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Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by Blood Bought 1953, Dec 5, 2017.

  1. RaymondG

    RaymondG Well-Known Member

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    Cant give steak to a baby, or risk killing it. You see, I just posted about the amazing love of God and you received "God doesn’t want everybody"

    "those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled."

    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

    Everyone receives what they are ready to receive. The race isnt given to the swift. And the ones who gets there at the first hour, receives the same reward as the one who arrive at the 12th.
     
  2. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Jesus hid the truth from some lest they be saved... not because they were not ready to receive it....lest at ANY TIME they should see and hear and understand with their heart and be converted and saved...Isaiah predicted it centuries earlier...... closed eyes ,dull of hearing
     
  3. RaymondG

    RaymondG Well-Known Member

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    Yes. This truth was hidden from me lest at any time I should see and understand. One must die before they can live.
    "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it."

    "unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables"
    When you are ready to come inside, we can continue. May God bless you on your journey to heaven.
     
  4. Johnny4ChristJesus

    Johnny4ChristJesus Active Member Supporter

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    I have always known that people are different. I am an empathizer and I live in that mode. This is not something new that happened recently because of my interaction with you.

    Jesus didn't go to hell (gehenna). He went to hades. There is a difference.[/QUOTE]
     
  5. jesus316

    jesus316 All Truth is in Jesus

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    I don't get why people think you earn your way into heaven, either through being good or through having faith. Seems to me, getting into heaven consists in not rejecting going there when the day comes; in clinging to God when he shines his light upon us.
     
  6. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    So Hades is a holding place before judgment?
     
  7. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    These suggest action.

    The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.
    Mark 12:31

    Finally, all of you, be like-minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble.
    1 Peter 3:8

    No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.
    1 Corinthians 10:24

    Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
    Galatians 6:2

    Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.
    1 Thessalonians 5:11

    For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
    Galatians 5:14

    Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves.
    Philippians 2:3

    So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
    Matthew 7:12

    Keep on loving one another as brothers and sisters. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.
    Hebrews 13:1-2

    Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up.
    Romans 15:2
     
  8. Soyeong

    Soyeong Well-Known Member

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    Obedience to God has never been about striving to be good enough, but about finding rest for our souls (Jeremiah 6:16-19, Matthew 11:28-30).
     
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  9. Johnny4ChristJesus

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    If someone is truly serving Him, shouldn't his/her assessment always be in accordance with His judgment? After all, we are given His Spirit. Peter said: "you have not lied to men, but unto God." (Acts 5:4).

    Isn't it sad that people reject God and His judgment? Yet, He endures the rejection from the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction.
     
  10. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Soyeong...how does one obtain this rest for our souls
     
  11. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Jesus earned it ....we believe it... end of story....don’t trust what seems right....trust your faith in the shed blood of Jesus
     
  12. Blood Bought 1953

    Blood Bought 1953 Ned Flander’s Buddy

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    Raymond...your post was unclear to me ,could you put it in a nutshell?....I a m not the sharpest knife in the drawer.".lol
     
  13. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Even unbelievers can tell when someone is living the life of self-sacrificial service in Christ Jesus and when they are just serving with their lips but their hearts are far from Him.
    Those who are currently living in union with Yeshua, abiding in Him all the time,
    know it and are known by Him and by others doing the same , in Spirit, no matter the difference between them (which is often great).
    People are very often 'satisfied' or 'comfortable' thinking they are 'good enough' (title) when they may barely if at all know Him. To discover this, they have to go someplace where the difference is discussed and known and where those who are failing can be brought up instead of further cast down in their lives. Then if they are willing they may be helped, Yahweh Willing.
     
  14. Soyeong

    Soyeong Well-Known Member

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    By following the Law by grace through faith.
     
  15. Doug Melven

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    When Jesus spoke in parables he was referring to kingdom things, He spoke in parables so that those who were without (unbelievers) would not understand. But once these unbelievers become believers now they can understand the parables.

    These do more than suggest action, they are the actions of believers.
    We don't do these things to become believers, but because we are believers.
    1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
     
  16. Doug Melven

    Doug Melven Well-Known Member

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    Many people when they encounter Jesus at the Judgment will say "Lord, Lord", they may even profess how many good works they have done. And Jesus will reply, "I never knew you, depart from me you worker of iniquity".

    Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
     
  17. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    Or many may do those things and never know the word "Jesus"
    but be led by the Holy Spirit to do what is right.
     
  18. Doug Melven

    Doug Melven Well-Known Member

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    It is not so much the name "Jesus" that people need to know, but they need to know what Jesus means.
    God saves or Yahshua means YHWH saves.
     
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