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"In 1858, four years after the dogma of the Immaculate Conception was proclaimed, Mary appeared to a very poor young girl, Bernadette Soubirous, eighteen times between February 11 and July 16, 1858. On March 25, 1858, on the feast of the Annunciation, Our Lady revealed to the uneducated Bernadette, 'I am the Immaculate Conception.' Because the dogma had been officially proclaimed less than four years earlier, and Bernadette could not even have know of its existence, great credibility was given to Bernadette by her repetition of the Blessed Mother's word. It was an affirmation from Heaven of the truth of the dogma. In addition, Bernadette was told by Mary to begin digging in the ground; she obediently did so, to the townspeople's scorn. water immediately began flowing from the spot where Bernadette dug, a tiny stream that since has grown to the size of a small river. Thousands of healings have been reported as the result of bathing in or drinking this miraculous water. The walls of the grotto where the Blessed Mother appeared are lined with the crutches of the lame who have walked away from the waters, totally healed."
---Thunder of Justice, pg. 23
You know what I find funny... Is that the Pharisees accused Jesus of exactly the same thing, that he was working miracles from the Devil..
And if dead people can't show themselves what about the transifuguration where elijah and moses showed themselves..
The saints and angels are dead to us??
"Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.
Bless ye the LORD, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure." (Ps 103:20-21)
"Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts." (Psalm 148:1-2)
why would God want us to praise "all his hosts" if they are dead ??
"And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand." (Apoc/Rev 8:3-4)
THe saints are well alive and we are told that asking them for help and intercession is not only ok, but looked up on.
The Bible tells Christians to pray for one another and for the world (Romans 15:30; 2 Corinthians 1:11; Ephesians 6:18-19; Colossians 4:3; I Thessalonians 5:25; 2 Thess 1:11; Hebrews 13:18)
the Apocalypse actually shows the saints in Heaven interceding for us:
"And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints." (Apoc/Rev 5:8)
The angels and twenty-four elders in Heaven offer incense to God, which is said to be the "prayers of the saints (on earth)". The saints in Heaven are offering the prayers of Christians on earth before the throne of God
They souls of believers and the saints are well alive, not dead..
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