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Seven shots into the back when just a shot into a leg would be enough to stop him (under the presupposition that he will attack) shows a heavy over-reaction.Is there racism involved? How exactly do you conclude racism played a role in the decision to shoot?
Sometimes whites behaving badly are killed. But the percentage of blacks shot to death is double of blacks in the population. If this were not the case, we might see a "lives matter" movement, but no "black lives matter".White people get shot and killed by police for behaving badly. I didn't see any racism in any of what happened.
Thanks for the link.Blake apparently was reaching for a weapon at that very time.
Police Recover Weapon From Vehicle Of WI Shooting Victim Jacob Blake
your link said:According to the Wisconsin Department of Justice, police recovered a knife from the floorboard, but the agency did not say whether Blake, a 29-year-old black man, was holding the weapon when Sheskey shot him in the back
The number of shots should not depend on the kind of weapon,, but on the number of shots needed to stop an attack.Not surprising, really. He was armed with a deadly weapon.
I don't think it is deliberate. Policemen are human, not perfect, they act under stress, and if you fear for your life you are inclined to shoot before thinking.I also agree with your observation that the right to carry weapons is a liability for anyone who has the attention of the police. Why give people the right to defend themselves if you’re just going to use their rights as another excuse to shoot them claiming self-defense yourself? It almost feels deliberate.
NOPE
UPDATE: the Department of Justice has confirmed that Jacob Blake has admitted to having a knife and that a knife was found in the driver's side floorboard of his car.............OK Here's what happened: Jacob is struggling with an officer, then, all of a sudden, the officers jump back and pull out their guns because Jacob pulled out a knife. At 0:13 one of the officers says, "he's got a knife, he's got a knife". Then Jacob's baby momma says, "put it down". At 0:18, you can see that he has something in his left hand as he walks in front of the car. The guy that recorded the video said that he heard the cops yelling about a knife. With that context, the behavior of everyone in the video makes sense. There were multiple officers on the scene. Jacob was outnumbered.....they could have restrained him but when he pulled out the knife, they all jumped back....even his baby momma jumped back....and from that point forward, Jacob casually walks away as the cops follow closely behind with guns drawn. They are keeping their distance because Jacob is armed with a deadly weapon. They can't let him get back in the car because he might have a gun in there.
It’s chilling how many people have internalized this notion that police are to be obeyed under all circumstances and a reasonable consequence for noncompliance is on-the-spot execution. Yes, it’s probably street-wise to follow cops’ instructions in the moment, but the fact that failure to do so can easily result in you being shot is nothing short of dystopian. And what’s worse, after you’ve been shot you can be sure they’ll go to work on you. They’ll dredge up any off-color history you might have; they’ll report a fistfight as a murder conviction, speeding tickets as high speed chases, a drunken night out as a hard drug problem. And what’s worse, there are regular citizens who will gleefully help spread the narrative that this person who was killed for zigging when they should have zagged really deserved to die anyway because of who they were.
I also agree with your observation that the right to carry weapons is a liability for anyone who has the attention of the police. Why give people the right to defend themselves if you’re just going to use their rights as another excuse to shoot them claiming self-defense yourself? It almost feels deliberate. The right to bear arms is the right to get shot by an agent of the state because they thought you might pull out a gun and shoot them first.
All of this amounts to agents of the state having absolute authority over all citizens, who are expected to obey or die. There’s a point where it’s just straight fascism.
"...Then Jacob's baby momma says"
Why the derogatory description of his mother?
One question I have: Assuming the suspect did have a knife, why not just back off and re-assess the situation? If had was going for a gun, I could understand the need to neutralize the suspect. But with a knife, what potential danger would he have with a knife? He would have been surrounded by police with weapons drawn....
Sometimes whites behaving badly are killed. But the percentage of blacks shot to death is double of blacks in the population. If this were not the case, we might see a "lives matter" movement, but no "black lives matter".
I’m sorry, if you’re not a black person, (even if you are a person of color), you don’t have the experience to speak for black folk.There are many reasons for that. None of them are based on being black. If you look at poor neighborhoods in general you can see the percentage of people being shot higher than surrounding areas. We need to stop the cheap foreign labor and provide jobs right here. Men in poor situations no longer have self worth. The problem isn't skin color. It's opportunity.
I’m sorry, if you’re not a black person, (even if you are a person of color), you don’t have the experience to speak for black folk.
Biden was wrong too.That's not exactly what Joe Biden told the black interviewer.
The actual quote is "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.''
Seven shots into the back when just a shot into a leg would be enough to stop him (under the presupposition that he will attack) shows a heavy over-reaction.
It's subjective, but I'm certain the policeman would have acted somewhat different if Blake had be white.
Because this all went down fast.
By the way that is a point that you should have realized if you spent more time looking at the event time stamps on the previous quote rather than fixating on the "baby momma" comment of the You-tuber poster I quoted.
Seven shots into the back when just a shot into a leg would be enough to stop him (under the presupposition that he will attack) shows a heavy over-reaction.
It's subjective, but I'm certain the policeman would have acted somewhat different if Blake had be white.
Well ... they certainly seem to act differently.Oh, you’re “certain”? How did you arrive to such certainty?
I’m sorry, if you’re not a black person, (even if you are a person of color), you don’t have the experience to speak for black folk.
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