Anybody Want To Answer This???

[thecountrydoc]

Potential Christian with great doubts


Hey everyone,

I'm new. For a great part of my life I've been agnostic. Recently someone introduced me to Christianity (not that I didn't know about it before) and I considered becoming a Christian myself, but I'm having some doubts. I'm not sure whether this belongs in the struggle forum or in the questions forum, but since I'm going to ask some questions, I guess it belongs here. I hope you guys can help me with this.

I always looked up to Jesus, but when I started reading passages of the Bible, there were things that were concerning me.

Luke 16:17 - "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."

Matthew 15:18-19 - “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

But when I read the laws of Moses, I strongly disagree with the morals they are teaching people. Like, why should parents stone their own children when they're rebellious? It's still their child. And what's wrong with homosexual people? Also, why enforce your beliefs upon others by killing non-believers?

I know these things aren't practiced these days, but I thought God's word was eternal. Besides, Jesus said that no single letter would pass away from the Old Testament.

Also, to me it sounds like the only way to get to Heaven is to accept Jesus as your Saviour. I know a Christian who has done some pretty horrible crimes. Yet, according to Jesus, he could just 'repent' for his sins and be over with it, and still go to Heaven. But then I'm here, trying to help people and not do any sort of evil (I know I will always make mistakes, but I'm trying to be a 'good' person), but if I don't accept Jesus as my Saviour, I will go to Hell? That doesn't seem to make any sense to me. If I were to become a Christian, then I'd become one just to be 'safe', but then again, that isn't who I am. Then I'd just be using Jesus, because I only chose him so I could get my free ticket to Heaven. Then I wouldn't chose Christianity out of love, but out of fear. And I really don't want that to happen, so I guess it's Hell for me.

I have more questions, but I guess this is enough for now. Thank you for your time. I would like it if you guys would clarify things, so I could have a better understanding as I'm still a non-Christian after all. So I might not always understand Christian reasoning.

Thanks!

- EgbertTheFourth

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[Cribstyl]

Doc this is a tough one, and there are many questions to answer for this person but the answers are in God's word.

I went to that site and was glad to see that other chistians were administering first aid to the young person. I read a few pages and that person is teachable and appear as accepting understanding given by some people. That thread has been going for 1 month, so what are you asking in this thread?

Doc did you want to discuss a possible approach to share the Gospel to that person? Or are you ringing the alarm for prayer or other ways to support that effort?

IN PEACE
CRIB

 

[thecountrydoc]

Hi Crib,

I thought perhaps the best way to witness to this young person could be discussed as compared to what has already been said by others. Then each poster could go to the original thread and give instruction, answer questions, and possibley invite him to engage in futher study. By those of you who know some of the problems facing a new christian, and the great variaty of answers he will be given, you could help him understand exactly what the Bible has to say and hopefully overcome any poor instruction that is given. Don't forget that we have a Bible Study sub-forum for new Christians which he could be invited to.

OK everybody, put your thinking caps on!

Respectfully,
Doc

 

[Adventtruth]

Hi Crib,

I thought perhaps the best way to witness to this young person could be discussed as compared to what has already been said by others. Then each poster could go to the original thread and give instruction, answer questions, and possibley invite him to engage in futher study. By those of you who know some of the problems facing a new christian, and the great variaty of answers he will be given, you could help him understand exactly what the Bible has to say and hopefully overcome any poor instruction that is given. Don't forget that we have a Bible Study sub-forum for new Christians which he could be invited to.

OK everybody, put your thinking caps on!

Respectfully,
Doc

Doc...where is your answer to his question? what do you have to offer that person?

AT

 

[Cribstyl]

Doc before you replied I could'nt resist posting in that thread. Boy, all are welcome to repost and examine my post, but I dont want to repost anyone's post. But whatever you guys agree to do, I will consider supporting.

God bless
CRIB

 

[thecountrydoc]

Hi AT,

I think Crib has already learned my reason for making the above post. I simply wanted to see if everyone would put the same effort into answering a nonChristian searching for truth about becoming a Christian as the effort expended arguing about SDA doctrines and beliefs in this forum? Where do our prioritiel lie? Are we being diciples of Christ by spreading the gospel, or do we simply want to act like the Pharasees of old and just talk about what we know/understand instead of witnessing to those who are searching for truth?

Sure, I could give a long presentation on how I would do things, but that would be like the teacher doing your homework.


Respectfully,
Doc

 

[Xenon]

Hi AT,

I think Crib has already learned my reason for making the above post. I simply wanted to see if everyone would put the same effort into answering a nonChristian searching for truth about becoming a Christian as the effort expended arguing about SDA doctrines and beliefs in this forum? Where do our prioritiel lie? Are we being diciples of Christ by spreading the gospel, or do we simply want to act like the Pharasees of old and just talk about what we know/understand instead of witnessing to those who are searching for truth?

Sure, I could give a long presentation on how I would do things, but that would be like the teacher doing your homework.


Respectfully,
Doc

Heh, didn't think that there'd be a test on this

Looking through the thread, I think Crib really nailed it though. I took one look at his post and realized that I had little of meaning to add. A bunch of people bum-rushing the thread would be a bad idea in my opinion.

