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The epistle was Romans 13:1-8 last Sunday. The Canon was performing a certain amount of mental gymnastics to make his point without getting explicitly political. Of course, here in the USA, we have the most controversial President in some time and there are many disgruntled folks. I personally treat politics like a barrier reef and steer well clear in my preaching (which was not always the case - but a lesson learned).
 
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The epistle was Romans 13:1-8 last Sunday. The Canon was performing a certain amount of mental gymnastics to make his point without getting explicitly political. Of course, here in the USA, we have the most controversial President in some time and there are many disgruntled folks. I personally treat politics like a barrier reef and steer well clear in my preaching (which was not always the case - but a lesson learned).
I know a lot of people who talk about avoiding discussing politics from the pulpit. How exactly is that possible? That is a a serious question.
 
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I know a lot of people who talk about avoiding discussing politics from the pulpit. How exactly is that possible? That is a a serious question.
I anticipated someone asking a similar question, and I would propose that the answer is somewhat in the semantics of how one goes about defining politics. Roger Olson, over at Patheos, had some discussion of whether there are certain principles that can be assumed to be commonly held by all reasonable Americans. It's an interesting question in this day and age.

Now, it seems to me that the Scriptures are not much concerned with a free market economy or any number of other sacred cows of large swathes of the American electorate. Nor do I particularly care about the majority of ballot initiatives or any candidates that are running for office. Scoundrels are usually readily apparent and, again, most ballot initiatives are matters of indifference where one would be hard-pressed to prove a 'Biblical' position.

The long standing debate has been, at least for conservative Christians: do we uphold traditional morality or serve the poor? This has tended to break down as a Republican/morality or Democrat/service dichotomy. I don't see a need to be explicit from the pulpit. Most people will instantly tune that stuff out anyway (unless they think you are about to agree with their pre-conceptions).
 
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I anticipated someone asking a similar question, and I would propose that the answer is somewhat in the semantics of how one goes about defining politics. Roger Olson, over at Patheos, had some discussion of whether there are certain principles that can be assumed to be commonly held by all reasonable Americans. It's an interesting question in this day and age.

Now, it seems to me that the Scriptures are not much concerned with a free market economy or any number of other sacred cows of large swathes of the American electorate. Nor do I particularly care about the majority of ballot initiatives or any candidates that are running for office. Scoundrels are usually readily apparent and, again, most ballot initiatives are matters of indifference where one would be hard-pressed to prove a 'Biblical' position.

The long standing debate has been, at least for conservative Christians: do we uphold traditional morality or serve the poor? This has tended to break down as a Republican/morality or Democrat/service dichotomy. I don't see a need to be explicit from the pulpit. Most people will instantly tune that stuff out anyway (unless they think you are about to agree with their pre-conceptions).

I don't think a traditional Christian morality can avoid serving the poor.

I presume that was not your point, but I thought it worth mentioning.
 
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Today shall go down in infamy as "the day Paidiske nearly burned the church down." Fortunately we got to it before flames had done more than minor damage to a chair.

Note to self: there is indeed such a thing as too many candles at a Taizé-style service.
 
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Today shall go down in infamy as "the day Paidiske nearly burned the church down." Fortunately we got to it before flames had done more than minor damage to a chair.

Note to self: there is indeed such a thing as too many candles at a Taizé-style service.
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Today shall go down in infamy as "the day Paidiske nearly burned the church down." Fortunately we got to it before flames had done more than minor damage to a chair.

Note to self: there is indeed such a thing as too many candles at a Taizé-style service.
Or maybe "the day Paisiske got the church remodeled."
 
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Lol. This church is really pretty, even though you wouldn't build it the way it is if you were building today, it'd be an awful shame to destroy it.

Some other churches, though, I'm sure their clergy are tempted...
 
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Today shall go down in infamy as "the day Paidiske nearly burned the church down." Fortunately we got to it before flames had done more than minor damage to a chair.

Note to self: there is indeed such a thing as too many candles at a Taizé-style service.
Paidiske, you finally did it. I HAD to finally find out what Taize-style is if it caused this much trouble! Thank you. It really is beautiful.

I'm glad no real harm was done, other than injury to an innocent chair :)
 
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Too bad it wasn't my chair. I think the curate's sons intentionally give me the most rickety old chair we have, and me the heaviest one behind the rail (I'm over 16 stone). Of course, I don't use it much and the kneeler is a good bit sturdier than the chair.
 
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Well, it's one of those things where the chair is never used and kind of hangs about as sanctuary clutter because someone once gave it in memory of someone else that nobody now remembers... I'm hoping if it has to go away for repair we might be able, when it comes back, to retire it into storage.
 
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My ordination to the diaconate took place yesterday, April 28th, on the Feast day of St. Cronan at St. Michael the Archangel Anglican Church. Two other men were also ordained to the diaconate.
 
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My ordination to the diaconate took place yesterday, April 28th, on the Feast day of St. Cronan at St. Michael the Archangel Anglican Church. Two other men were also ordained to the diaconate.
That is awesome. Congrats!
 
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Congratulations, Reverend!

The transitional diaconate can be a strange time - sort of betwixt and between - but you're always welcome to think out loud about it here.
 
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There was something a little off about the bishop on the far right and I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, but looking at the pictures I finally realized what it was: he is one of those bishops that chooses to wear a black cassock. Next to him is the Abbot of our affiliate monastic order, and then me (3rd from right - no glasses).
 
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My ordination to the diaconate took place yesterday, April 28th, on the Feast day of St. Cronan at St. Michael the Archangel Anglican Church. Two other men were also ordained to the diaconate.
Congratulations! I pray that God will bless your ministry richly.
 
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Question, does anyone else's parish engage in any kind of special celebrations for St. George's Day/Feast of St. George? I'd never been to my own parish's St. George's Evensong until this Sunday and it was really quite stunning (despite my daughter having a rare meltdown mid service).
 
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No, I've never been anywhere that marked St. George's day. I think here the feeling would be that that would be a very "English" thing to do.
I'd attribute it to our own country's (US) recent obsession in the last decade with all thing British, but my parish has apparently been marking the day with a special Procession/Parade, Evensong, and High Tea for decades now. So it's definitely not a new development. Didn't hurt that it was the Bishop's final St. George's Day and visit to the Cathedral before his retirement mass this summer so they went all out.
 
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