Angina makes me "high"

[timewerx]

I've never done drugs my entire life. I'm not taking meds of any kind either. No food supplements. I don't smoke, I don't even drink coffee.

I consume red wine but in very tiny amount like only 2 tsp a day in a snack I make.

I've had angina (chest pains related to the heart) since the age of 12. But in the last few years, I'm also experiencing strange sensations when having angina. It started happening just weeks after my dad was diagnosed of cancer few years ago which my dad died from eventually.

The sensations increased in intensity as time went by.

It has come to a point where it feels absolutely incredible, I can't even feel the pain anymore. The "high" overwhelms it completely.

It feels like you're slowly lifted up. Your feet leaves the ground. Then comes the "moment" the overwhelming feeling of excitement. You're everywhere in the Universe at once.

It feels so real and amazing. Absolutely the best feeling. I know angina is supposed to be bad, but now I'm somewhat looking forward to my next angina attack because of intensely incredible feeling and sensations I get from it.

Though it seems these sensations also cut short the duration of angina so maybe it's some kind of natural emergency response so it don't turn into full blown heart attack. I don't know, never had it checked. Probably won't even bother. Makes me feel incredible and I probably couldn't afford the medications anyway.

 

[actionsub]

DISCLAIMER: not a doctor, but a patient...

The symptoms you're describing, including the "high" feeling, might be an indicator that you're perhaps
experiencing something like an anxiety attack. The fact that these sensations started after your father's
diagnosis of terminal cancer might be an subconscious fear that the angina might signal something
terminal for you.

Again, not a doctor, but a patient. Take my advice for what it's worth, but SEE A DOCTOR.

 

[Benjamin Müller]

Sounds like your body might be releasing endorphins to overcome the pain; can also happen during a panic attack. If your body is at the point its countering your angina attacks with a massive dose of endorphines (assumed) then it might be a good idea to see a doctor. Sounds like the extreme counteraction could be indictive of something big coming. Not a doctor, but I'd talk to your GP or cardiologist about it. Tremors often happen before earthquakes. . .just sayin'.

 

[timewerx]

Sounds like your body might be releasing endorphins to overcome the pain; can also happen during a panic attack. If your body is at the point its countering your angina attacks with a massive dose of endorphines (assumed) then it might be a good idea to see a doctor. Sounds like the extreme counteraction could be indictive of something big coming. Not a doctor, but I'd talk to your GP or cardiologist about it. Tremors often happen before earthquakes. . .just sayin'.

I caught colds or Covid last week and quickly turned into myocarditis. I got symptoms of heart attack. Pains in the chest, my hands got cold and numb. My BP went up and my resting heart rate have doubled or increased 100% followed by severe headache and nausea.

I simply took a rest and slept most of the day. Most of the symptoms went away overnight especially the headache and nausea and now, my BP and heart rate is back to normal levels.

I can't go to the doctor. I'm not insured, no money, and I have already talked to my mom and sister in the worst case scenario, I'll receive no treatment and won't be revived. I can deal with lots of pain without any medication. Probably from the natural endorphins like you said.

When my dad died from stage 4 cancer, we spent a lot of money, end up in a huge debt we are still struggling to pay off and will continue to struggle for a long time. And still did not save him. So I'm not going to add any more problems to the debt burdens my family is already dealing with. My salary isn't enough to make up for the payment that I'll be better off dead than alive with more debt.

 

[Benjamin Müller]

I caught colds or Covid last week and quickly turned into myocarditis. I got symptoms of heart attack. Pains in the chest, my hands got cold and numb. My BP went up and my resting heart rate have doubled or increased 100% followed by severe headache and nausea.

I simply took a rest and slept most of the day. Most of the symptoms went away overnight especially the headache and nausea and now, my BP and heart rate is back to normal levels.

I can't go to the doctor. I'm not insured, no money, and I have already talked to my mom and sister in the worst case scenario, I'll receive no treatment and won't be revived. I can deal with lots of pain without any medication. Probably from the natural endorphins like you said.

When my dad died from stage 4 cancer, we spent a lot of money, end up in a huge debt we are still struggling to pay off and will continue to struggle for a long time. And still did not save him. So I'm not going to add any more problems to the debt burdens my family is already dealing with. My salary isn't enough to make up for the payment that I'll be better off dead than alive with more debt.

I'm sorry about your dad and financial stuff. And I do understand. I tried to give up on life back in 2016/17 by not seeing doctors, but God didn't allow me to clock out just yet. Lol. I got forced into the hospital and here I am. So, if it's not God's intent, you're not leaving but that's not to say He won't force you into the hospital.