 

[thecountrydoc]

DON'T DO A BUM'S RUSH!!! That is why I said discuss here the best way to be helpful. Surly everyone can think of somthing other that the sterotyped approach to witnessing. You all might start by thinking of ways to stimulate his interest to come here to the SDA forum and find out about Adventism without starting an arguement or creating roadblocks.

Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc

 

[Adventtruth]

Hi AT,

I think Crib has already learned my reason for making the above post. I simply wanted to see if everyone would put the same effort into answering a nonChristian searching for truth about becoming a Christian as the effort expended arguing about SDA doctrines and beliefs in this forum?

And why do you need to see this Doc? Are you an inspector of how and when people are led to witness now? Sounds kinda self-righteous and judmental to me. What about the telephone pole in your eye?

Where do our prioritiel lie? Are we being diciples of Christ by spreading the gospel, or do we simply want to act like the Pharasees of old and just talk about what we know/understand instead of witnessing to those who are searching for truth?

And that is why I asked you what are you doing about it. I saw that you asked all here to look into it...but it was you who opened it up to us, and yet you have not been the leader in responding to that thread, not then and not now. Tell me, whats wrong with that picture?

Sure, I could give a long presentation on how I would do things, but that would be like the teacher doing your homework.

What!!! So now you are lording over us now???

Who said it was our home work! ?Do you see how you are sounding? Who said you where the teacher and we your students? Doc you are way off base here. You need to just go over and respond to that thread seeing you are the great teacher that you are, and be an example for those who feel led to respond of the Holy Spirit and not of you.


AT

 

[RND]

And why do you need to see this Doc? Are you an inspector of how and when people are led to witness now? Sounds kinda self-righteous and judmental to me. What about the telephone pole in your eye?



And that is why I asked you what are you doing about it. I saw that you asked all here to look into it...but it was you who opened it up to us, and yet you have not been the leader in responding to that thread, not then and not now. Tell me, whats wrong with that picture?



What!!! So now you are lording over us now???

Who said it was our home work! ?Do you see how you are sounding? Who said you where the teacher and we your students? Doc you are way off base here. You need to just go over and respond to that thread seeing you are the great teacher that you are, and be an example for those who feel led to respond of the Holy Spirit and not of you.


AT

Boy AT, you sure do know how to spoil a good time and an honest gesture by Doc.

What do you do for an encore? Tear the wings off butterfly's?

 

[Adventtruth]

Boy AT, you sure do know how to spoil a good time and an honest gesture by Doc.

What do you do for an encore? Tear the wings off butterfly's?

All I did was ask DOC what he was doing about it. And he went on to say he is the teacher. He is the one who was being judgemental, and acting as if he was above us. But I assume you have not a problem with that?

AT

 

[sentipente]

Sure, I could give a long presentation on how I would do things, but that would be like the teacher doing your homework.


Respectfully,
Doc

Excuse me? This takes the cake. You have a really super-inflated opinion of yourself, Doc. The teacher doing your homework. This is laughable.

Maybe that was the purpose.

 

[Loveaboveall]

Excuse me? This takes the cake. You have a really super-inflated opinion of yourself, Doc. The teacher doing your homework. This is laughable.

Maybe that was the purpose.

Ego's sure do get in the way of God's work don't they?... We all are teachers AND students! Don't let something like an ego get in the way of allowing someone else to teach you a thing or two.

 

[Loveaboveall]

Doc,

I have not had the time to read through the whole thread... but it appears from what you have copied/pasted that this person is really searching to understand God. He is questioning both God's love and His justice... Which is the very thing that satan has tried to decieve since the beginning. A focus on God's love would be the first place where I would start. Isn't it God's love that draws us to Him?

 

[thecountrydoc]

sentipente you said:

Excuse me? This takes the cake. You have a really super-inflated opinion of yourself, Doc. The teacher doing your homework. This is laughable.

No sentipente, I do not have a super-inflated opinion of myself. Nor do you or any of the others who have taken exception to my original post and following post, seem to understand analogy.

The negative comments made concerning my OP in this thread only serve to confirm the fact that arguement is prefered over discussion and understanding.

Since I can physicaly respond to only so many post/questions here in these forums, as well as elswere, and engage in a limited amount of presonal witinessing, my original intent was to simply challenge every reader of this thread to do somthing constructive in witnessing for Christ. It is clear that my detractors have not accepted the challenge but rather have chosen to make light of it.

Perhaps it would be well for all to become students once again. That is, students of Jesus Christ.

Respctfully,
Doc

 

[sentipente]

my original intent was to simply challenge every reader of this thread to do somthing constructive in witnessing for Christ. [/quote]
Who gave you that authority?

 

[sentipente]

Ego's sure do get in the way of God's work don't they?...

Your ego may get in the way of your work, but it can't get itn the way of God's work. I don't know why humans think they can do God's work for Him. Is He on disability?

 

[thecountrydoc]

my original intent was to simply challenge every reader of this thread to do somthing constructive in witnessing for Christ. [/quote]
Who gave you that authority? by sentipente.

ANSWER: JESUS CHRIST

 

[thecountrydoc]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveaboveall
Ego's sure do get in the way of God's work don't they?...

Your ego may get in the way of your work, but it can't get itn the way of God's work. I don't know why humans think they can do God's work for Him. Is He on disability?

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[sentipente]

It is amazing what humans will do when they get a little bit of power.