An open debate to Atheists on a creator.

[FormerAtheist]

By the way what do you think that little data dump was>?

Nothing

Nothing
The data is mounting and I am but a fool in this.
Nothing

But I will fight.

 

[Jimmy D]

"it remains a mystery how the undirected process of mutation, combined with natural selection, has resulted in the creation of thousands of new proteins with extraordinarily diverse and well optimized functions. This problem is particularly acute for tightly integrated molecular systems that consist of many interacting parts…"
Wait what?
How is that I have so many scientists saying this over and over and over again?

We have a problem ladies and gentlemen.
We have a problem in what we are told and what scientists are actually saying.

Stop believing what you were told.

It is wrong.

You’re telling us not to believe what we’re told whilst posting uncredited quotes to bolster your position?

Which is it?

 

[VirOptimus]

Wait I have to be a scientist in order to have an opinion?

But what if everyone of us is a scientist? What if everyone of us has a stake in this and we all are able to decipher the science that is before us? Why should we even be allowed to put forth a debate on a forum? What makes you think that you or myself is better then anyone else to make an argument? And what would make our arguments better then anyone elses? Who am I?

I am garbage.

I will admit it. I hate it but it is truth.

I am nothing and yet I do have a right to fight you in your ignorance.

And I will fight you in your ignorance.

Why shouldn't I? Am I I'm no garbage so low that I am not worthy of fighting you?

I would say no.

Peer-review is the way science is formed. Its clear you dont understand the basics.

Also, one doesnt have "opinions" on science, one accepts it or not. All with regards to data and supporting evidence.

 

[FormerAtheist]

You’re telling us not to believe what we’re told whilst posting uncredited quotes to bolster your position?

Which is it?

Don't do this now.
Now I have access to my notes.
Joseph W. Thornton and Rob DeSalle, “Gene Family Evolution and Homology: Genomics Meets Phylogenetics,” Annual Review of Genomics and Human Genetics, 1:41-73 (2000).

 

[FormerAtheist]

Peer-review is the way science is formed. Its clear you dont understand the basics.

Also, one doesnt have "opinions" on science, one accepts it or not. All with regards to data and supporting evidence.

No I have all the knowledge I need and by the way in this very thread what was one of the first things I said?

I told you I have debated hundreds of atheists including scientists face to face.

Did you think I was just saying that or do you think it was fact?

Obviously you think I was just saying that.

No I wasn't you wouldn't be the first to "bring" the science or the facts. Go for it.

And yet it only tests me and makes me challenge myself ... it makes me stronger as a result.

I have gone at it with the scientists in their fields .. been there. Doesn't mean anything.

Nothing means anything.

Everyone is a scientist.

Everyone has the same level of opinion. Your are not above me even though your labels may be that. It means nothing. In the end the only thing that matters is the strength of the argument.

 

[VirOptimus]

No I have all the knowledge I need and by the way in this very thread what was one of the first things I said?

I told you I have debated hundreds of atheists including scientists face to face.

Did you think I was just saying that or do you think it was fact?

Obviously you think I was just saying that.

No I wasn't you wouldn't be the first to "bring" the science or the facts. Go for it.

And yet it only tests me and makes me challenge myself ... it makes me stronger as a result.

I have gone at it with the scientists in their fields .. been there. Doesn't mean anything.

Nothing means anything.

Everyone is a scientist.

Everyone has the same level of opinion. Your are not above me even though your labels may be that. It means nothing. In the end the only thing that matters is the strength of the argument.

As I said; write an article for peer-review, if you cant then your "opinions" doesnt matter.

I couldnbt care less about who you have debated or not. I can only judge you by your posts which are woefully ignorant and ill-informed regarding science, atheism and theology.

 

[FormerAtheist]

You’re telling us not to believe what we’re told whilst posting uncredited quotes to bolster your position?

Which is it?

You do know that is a quote by a fellow atheist right>?

