Another look at the moon landing.

[Herman Hedning]

This article said;
'In the triumph of the day, no one at the tracking stations considered these differences and certainly the public was unaware. The engineers boxed the one-inch telemetry tapes wound onto 14-inch canister reels-which served no other purpose than to provide backup if the live relay failed-and shipped them to the Goddard Space Flight Center. From there, the tapes were sent to the Washington National Records Center (WRNC) in Suitland, Md. The engineers never saw the back-up telemetry tapes again.'

I wander why ? Like I've always said, they are all in cahoots together.

If you read the report you will find out.

 

[Apple Sky]

Charles became a Christian, after he went to and walked on, the moon.


Yes. Your answer is .........?

Kenneth Copeland believes in Jesus and teaches Jesus.
He is not correct when he teaches the prosperity Gospel, but that does not mean he lies about Jesus being his Saviour.

If Charles Duke is lying when he says "I walked on the moon", then he is also lying when he says that writes about Jesus, his Saviour and says that meeting Jesus was the best part of his life.

Why?
Charles either lied about walking in the moon and is lying about Jesus - in which case you'd expect God to punish him.
Or he is telling the truth about both.


Have you heard Charles' testimony - of how he was going through a difficult time with trouble in his marriage, and then he met Jesus? They had been a "religious" family for a while, but they didn't know Jesus. In 1975 his wife was on the verge of suicide.
Watch it, if you dare.

If you can't bear to watch the factual stuff about the moon, start it at 31 minutes in.

Even @Apple Sky has watched it, said that she honestly believed it and it briefly changed her life. (Until she changed her mind again.)

We are not talking about a one time, off the cuff lie to try to impress a friend or get out of a difficult situation. We are talking about a public testimony and Christian preaching ministry. He has been, and maybe still is, invited to churches. It's possible that unbelievers come to Christ when they hear his testimony.

When Charles heard the words, "Jesus said 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except by me'," he said to himself, "either that's the truth or the biggest con in history".
What do you say - was he lying?

So you too are a 'YouTube groupie'

 

[Strong in Him]

So you too are a 'YouTube groupie'

No.
I looked for Charles' testimony on YouTube because you watched it on YouTube when someone else gave you the link.
Also, I'm not in America and have no other way of watching him.

Stop trying to change the subject.
Was Charles lying when he said, "Either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history"?
Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

 

[Apple Sky]

If you read the report you will find out.

I'm not reading through 20 pages. Just tell us.

 

[Apple Sky]

No.
I looked for Charles' testimony on YouTube because you watched it on YouTube when someone else gave you the link.

And who might this someone else be ?

 

[Strong in Him]

And who might this someone else be ?

You're changing the subject.
Was Charles lying when he said, "Either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history"?
Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

 

[Apple Sky]

You're changing the subject.

No I'm not, who was this someone else ?

 

[Herman Hedning]

I'm not reading through 20 pages. Just tell us.

It's not that hard. Try it.

 

[Strong in Him]

No I'm not, who was this someone else ?

No idea, it was in another thread. Though it's possible that you found his testimony for yourself.
Either way, you watched it and know that you did.

Was Charles lying when he said, "Either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history"?
Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

 

[Apple Sky]

No idea, it was in another thread. Though it's possible that you found his testimony for yourself.

Why would I post it ?

 

[Strong in Him]

Why would I post it ?

Ok, so you're obviously too scared to say that Charles was lying when he gave his public testimony of how he met Jesus. Of how he said, "either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history".
That's good. I didn't think you'd be able to say he was lying about Jesus being the Way.

It's not feasible to say that this part of Charles' testimony is true, but the bit about the moon landing is a lie.
It's all true, or it's all a lie. You once believed it was all true.

 

[Apple Sky]

Ok, so you're obviously too scared to say that Charles was lying when he gave his public testimony of how he met Jesus.

I'm not to scared to say anything.

It's not feasible to say that this part of Charles' testimony is true, but the bit about the moon landing is a lie.

Why ?

You once believed it was all true.

Once but not now ever since TFE thread.

 

[Strong in Him]

Why ?

