

Breaking God's law is sin 1 John 3:4 the Sabbath is the law of God and one of His personally written commandments. It is no different than breaking the 1st commandment of the 7th commandment breaking one we break them all and become a transgressor of God's law James 2:11 Mat 5:19-30

It is a sin to break God's Natural Law which has been in force since the creation of mankind. This includes worshiping idols, profaning God's name, committing murder, adultery, stealing, and coveting.

Sadly what you are doing is diminishing the power and authority of God. God is the one who gave the Ten Commandments He is the power behind them Exo 31:18 Exo 32:16 and its not called the natural law it is called the Ten Commandments or the commandments of God thus saith the Lord. Deut 4:13 Exo 20:6 Exo 34:28

We are warned about this very thing

2 Tim 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

Jesus fulfilled/finished the old law with his sacrificial death on the cross. He had to do this before he could establish his new law. Jesus established/mediated his New Covenant by his sacrificial death on the cross.

Matthew 5"17-20 Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. 18 For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Are you claiming that Jesus neglected to fulfill all the law that he specifically came to fulfill?

I'll post this once again which gives the context of what laws ended at the death of Jesus Christ, Hopefully you will read it.

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There is a law that not a jot or tittle can pass and its not the one that God personally wrote with His own finger, God's own Testimony that sits under His mercy seat where justice and mercy will come together soon.

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

 

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These "Isaiah 56" Gentiles were circumcised, and some were also castrated members of the Israelites' households. They were first covenant converts. These were not uncircumcised, unconverted Gentiles.

Where does it say this? We need to remember, our words are not the same as Scripture. Jesus said He would bring them to His holy mountain and For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” for those who keep the Sabbath Isa 56:2 Isa 56:6 says nothing about being circumcised. This is a prophecy and in God's New Covenant He took the enmity of having to be circumcised to gain access to the sin solution.

Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,

Why both Jews and Gentiles were keeping every Sabbath in the New Covenant

Acts 13:42 [n]So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

Acts 13 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

Should be Acts 2:46.

Christians were soon kicked out of the temple and persecuted for their faith.

There is a huge difference between sharing a a regular meal and sharing in the breaking of the bread during the supper of the Lord. 1 Corinthians 11:23-34

This has been a commanded word-of-mouth tradition since Jesus rose from the dead. This commandment is just as binding for Christians as any properly interpreted Scripture-letter tradition. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

No, the Gentiles who were not practicing Judaism did not keep the Sabbath of the Jews. Uncircumcised Gentiles were not allowed into Jewish synagogues. Acts 16:3

Gentiles were allowed into a specific outer court area of the temple only. They were not allowed into the Jewish worship spaces in the temple. Jesus was angry that merchants had taken over the space that was reserved for the uncircumcised Gentiles. Jeremiah 7:11, Matthew 21:12-13

There is no such thing as the Sabbath of the Jews. This is a man-made teaching.

God in His own words took ownership of the Sabbath. He called it the Sabbath of the Lord thy God Exo 20:10 written and spoken by God who there is no greater Authority. My Holy Day, the Holy Day of the Lord, thus saith the Lord Isa 58:13 meaning there is no there substitute, just a counterfeit as we were warned Dan 7:25.

None of these verses say what you claim they are saying. Jesus never abrogated the Sabbath commandment, not once, He said His faithful would be keeping the Sabbath decades after His Cross Mat 24:20 and for eternity Isa 66:23.

If we do not want to keep the Sabbath now, I am not sure people will suddenly want to once He returns. Its why His judgement is one of love because not everyone will be happy in heaven without sin back to His perfect plan before sin hijacked this earth, where His faithful will come before Him worshipping before Him from one Sabbath to another. Amen.

 

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If the law brings us to Christ until faith, does faith void the law?

