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Hello @ArmyMatt, @zippy2006, et al, I'm waiting to hear from a couple of people concerning the Reformed POV on this, and hoping that they can answer my central question, "if the difference is the guilt, what difference does the guilt make?", from that perspective.
I would still like to hear how the EOC and RCC answer the question, but just getting a more thorough understanding about those two beliefs (where they are the same and how they differ from one another, officially) would be enough.
I didn't intend to leave the thread for this long, and I wanted to make sure that you all knew that (and that I am hoping to return with more information ASAP).
Thank you all for taking your time to help me research this
God bless you!!
--David
p.s. - Original Guilt seems to be taught in the following passage, at least in part (see the portions in bold), but I don't believe the RCC or the Reformers teach that anyone will actually be judged and condemned by God on that basis (and neither does the Bible, except in the passage below). Earlier in Romans the Apostle told us plainly that those outside of Christ will be judged and condemned by God on the basis of what they know and understand of the Law (the Law of Moses, or just the law that God wrote on their hearts from birth if they have access to no other law), as well what they did with that knowledge and understanding, of course .. Romans 2:12-16.
Thus my (principal) question.
I would still like to hear how the EOC and RCC answer the question, but just getting a more thorough understanding about those two beliefs (where they are the same and how they differ from one another, officially) would be enough.
I didn't intend to leave the thread for this long, and I wanted to make sure that you all knew that (and that I am hoping to return with more information ASAP).
Thank you all for taking your time to help me research this
God bless you!!
--David
p.s. - Original Guilt seems to be taught in the following passage, at least in part (see the portions in bold), but I don't believe the RCC or the Reformers teach that anyone will actually be judged and condemned by God on that basis (and neither does the Bible, except in the passage below). Earlier in Romans the Apostle told us plainly that those outside of Christ will be judged and condemned by God on the basis of what they know and understand of the Law (the Law of Moses, or just the law that God wrote on their hearts from birth if they have access to no other law), as well what they did with that knowledge and understanding, of course .. Romans 2:12-16.
Thus my (principal) question.
Romans 5
15 The free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.
16 The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification.
17 For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
19 For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
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