Because it would cancel out the first part of the talk/testimony.

If Charles' talk about applying for the space mission, being accepted, having fellow astronauts who died in Apollo 1, getting to and walking on the moon etc is false, a lie, then there is no reason at all to listen to what he says about Jesus. There is no reason to believe that his marriage was in a bad way and his wife was on the brink of suicide. Why bother? The man's already lied and proved he is a crackpot/fairy story teller/liar.
"Goodnight, thanks for nothing, let's go and get a burger."

But if you are a non Christian (and I don't mean you, personally), you listen to, and believe, his account of landing on the moon and THEN hear him talk about Jesus, you will be more inclined to listen.
"What? This respected astronaut who had everything, was unhappy till he met Jesus? Maybe Jesus IS real and can help me."

Once but not now ever since TFE thread.

Doesn't matter.
Fact is that you "hand on heart" believed him.

 

[Apple Sky]

But if you are a non Christian (and I don't mean you, personally), you listen to, and believe, his account of landing on the moon and THEN hear him talk about Jesus, you will be more inclined to listen.

Just as explaining Genesis 1 does to none Christians.

Doesn't matter.
Fact is that you "hand on heart" believed him.

But like I said, now I truly believe that nobody has walked on the moon, no not one & I don't care what anyone says, all astronauts are Freemason's.

 

[Strong in Him]

But like I said, now I truly believe that nobody has walked on the moon, no not one & I don't care what anyone says, all astronauts are Freemason's.

So you don't care about evidence, the truth etc, only about your own ideas.

Well all I can say is "good luck with telling God that one of his children is a Freemason and liar."
Charles Duke has confessed and received Jesus as Saviour and Lord - like it or not, in God's eyes he is equal with you.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you don't care about evidence, the truth etc, only about your own ideas.

I care very much about the truth, why do you think I'm here & they are not ideas, this all boils down to logic & not living in Never Never land as you all seem to be doing right now.

 

[Strong in Him]

I care very much about the truth,

Only your truth.
You "don't care what anyone says", your belief is that all astronauts are Freemasons.
You can't/won't answer the questions;
Was Charles lying when he said, "Either Jesus' claim to be the Way, the Truth and the Life is true or it's the biggest con in history"?
Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

You can't admit that he was telling the truth because that would mean accepting the photographs taken from the moon/space which show the earth to be a globe.
That would finish your beliefs.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and salvation and is not important. But your beliefs would be shattered if you admitted that Charles was telling the truth and the moon landings happened.

 

[Apple Sky]

Was he lying when he said that his wife was on the verge of suicide and had tried everything - except Jesus?

No - But maybe Jesus was his last resort & don't forget this was whey after he had supposedly walked on the the moon and his love for money & the debt he had accumulated.
I'm under the impression that many of these astronauts have signed some sort of NDA form & if they speak out it's the chop for them and their families.

You can't admit that he was telling the truth because that would mean accepting the photographs taken from the moon/space which show the earth to be a globe.
That would finish your beliefs.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and salvation and is not important. But your beliefs would be shattered if you admitted that Charles was telling the truth and the moon landings happened.

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

 

[prodromos]

You say the following:

I'm under the impression that many of these astronauts have signed some sort of NDA form & if they speak out it's the chop for them and their families.

and then you immediately sum up your own claims with the following:

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

I could not agree more with this sentiment. It describes all your posts on this topic.

 

[Strong in Him]

Absolute rubbish, try again .........

It's not absolute rubbish.
But I'm not "trying again" because I've had it.

I have wasted far too much time on this nonsense - mistakenly believing that you might actually be open to serious debate.
You aren't.
When asked whether or not Charles Duke was being truthful in his testimony, you didn't answer but changed the subject.
When pushed for an answer, your response was "I don't care what anyone says the astronauts were Freemasons."
That's it - you don't care unless someone believes the same things that you do. Everyone's a liar except you.

So I don't care either. Slag off other Christians all you want - and then you'll be on your own before God trying to justify why you did that.
There are many positive, and uplifting things that I can be doing for God.
This thread is not one of them.

Have fun