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Romans 3:27-31 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On the principle of works? No, but on the principle of faith. 28 For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since God is one; and he will justify the circumcised on the ground of their faith and the uncircumcised through their faith. 31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

Galatians 3:21-24
Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

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Gentiles who did not convert to Judaism are outside the Law of Moses. They are not subject to it.

All Christians are under the law of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:21
To those outside the law (of Moses) I became as one outside the law—not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ—that I might win those outside the law.


Observing the Sabbath of the Jews is a work of the Law of Moses. The Colossian Christians are commanded to disregard the Sabbath laws of the Jews. Colossians 2:13-17

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. Hebrews 5:8-10

 

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Romans 3:27-31 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On the principle of works? No, but on the principle of faith. 28 For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since God is one; and he will justify the circumcised on the ground of their faith and the uncircumcised through their faith. 31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

Galatians 3:21-24
Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

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Gentiles who did not convert to Judaism are outside the Law of Moses. They are not subject to it.

All Christians are under the law of Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:21
To those outside the law (of Moses) I became as one outside the law—not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ—that I might win those outside the law.


Observing the Sabbath of the Jews is a work of the Law of Moses. The Colossian Christians are commanded to disregard the Sabbath laws of the Jews. Colossians 2:13-17

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. Hebrews 5:8-10

I already provided context to many of these verses and this is after the death of Christ there is no more circumcision to sperate Jews from Gentiles. I can provide the context to these new verses if I thought you would actually read them, like Heb 7 is referring to the priesthood, not the Sabbath and goes on to tell us why the law had to change but sadly no reads the context, just plucks a verse here and a verse there and we can make the bible say anything we want in doing so, but it doesn't make it God's Truth.

We are too far apart in our understanding of God's holy Word- all gets sorted out soon enough.

Be well.

 

[Jan001]

There is no such thing as the Sabbath of the Jews. This is a man-made teaching.

1 Maccabees 10:34

If we do not want to keep the Sabbath now, I am not sure people will suddenly want to once He returns. Its why His judgement is one of love because not everyone will be happy in heaven without sin back to His perfect plan before sin hijacked this earth, where His faithful will come before Him worshipping before Him from one Sabbath to another. Amen.

There is only "today" in heaven. Hebrews 5:5
There are no individual days of the week in heaven. Revelation 21:23, Revelation 22:5
We will somehow be able to worship God continually.

After the second temple was built, as prophesied in the OT, the Israelites/Jews came before him, worshiping before him from one Sabbath to another. Isaiah 66:23

Sabbaths were for the first covenant Israelites.

When Jesus was asked directly about what was needed to enter/inherit eternal life, he did not command the Sabbaths. Why not? Because they were not needed in his New Covenant.


Matthew 19:16-20 17 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”


I do believe in Jesus Christ's teachings. I do not need the Sabbaths that you insist on me keeping in order for me to inherit eternal life.

It is an incontrovertible truth that Jesus does not require me to keep the Sabbaths of the Jews in order to enter into eternal life. He would have said so when directly asked if the Sabbaths were necessary.

This was an interesting discussion.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

1 Maccabees 10:34


There is only "today" in heaven. There are no individual days of the week. We will somehow be able to worship God continually.

When the second temple was built, as prophesied in the OT, the Jews came before him, worshiping before him from one Sabbath to another. Isaiah 66:23

Sabbaths were for the first covenant Israelites.

When Jesus was asked directly about what was needed to enter/inherit eternal life, he did not command the Sabbaths. Why not? Because they were not needed in his New Covenant.


Matthew 19:16-20 17 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”


I do believe in Jesus Christ's teachings. I do not need the Sabbaths that you insist on me keeping in order for me to inherit eternal life.

It is an incontrovertible truth that Jesus does not require me to keep the Sabbaths of the Jews in order to enter into eternal life. He would have said so when directly asked if the Sabbaths were necessary.

This was an interesting discussion.

We have been through this passage already so I do not see the point in repeating ourselves. We do not consider Maccabees as inspired Scripture.

Take care