I understand people will pay bills out of integrity, but if any of the bills are medical/hospital bills in your dad's name, you can just not pay. Legally they can't do anything to you. I don't know what the finances are, though. I know when my grandpa died, he had a $40,000 mortgage and they had to sell land to pay it off, otherwise my uncle, who was living in the house, would have had the house foreclosed on and mom wasn't going to have her brother homeless. But seriously anything solely in your dad's name that wouldn't impact your mom, you could just toss to the wayside.

If you don't want medicines or to talk to a doctor, maybe you could look into herbs? I mean if you've already accepted your fate then adding in an herbal supplement isn't going to do anything worse than what might happen in the near or distant future.

I think you should stay on for your moms sake as long as possible. Losing you would be added pain and stress to your mom. I'm sure she needs you. Try to stick out, at the very least, for her sake.

 

[timewerx]

I'm sorry about your dad and financial stuff. And I do understand. I tried to give up on life back in 2016/17 by not seeing doctors, but God didn't allow me to clock out just yet. Lol. I got forced into the hospital and here I am. So, if it's not God's intent, you're not leaving but that's not to say He won't force you into the hospital.

I understand people will pay bills out of integrity, but if any of the bills are medical/hospital bills in your dad's name, you can just not pay. Legally they can't do anything to you. I don't know what the finances are, though. I know when my grandpa died, he had a $40,000 mortgage and they had to sell land to pay it off, otherwise my uncle, who was living in the house, would have had the house foreclosed on and mom wasn't going to have her brother homeless. But seriously anything solely in your dad's name that wouldn't impact your mom, you could just toss to the wayside.

If you don't want medicines or to talk to a doctor, maybe you could look into herbs? I mean if you've already accepted your fate then adding in an herbal supplement isn't going to do anything worse than what might happen in the near or distant future.

I think you should stay on for your moms sake as long as possible. Losing you would be added pain and stress to your mom. I'm sure she needs you. Try to stick out, at the very least, for her sake.

We owe it to a relative who isn't doing very well financially now so I am convicted to pay off our debt even if they're not pressuring us even if we're not obligated by law. I just feel it's the right thing to do. And sadly, it isn't our only debt to pay. There's more.

There's a pretty good chance I'm going to out-live my mom. She's not in a very good shape and my health is still better. I just get heart attack like symptoms every now and then but my BP, heart rate, etc, is way better than hers.

I'm already into a diet and lifestyle that prevents or postpones the worst case scenario for me. It's working out so well for me so far. It has so far healed my hypertension, migraines, and even my pre-diabetes. The fact of the matter is I'd be dead now if not for these lifestyle changes. Problems with my heart isn't improving and I think chronic stress has a lot to do with it. This is something not even supplements can cure.

There's really nothing we can do if our time is up. We won't always be handed the opportunity to save ourselves. It's not a big loss really if you're a a believer. The life that awaits is infinitely better than this one.

 

[Benjamin Müller]

There's really nothing we can do if our time is up. We won't always be handed the opportunity to save ourselves. It's not a big loss really if you're a a believer. The life that awaits is infinitely better than this one.

Agreed. I'm dealing with chronic anemia and just got my 80th iron infusion. I feel like I could clock out at any moment, but I also know that if it's God's will I live, He'll part the sea so I can escape away on dry ground. I don't fight through this life for myself, but rather for my family and my cats. I look at this life not as a playground, but a training ground for the eternal life God promised to those who obey Him. So my Christian character is the most important thing to accomplish in this world.

It's good you got a level head and have accepted the situation with grace. And you've got more integrity than me in regards to some of the debts.

 

[timewerx]

Agreed. I'm dealing with chronic anemia and just got my 80th iron infusion. I feel like I could clock out at any moment, but I also know that if it's God's will I live, He'll part the sea so I can escape away on dry ground. I don't fight through this life for myself, but rather for my family and my cats. I look at this life not as a playground, but a training ground for the eternal life God promised to those who obey Him. So my Christian character is the most important thing to accomplish in this world.

It's good you got a level head and have accepted the situation with grace. And you've got more integrity than me in regards to some of the debts.

Because my life's predicaments are so difficult, living has become a torture.

Probably why I'm so level headed about death because it looks far more lucrative than the life I'm dealing with.

Don't get me wrong that I've lost hope in this life because I haven't and never will. My hope and faith in the Lord will NEVER die. But as any normal, feeling, human being, I am craving for some rest and it seems that death might give me rest from all my life's seemingly unending problems.

 

[returntosender]

I've never done drugs my entire life. I'm not taking meds of any kind either. No food supplements. I don't smoke, I don't even drink coffee.