Just asking because those are not my words.

 

[FormerAtheist]

As I said; write an article for peer-review, if you cant then your "opinions" doesnt matter.

I couldnbt care less about who you have debated or not. I can only judge you by your posts which are woefully ignorant and ill-informed regarding science, atheism and theology.

So then only people that post in peer reviewed papers need post on this debate? Have you?

 

[FormerAtheist]

As I said; write an article for peer-review, if you cant then your "opinions" doesnt matter.

I couldnbt care less about who you have debated or not. I can only judge you by your posts which are woefully ignorant and ill-informed regarding science, atheism and theology.

Do you understand how religious and conforming this sounds how offensive to those of us that believe in freedom and discovery?

Maybe not

 

[VirOptimus]

So then only people that post in peer reviewed papers need post on this debate? Have you?

If you want to challange well-established science, write an aritcle for peer-review. thats the way it works. It isnt some rule I just made up.

 

[VirOptimus]

Do you understand how religious and conforming this sounds how offensive to those of us that believe in freedom and discovery?

Maybe not

You are free to be as ignorant as you want, but if you want to be taken seriously in a science debate then you should educate yourself on the basics.

 

[FormerAtheist]

You are free to be as ignorant as you want, but if you want to be taken seriously in a science debate then you should educate yourself on the basics.

Well then be the master ... do it!

How should I do this?
How can we be in line of your genius?
Please show us:

Show me how I should do what you would like. I want to submit to your amazing mental disorder and I love it and want to go forward with is please enlighten we could all use some serious instructions.

 

[FormerAtheist]

You are free to be as ignorant as you want, but if you want to be taken seriously in a science debate then you should educate yourself on the basics.

Ummm what basics lol. Seriously do you think you have some basics that I am not aware of or have debated or have not catalogued ... want some ... get some? Do you know how much energy I am putting into this?

No you don't.

 

[FormerAtheist]

You are free to be as ignorant as you want, but if you want to be taken seriously in a science debate then you should educate yourself on the basics.

By the way the Christians are not in the mix. I am in the fight without them. They will not help me so the are irrelevant. I am on my own. Do you think I care about it?

No I will still fight your ideology because I was a member.

I know what I fight.

I will fight alone and I don't care.

 

[VirOptimus]

By the way the Christians are not in the mix. I am in the fight without them. They will not help me so the are irrelevant. I am on my own. Do you think I care about it?

No I will still fight your ideology because I was a member.

I know what I fight.

I will fight alone and I don't care.

Atheism isnt an ideology. And I sincerely doubt that you are anything but a white christian male with a chip on your shoulder regardless of your posturing.

Fight? You have weird ideas about science debates.

 

[Skreeper]

By the way the Christians are not in the mix. I am in the fight without them. They will not help me so the are irrelevant. I am on my own. Do you think I care about it?

No I will still fight your ideology because I was a member.

I know what I fight.

I will fight alone and I don't care.

Does your "fight" include screaming very loudly at your monitor?

 

[FormerAtheist]

Does your "fight" include screaming very loudly at your monitor?

Only when I see questionable dudes in white dancing ... .... come on man ... you have to change that ... please ... we have spoken about this

 

[FormerAtheist]

Does your "fight" include screaming very loudly at your monitor?

How long did it take you to find me on this thread?

Dude ... just dude?

 

[FormerAtheist]

Does your "fight" include screaming very loudly at your monitor?

Honeslty I am trying right now to call a woman that has an accent.

She is very attractive and in another continent.

I think the world of her because she is ... well.

She is all that.

With the crazy accent right?

And a classical pianist lol.

But that's not what I like about her.

I just like her ... because. Something evolution could not explain. Why would she even be interested in me? Could it be that I am a composer as well? How does that work with evolution lol?

 

[Skreeper]

Only when I see questionable dudes in white dancing ... .... come on man ... you have to change that ... please ... we have spoken about this

How about no?