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Well to be frank, I disagree with a lot of SDA doctrines, so I wouldn't be a SDA myself. I'd be interested in finding a Seventh Day Baptist Church but I don't know of any in my location.
in fact looking online, the closest one to me is about an 8 hour drive lol.
Baptist Confession of Faith -- as formatted by C.H.Spurgeon
The Law of God - Baptist Confession of Faith: Section 19
1. God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience which was written in his heart, and He gave him very specific instruction about not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. By this Adam and all his descendants were bound to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience, being promised life upon the fulfilling of the law, and threatened with death upon the breach of it. At the same time Adam was endued with power and ability to keep it.
2. The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the Fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in the Ten Commandments, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man.
3. Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away.
4. To the people of Israel He also gave sundry judicial laws which expired when they ceased to be a nation. These are not binding on anyone now by virtue of their being part of the laws of that nation, but their general equity continue to be applicable in modern times.
5. The moral law ever binds to obedience everyone, justified people as well as others, and not only out of regard for the matter contained in it, but also out of respect for the authority of God the Creator, Who gave the law. Nor does Christ in the Gospel dissolve this law in any way, but He considerably strengthens our obligation to obey it.
6. Although true believers are not under the law as a covenant of works, to be justified or condemned by it, yet it is of great use to them as well as to others, because as a rule of life it informs them of the will of God and their duty and directs and binds them to walk accordingly. It also reveals and exposes the sinful pollutions of their natures, hearts and lives, and using it for self-examination they may come to greater conviction of sin, greater humility and greater hatred of their sin. They will also gain a clearer sight of their need of Christ and the perfection of His own obedience. It is of further use to regenerate people to restrain their corruptions, because of the way in which it forbids sin. The threatenings of the law serve to show what their sins actually deserve, and what troubles may be expected in this life because of these sins even by regenerate people who are freed from the curse and undiminished rigours of the law. The promises connected with the law also show believers God's approval of obedience, and what blessings they may expect when the law is kept and obeyed, though blessing will not come to them because they have satisfied the law as a covenant of works. If a man does good and refrains from evil simply because the law encourages to the good and deters him from the evil, that is no evidence that he is under the law rather than under grace.
7. The aforementioned uses of the law are not contrary to the grace of the Gospel, but they sweetly comply with it, as the Spirit of Christ subdues and enables the will of man to do freely and cheerfully those things which the will of God, which is revealed in the law, requires to be done.
Not to be a Judaizer, but I do wish that Baptists at least would go back to Saturday worship, just because Sunday was something instigated by the Roman Catholic Church, and it's kinda like.. even though we're not Catholic, we're obeying a Catholic doctrine that they invented themselves. I don't like the idea of obeying the Pope at all.
If you wish to join with others that keep the Saturday sabbath I recommend joining an Adventist church. I know, coming from me that may be confusing. You can worship with and fellowship with other Saturday keepers without buying into the dietary, and other restrictions. I know several of my Adventist friends that eat meat, have wine (fermented) with dinner, and don't hold to all the rules and theology.
Here is the thing, if you are looking for the perfect church, you won't find it. People aren't perfect, so you aren't going to find perfection in any denomination or non-denomination.
Yeah, as it is I have to compromise a lot on doctrinal positions, most of them minor (and really this is minor too, it IS a nitpick, and it's not like Sunday is the only time a Baptist Church usually gathers, there is also Wednesday evening at my local church which I know is common for Baptists and sometimes off night bible study/prayer meetings.
Yeah, as it is I have to compromise a lot on doctrinal positions, most of them minor (and really this is minor too, it IS a nitpick, and it's not like Sunday is the only time a Baptist Church usually gathers, there is also Wednesday evening at my local church which I know is common for Baptists and sometimes off night bible study/prayer meetings.
No, first of all Sunday worship was not discussed at the council of Nicaea. It was which Sunday the Church would celebrate Easter that was discussed because evidently not everyone was on the same page as to exactly which Sunday it was. If my memory serves correct it was Alexandria that was celebrating Easter on the wrong Sunday. Second, Constantine didn’t take any part at all in any decisions made at Nicaea, he attended but did not interfere with the proceedings of the council at all. Sunday worship was never discussed in the ecumenical councils because it was never questioned because it came directly from the apostles.
Anti-Catholic Protestants really, really, really need to learn about Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Assyrian Church of the East.Not to be a Judaizer, but I do wish that Baptists at least would go back to Saturday worship, just because Sunday was something instigated by the Roman Catholic Church, and it's kinda like.. even though we're not Catholic, we're obeying a Catholic doctrine that they invented themselves. I don't like the idea of obeying the Pope at all.
Well to be frank, I disagree with a lot of SDA doctrines, so I wouldn't be a SDA myself. I'd be interested in finding a Seventh Day Baptist Church but I don't know of any in my location.
in fact looking online, the closest one to me is about an 8 hour drive lol.
Anti-Catholic Protestants really, really, really need to learn about Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and the Assyrian Church of the East.
No, the Catholic Church is not innately evil, apostate, or a counter-Church. Any serious and thoughtful study of the above mentioned Churches can help to prove this.
Good idea! I can hunt around for websites from those Churches and send you some!Amen to that. We should probably do a thread to explore the history of those churches for the benefit of members.
Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches routinely have worship services on Saturday and during the week. In fact, except for the Armenians, the EOs and OOs have their main Paschal (Easter) worship at either midnight, or more commonly, at 8 PM or earlier on Saturday. Technically, it is liturgical Sunday, because Holy Saturday ends during the Vesperal Divine Liturgy on Saturday mornings.
My congregational church has one ministry that meets on Saturday but that is mainly for the convenience of people who cannot work on Sunday, and also to enable me to cover more geographical territory.
Given that William Miller was a Baptist preacher that was influential in starting the Adventist movement - I am going to start a thread here about "what kind of Baptist" an Adventist church would be some sort of combination of:
1. Free Will Baptist
2. Seventh-day Baptist
3. Charismatic Southern Baptist - Charismatic Southern Baptists
(very "light" on the Charismatic part in our case)
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Where a combination of that group into one Adventist Baptist denomination would simply add some changes in eschatology. For example - we believe the Rapture happens in Rev 19 - but it is still the basic Rapture of resurrected saints and living-saints translated with immortal bodies and taken to Heaven with Christ for 1000 years.
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One of the dotrines that bothers me about SDA is Soul sleep, the other is the idea of losing your salvation so you have to get saved and resaved and resaved and resaved again, which borders on works salvation.
What I believe is that we're not saved because of OUR obedience or faithfulness but because of HIS obedience and faithfulness.
Just saying because those doctrines are incompatible with my beliefs it'd be hard to go to congregations that teach different doctrines like those.
One of the dotrines that bothers me about SDA is Soul sleep,
I have no problem whatsoever with worshiping the Lord on Sunday at church. I have no problem with worshiping the Lord on Saturday at church either. What I have a problem with is people turning keeping the sabbath day into a 'legalistic prescription'
Anti-Catholic Protestants
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