onthegallow said:
Actually, if you really were a Christian, then you'd know that there is no such thing as an "ex-Christian".
You're either born again or you're not.
Not from what I can tell.
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Actually, if you really were a Christian, then you'd know that there is no such thing as an "ex-Christian".
You're either born again or you're not.
Not from what I can tell.
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The God of the Old Testament and the God of the New are exactly the same, but there was an element that was not directly available to the OT people. That is the grace delivered through the blood of Jesus. The righteous of the OT do fall under the umbrella of the grace of Christ, but at the same time they (while in this life) could also be subject to the wrath of God as well. Why? Because with out knowledge of the wrath, then how or why would anyone seek the available grace?
So basically the OT was the first part of God's plan or Law. The First part establishes the law itself and the consequences of breaking the law. Jesus/his sacrifice was the completion of that plan/law. In the completed form of the law/God's plan we can find the grace and goodness of God.
Because there is grace and goodness to be found when none is truly deserved this in of itself should warrant worship/love.
Reading the bible and mastery of it are two different things. Although you may have fallen short of "others" expectations in the mastery of what you have read, you should know, that to God, you are suffently educated and will to be held accountable for what you do indeed know of scripture.
Your questions seem to be a legitimate effort in searching for the truth. What you do with that truth when you find it will be another matter, and should not concern any of us. Just know what you do find, (Like in your bible reading) you will be held accountable for.
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Hi OntheGallow, here are your questions as I understand them,
1) Why does the God of the Old Testament not seem match up with the God of the New Testament? Answer, the New Covenant is superior to the Old Covenant. But under either Covenant, a person could obtain approval through devoted faith in God. Hebrews chapter 11 lays that all out.
2) Jesus did not come to abolish the law, so why don't those commands in the Old Covenant still apply? The Old Covenant was "fulfilled" by the New Covenant, so only those portions of the Old Covenant that are endorsed in the New Covenant are still requirements.
3) How would they know they were virgins. I do not know, the Bible does not say. I would guess maidens under a certain again would be assumed to be virgins because of the cultural norms of the day, but that is my guess.
4) Because God ordered the killing of babies, that seems to disqualify Him for worship. Again, God has the right of the potter to mush the clay. To say He is not doing what He should is to judge Him as if He were a man, operating under our rules.
5) Why is God worthy of worship? The Bible tells us the attributes of God, like Holy - does not sin, like Just - punishes people according to their knowledge, Merciful - gives mercy to those who love Christ with all their heart, Keeps His promises - He will do what the Bible says He will do. So the issue is, are we worthy of worship, or rather than extolling our virtues, should we extol the virtues of unconditional love, perfect justice, and divine mercy.
6) Why does God allow us to live in the corrupt world where we are predisposed to sin, and then suffer the consequences? Another way to say it is why does God not take away our choices to do other than what God desires? When we repent, we bring glory to God. This would not be true if we did not make that choice, but could only do what God desires. Thus, in order to fulfill our purpose of creation, which is to glorify God, we must have the capacity to trust in God or not.
1) Why does the God of the Old Testament not seem match up with the God of the New Testament? Answer, the New Covenant is superior to the Old Covenant. But under either Covenant, a person could obtain approval through devoted faith in God. Hebrews chapter 11 lays that all out.
2) Jesus did not come to abolish the law, so why don't those commands in the Old Covenant still apply? The Old Covenant was "fulfilled" by the New Covenant, so only those portions of the Old Covenant that are endorsed in the New Covenant are still requirements.
3) How would they know they were virgins. I do not know, the Bible does not say. I would guess maidens under a certain again would be assumed to be virgins because of the cultural norms of the day, but that is my guess.
4) Because God ordered the killing of babies, that seems to disqualify Him for worship. Again, God has the right of the potter to mush the clay. To say He is not doing what He should is to judge Him as if He were a man, operating under our rules.
5) Why is God worthy of worship? The Bible tells us the attributes of God, like Holy - does not sin, like Just - punishes people according to their knowledge, Merciful - gives mercy to those who love Christ with all their heart, Keeps His promises - He will do what the Bible says He will do. So the issue is, are we worthy of worship, or rather than extolling our virtues, should we extol the virtues of unconditional love, perfect justice, and divine mercy.
6) Why does God allow us to live in the corrupt world where we are predisposed to sin, and then suffer the consequences? Another way to say it is why does God not take away our choices to do other than what God desires? When we repent, we bring glory to God. This would not be true if we did not make that choice, but could only do what God desires. Thus, in order to fulfill our purpose of creation, which is to glorify God, we must have the capacity to trust in God or not.
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