Mayhaps God could have seen how science would work when he gifted mankind with it. Kind of like giving them a set of rules and then asking them to ignore the rules. Science has rules...can't just go willy-nilly ignoring them just because the conclusions don't make you happy.
You're going to gradually find out that that is exactly what some do in this forum. Hang around these type of threads long enough and you might well run through the equivalent of the 5 stages of grief.
I would like to introduce option 5b: okay, that person is a lost cause. Now make sure (s)he doesn't spoil the youth.
I get where you're going. Maybe we need a flow chart. At Item 5, when it says 'Nothing I can do about this', Maybe we need to add: '...about this person. Go to List 2 to Limit Damage.'
I got the idea of rather isolating leading creationists, rather than convincing them after watching some “debates” between science defenders and Kent Hovind. Too often I saw the science defender trying to convince Kent Hovind, explaining and arguing with him. Which felt more and more like an exercise in futility. There is no point of convincing someone as Kent Hovind. First, because it is his source of income he has every incentive to not change his opinion (or at least, his presentations). Second, that would be only one (aging) individual. Much more important are his followers. After all, they are plenty and provide his resources. Therefor exposing his errors, dirty tricks and lies in front of his followers should be the prime tactic.
"Appeal to unproven things:
" just because the conclusions don't make
As long as you just believe that, I wouldn't care. The professional creationists (Kent Hovind, John Sarfati and the like), that try to disprove the Theory of Evolution, are committing the "errors, dirty tricks and lies". If you were to impose you Elvis delusion in the school curriculum, or draw patients away from regular treatments to faith healing, than the stakes would be much higher.
We are half bananas. When I was in school and saw the first picture of a monkey to a man I rejected it and still do. I thought we were placed here by aliens and maybe Star Trek influenced my worldview. But back to bananas we share half the genetics, not the 96% in chimpanzees, imagine that.
Have you ever actually watched Kent Hovind’s debates? You can learn a lot by listening to the scientists and professors talk about the subject. Like when Dr Hartman openly admitted that there is no place on earth where you can actually go and witness the geological column. Or when Dr Rainbow admitted that we have never actually witnessed macro evolution or life deriving from chemicals. They both state that they have evidence that supports the theories but that the theories are largely based on predictions and assumptions. See these are the facts about the evolution theory that everyone seems to just ignore. Most people claim evolution to be a fact and completely ignore the fact that it is never actually been proven. They say oh we have tons of evidence, yeah tons of evidence that can be interpreted numerous different ways.
Speaking of science illiterates.
Never heard of either of these people nor are their facts relevant to anything.