I consume red wine but in very tiny amount like only 2 tsp a day in a snack I make.

I've had angina (chest pains related to the heart) since the age of 12. But in the last few years, I'm also experiencing strange sensations when having angina. It started happening just weeks after my dad was diagnosed of cancer few years ago which my dad died from eventually.

The sensations increased in intensity as time went by.

It has come to a point where it feels absolutely incredible, I can't even feel the pain anymore. The "high" overwhelms it completely.

It feels like you're slowly lifted up. Your feet leaves the ground. Then comes the "moment" the overwhelming feeling of excitement. You're everywhere in the Universe at once.

It feels so real and amazing. Absolutely the best feeling. I know angina is supposed to be bad, but now I'm somewhat looking forward to my next angina attack because of intensely incredible feeling and sensations I get from it.

Though it seems these sensations also cut short the duration of angina so maybe it's some kind of natural emergency response so it don't turn into full blown heart attack. I don't know, never had it checked. Probably won't even bother. Makes me feel incredible and I probably couldn't afford the medications anyway.

You need to go to the doctor soon. Light headedness from impeded blood flow to the brain. You are close to fainting.

 

[Petros2015]

Light headedness from impeded blood flow to the brain.

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too as possible cause for the sensation being described.

 

[Tranquil Bondservant]

Please go to the doctor. I understand that it's expensive for Americans but what you may lose compared to what you may gain is incomparable. Your heavenly Father doesn't want you to die, He wants you to keep on living as long as you can.

 

[timewerx]

You need to go to the doctor soon. Light headedness from impeded blood flow to the brain. You are close to fainting.

Thanks. I came close to fainting several times my whole life (never fainted though). But this feels a lot different when you're about to faint.

When you're about to faint, I can feel I'm losing consciousness and that noticeable feeling in my head (lightheadedness?). But this one does the opposite. I start to feel even more conscious, awake, and alert.

If there's any pain I'm feeling, the pain goes away. In addition I start to feel like I'm starting to float off the ground but in a very stable manner. This happened a few times while I'm standing and I remained standing exactly the same way when whatever it is that happened had ended.

When I'm about to faint, I often lose balance while I'm standing, I will always move off to somewhere to regain balance and avoid falling over.

 

[returntosender]

Well it scares me that you feel delight in it. You need to go to the doc. And keep going til they fix you. Think about it. How would it be if the next time you didn't wake up? How would it be to all around you?

 

[timewerx]

Please go to the doctor. I understand that it's expensive for Americans but what you may lose compared to what you may gain is incomparable. Your heavenly Father doesn't want you to die, He wants you to keep on living as long as you can.

I already told my family some time ago, I will not receive any medical care if I become terribly ill.

*Correction* The heavenly Father doesn't want His children to lose their salvation.... But our mortality is of much less concern. Otherwise, he'd have allowed His disciples to live to be a hundred! Most of them did not live to a ripe old age.

The flesh is of no value (John 6:63)

When the huge crowd following Jesus finally had enough of the things He is talking about they left him. (John 6:66)

They were only there for Jesus for the miracles and the blessings but not the for the "mission" where you are likely to lose your life and not reach a ripe old age (from the general tone of Christ's teachings in the New Testament)

 

[returntosender]

So you're deciding your end not God? You know he expects you to take care of yourself and live a long healthy life. If he wanted you dead you would be. With your thinking your family could commit you. You're not thinking straight.

 

[timewerx]

Well it scares me that you feel delight in it. You need to go to the doc. And keep going til they fix you. Think about it. How would it be if the next time you didn't wake up? How would it be to all around you?

If I have not said it before, the unusual physical reaction literally gives good feelings. Not that I'm having twisted sense of pleasure from it but the physical reaction literally gives good feelings.

Like if you're in any kind of pain, the pain goes away. If you're feeling depressed and hopeless, the feeling is reversed, you get renewed sense of hope, another chance. If you're imagining anything at that moment, the imagination becomes quite vivid and you can perceive it in the 5 senses. If it happened while you're watching a movie, you become part of the movie.

The last time I've been drunk, 15 years ago, this one feels better, way better.

I'm not taking any meds of any kind, not even food supplements.

 

[Tranquil Bondservant]

I already told my family some time ago, I will not receive any medical care if I become terribly ill.

*Correction* The heavenly Father doesn't want His children to lose their salvation.... But our mortality is of much less concern. Otherwise, he'd have allowed His disciples to live to be a hundred! Most of them did not live to a ripe old age.

