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Another Trump lie that matters:

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by The Barbarian, Feb 8, 2020.

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  1. The Barbarian

    The Barbarian Crabby Old White Guy

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    Nope. That story won't fly. We know precisely when the policy of tossing kids in cages was prepared:

    Newly obtained government documents show how the Trump administration’s now-blocked policy to separate all migrant children from parents led social workers to frantically begin tracking thousands of children seized at the southern border and compile reports on cases of trauma.
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    Among the documents Public Integrity obtained is a September 2016 email from a child refugee specialist signaling discomfort with Customs and Border Protection’s Office of Field Operations splitting up migrant families prior to zero tolerance.


    “The best thing that could happen is for the OFO to stop the practice of family separation,” a child refugee field specialist added to the top of an email containing instructions for reunifying families that he sent to colleagues on Sept. 20, 2016.
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    Just 10 days after the specialist sent the email, a Homeland Security advisory committee issued a damning report on the damage children suffer when abruptly separated from parents. Separations were comparatively uncommon at the time, but they’d grown frequent enough to trigger a review, conducted by representatives of the American Academy of Pediatrics and civil rights groups.


    It was Trump's way of discouraging immigration:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Department of Health and Human Services official told senators Tuesday that his agency had warned the Trump administration that separating families would be dangerous for children. But some of the government’s top immigration officials used a Senate hearing to largely defend how the policy has been implemented, with one comparing family detention centers to “a summer camp.”

    One official told the Senate Judiciary Committee that while the Trump administration was developing its immigration policies, Health and Human Services officials said they were worried “about any policy which would result in family separation due to concerns we had about the best interests of the child.” Commander Jonathan D. White of the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, a branch of HHS, said they were also uncertain their department had enough resources to handle large numbers of detained immigrants.

    “There’s no question that separation of children from parents entails significant potential for traumatic psychological injury to the child,” White said.
    Official says agency warned family separation bad for kids


    His own people warned Trump that it would be damaging to the children. It only made him more determined to do it.

    Guess how Christians in Syria are doing, now that Turkey is free to go after Kurdish and Christian militias and towns in Northern Syria. Yep. Trump's cowardly withdrawal from that area threw our Christian and Kurdish allies under the bus to appease Erdogan.

    Trump abandoning Kurds could cost support of evangelical Christians

    One of the president’s staunchest constituencies has stuck by him through many controversies but Syria may be a policy lurch too far
    “It is very possible that the American withdrawal from the region will lead to the extinction of Christianity from the region,” Ashty Bahro, former director of the Evangelical Alliance of Kurdistan, told the Christianity Today news outlet.

    “An invasion by Turkey into NE Syria would pose a grave threat to the region’s Kurds and Christians, endangering the prospects of true religious freedom in the Middle East,” tweeted the evangelical leader Tony Perkins, a Trump adviser.


    The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) founder, Pat Robertson, described even more grave stakes in a broadcast on Monday.


    “I believe … the president of the United States is in danger of losing the mandate of heaven if he permits this to happen,” Robertson said.
    Trump abandoning Kurds could cost support of evangelical Christians

    This in October, when evangelical allies of Trump were calling on him to save those people.

    He refused.

    Trump's evangelical allies then abandoned those Christians as well.
     
  2. JLB777

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    LOLLLLLL!

    Another of your “facts” from “Government Documents”!


    Funny.




    JLB
     
  3. The Barbarian

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    Yep. In fact, you can read it, right here:
    DeLaCruzMigrantFamilies FOIASeparation

    The relevant part...
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    His own people were warning him But of course that was the whole point of tossing the kids into cages; it was to intimidate anyone likely to enter the U.S. seeking asylum.

    In two new interviews, Trump tries to pin blame on Obama. He has nobody to blame but himself.
    In two new interviews this week, President Donald Trump made brazen attempts to rewrite history about his administration’s ill-fated child separation policy, trying to shunt the blame to his predecessor Barack Obama.

    In both instances, Trump dodged dogged questions about the family separation policy his administration implemented last year by asserting, falsely, that he inherited it from Obama.

    Trump is trying to rewrite the history of his family separation policy before 2020

    To Trump, kids are just chips that he can threaten to get his way. This is the guy, after all, who cut off medical care for a critically ill nephew to put pressure on the kid's parents during a legal conflict.

    Would you like to learn about that?
     
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  4. crossnote

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    Funny, the only time I read the word 'cages' was in your commentary
     
  5. The Barbarian

    The Barbarian Crabby Old White Guy

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    If it was merely cages, it would be less of a horror story...



    Your dad would have taken you to the woodshed if you had treated your hamster that badly.
     
  6. The Barbarian

    The Barbarian Crabby Old White Guy

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    Hard to believe you'd hear an American administration saying this.

    Kids who stink because they haven't had a bath or laundry in months. In some cases, elementary school kids are taking care of babies, because no one else will.

    Another Trump legacy for the history books.
     
  7. JLB777

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    Save your so called “facts” for your liberal associates.


    I wouldn’t believe anything at all a liberal Democrat has to say.


    Nothing.





    JLB
     
  8. The Barbarian

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    As you see, it's just the way it is. What Trump did to kids is documented. We even have documentation that his own people warned him about it.

    That's the frustrating thing about reality. It doesn't care what you think.
     
  9. crossnote

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    The less the supportive data and the more declaration the greater the likelihood of horsefeathers.lol
     
  10. The Barbarian

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    Trump followers look upon facts the way a vampire regards a crucifix.

    This was written by one of Trump's people. The problem is, for many Trump followers, there is no fact, no evidence, no truth at all that would dissuade them from faith in their orange idol.

    Nothing.
     
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    President Trump is the greatest President this nation has ever had.

    The Democrats hate him, because he is God’s man for this hour and season.


    I for one am greatful for God’s mercy, that Hillary Clinton wasn’t elected.


    JLB
     
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  13. The Barbarian

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    Poe lives. :|

    Pelosi even prays for him. Hate the sin, love the sinner.

    I imagine Herod was part of God's plan, too. Like Trump, he went after children for political reasons. Of course, Herod merely killed them, while Trump marred them for life. As his own people warned him he would do if he kept separating small children from their parents.

    But he thought it was a wonderful way to discourage asylum applications. It's his way; he once withheld medical care from a severely-ill nephew to put pressure on the parents to settle a lawsuit with him.

    Remember God's mercy depends on repentance. Trump says he has no need of repentance. God is also just.
     
  14. The Barbarian

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    And now, the Trump campaign has upped the disinformation campaign:

     
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    Fascinating that so many choose to believe the lies from this man. It's almost as-if the latter part of 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 were about this very time.
     
  16. The Barbarian

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    Kim Clements predicted...
    "Clement says there is a "snake hidden in the capital. God says, 'I will bring it out.'"

    Or the voters will in November. One of those.
     
  17. JLB777

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    [/QUOTE]


    What does the Lord say about His man, Donald Trump?




    JLB
     
  18. The Barbarian

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    Kim Clements predicted...
    "Clement says there is a "snake hidden in the capital. God says, 'I will bring it out.'"
     
  19. The Barbarian

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    Can't be a bot. Bots are more eloquent.
     
  20. Grumman Tomcat

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    ADMIN HAT ON
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