The flesh is of no value (John 6:63)

When the huge crowd following Jesus finally had enough of the things He is talking about they left him. (John 6:66)

They were only there for Jesus for the miracles and the blessings but not the for the "mission" where you are likely to lose your life and not reach a ripe old age (from the general tone of Christ's teachings in the New Testament)

Brother The Lord does not want you to give up your life in vain. The flesh itself does not only refer to the body, but the sinful impulses from it. Yes it's true that death is to be counted as nothing, however, that's in the context of your life in Christ. To give up on life is not advocated in The Bible in the manner in which you're arguing for. It's given up self-sacrificially, laid down for others or for Christ. There's also a distinction between accepting death and actively wanting to die. I never mentioned miracles, I asked you to go get a check up with a doctor to make sure you're not throwing your life away. Your death doesn't only impact you, it impacts those who love you and are around you.

Giving in to suicidal tendencies is not what our Creator wants and you know that. Brother have you thought about seeking help for mental health concerns? If you're at the point where you're giving in to death over something that could **potentially** be easily managed, maybe if only for your family's sake or those who love you, you should go and try and combat this thinking? I'm sure there are government subsidised programs where you can receive free or affordable counselling if you look for them. Though admittedly my knowledge on health programs in the U.S is not the best.

God bless .

Edit: The flesh which you mentioned in your usage of John 6:63 is held in contrast with the Spirit. We’re to sow in The Spirit (Galatians 6:8) while we’re alive. And also do things in The Spirit while we’re alive, which is why the context of the passage you used is not referring you to the idea that you should seek death. It’s saying that the Spirit is life and that the flesh is death. So do things not according to the flesh, but to the Spirit (which requires you to be alive). So you can’t just look at all passages in The Bible and determine that all mentions of the flesh are referring to the whole body. Even though it may be true in some sense, just not the fullness of the matter (i.e. pertaining to what ‘the flesh’ means). God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezekiel 33:11), much less His children. Death itself is also considered an enemy (1 Corinthians 15:26). So please brother, for your sake and for the sake of those who love you (including your Heavenly Father), please do your best to not seek to die from health complications .

 

[ozso]

If I have not said it before, the unusual physical reaction literally gives good feelings. Not that I'm having twisted sense of pleasure from it but the physical reaction literally gives good feelings.

Like if you're in any kind of pain, the pain goes away. If you're feeling depressed and hopeless, the feeling is reversed, you get renewed sense of hope, another chance. If you're imagining anything at that moment, the imagination becomes quite vivid and you can perceive it in the 5 senses. If it happened while you're watching a movie, you become part of the movie.

The last time I've been drunk, 15 years ago, this one feels better, way better.

I'm not taking any meds of any kind, not even food supplements.

What are your plans if you end up having a stroke and one side of your body becomes paralyzed and your cognitive functions are impaired?

 

[timewerx]

So you're deciding your end not God?

maybe if only for your family's sake or those who love you, you should go and try and combat this thinking? I'm sure there are government subsidised programs where you can receive free or affordable counselling if you look for them. Though admittedly my knowledge on health programs in the U.S is not the best.

Sure if I had some money to spare and even health insurance, I would absolutely love to take advantage of modern medicine.

But as it is, my parents left us a huge debt burden and I'm too socially inept to get a more decent job with stable income so we're dealing with a chronic deficit.

I live in a poor "banana republic" country and the choice I'm making is relatively common here. There isn't a lot that can help you if anything goes wrong and you happen to have no money.

I've actually told about it to my sister and she did not object that if I end up with a serious health problem, she's not taking me to the hospital. She did not even try to change my mind because she knows the magnitude of our situation. There's really nothing we can do.

Giving in to suicidal tendencies is not what our Creator wants

I'm not at all! Where money is keeping me pressed tightly against a wall, in other areas of my life where I still have some control with money out of the way, I work on them.

Things like the food I eat, and exercise. Avoiding junk food, fast food, sweets. In fact I make some of my food from raw materials like whole grain flour and raw cocoa. Saves money and is healthier.

30 minutes of medium intensity strength and cardio exercise per day and longer during the weekends. I managed to keep my weight range well within the normal weight and my blood pressure normal without taking any medication. I'm fit enough to do marathons without preparation.

At least in areas were I did not have to spend any dime, I'm doing my best to stay healthy.

 

[timewerx]

What are your plans if you end up having a stroke and one side of your body becomes paralyzed and your cognitive functions are impaired?

That happening to poor families in this poor country, the stroke sufferer essentially live the rest of their lives in virtual hell without medical intervention. Some commit suicide. My grand father committed suicide under similar conditions.