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An Experiment?

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I will try to be fair and honest. But please forgive me if my Faith hinders me from pulling this off.

Anyway...

I am at this point an intelligent person but with no concept of the origination of life.

I want an evolutionist to explain how my world and I came into being.


(I am probably not the best person to pull this off):)
 

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Put succinctly, the theory of evolution does not provide an explanation for the origin of life, nor does it seek to do so. The theory of evolution provides an explanation for the origin of species from common ancestors.
 
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Originally posted by Mechanical Bliss
Put succinctly, the theory of evolution does not provide an explanation for the origin of life, nor does it seek to do so. The theory of evolution provides an explanation for the origin of species from common ancestors.

And my question to those who 'label' themselves 'pure' creationists...i.e. those of you I see stating evolution is evil, evolution is the great lie, blah..blah..blah...

after this definition?  I have to question...why do so many Christians view evolution as a threat to their religious convictions?
 
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Originally posted by Smilin
And my question to those who 'label' themselves 'pure' creationists...i.e. those of you I see stating evolution is evil, evolution is the great lie, blah..blah..blah...

after this definition?  I have to question...why do so many Christians view evolution as a threat to their religious convictions?

It depends. If someone is saying that everything formed by itself, they are generally trying to imply that God isn't needed. At least, that is the impression that I get.
 
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It depends. If someone is saying that everything formed by itself, they are generally trying to imply that God isn't needed.

That's the thing of it.  From what science has observed, God isn't needed.  All the evidence supports common ancestory.  Sure, there are missing pieces to the puzzle, but those pieces don't automatically necessitate the existence of a creator.  This is called the God of the gaps, and the gaps have been getting smaller and smaller as science progresses.  I am sure that trend will continue into the future.
 
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Originally posted by s0uljah
It depends. If someone is saying that everything formed by itself, they are generally trying to imply that God isn't needed. At least, that is the impression that I get.

but that's my point Souljah,

Evolutionary science doesn't deal with the origin of life...

 
 
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Originally posted by Smilin
Evolutionary science doesn't deal with the origin of life... 
 

Agreed.  That's always been my stance.  If evolution explains out creation, then what does everything evolve from?  In order for something to evolve, it has to have existed.  If we do indeed exist, which apparently we do, then what caused that existance.
 
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If we do indeed exist, which apparently we do, then what caused that existance.

No one will ever know how life on earth completely started, but if it makes people feel better to say god did it that's fine with me. :)

But we will never know.
 
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And my point is illustrated by "OneBigToe" posting this...

That's the thing of it. From what science has observed, God isn't needed. All the evidence supports common ancestory. Sure, there are missing pieces to the puzzle, but those pieces don't automatically necessitate the existence of a creator. This is called the God of the gaps, and the gaps have been getting smaller and smaller as science progresses. I am sure that trend will continue into the future.
 
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Originally posted by seesaw
No one will ever know how life on earth completely started, but if it makes people feel better to say god did it that's fine with me. :)

But we will never know.

awwww come on seesaw!!!

Have faith in science!

Some said we'd never fly, never reach the moon, never erradicate small pox...etc...etc....

Why can't we determine the true origin of life?
 
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If I can explain why people fall from high places to low places, without invoking God's name, does that mean God isn't "needed"? Not really; it doesn't address anything. Keep in mind, some people objected to gravitation on just those grounds.

We shouldn't reject an explanation of *how* a thing happened because it contradicts a belief about *why* it happened.
 
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Originally posted by Smilin
awwww come on seesaw!!!

Have faith in science!

Some said we'd never fly, never reach the moon, never erradicate small pox...etc...etc....

Why can't we determine the true origin of life?

OT: Apparently, there is fear small pox is coming back :(
 
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Originally posted by Smilin
awwww come on seesaw!!!

Have faith in science!

Some said we'd never fly, never reach the moon, never erradicate small pox...etc...etc....

Why can't we determine the true origin of life?

Cause I don't think there is enough evidence left to find the origin of life on earth.
 
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and souljah...
Big Toe's poste is representative of some (not all) scientists.
Many scientists are Christians, Hindus, Muslims, etc...etc...

On the contrary, science does not eliminate a Creator.
As far as common ancestory is concerned, as he pointed out..the gaps are huge, the evidence is still inconclusive, and the interpretations of what has been found leads to further speculation.

True, the existance of Hominids cannot be denied. Whether or not modern man descended from them is still yet to be proven.

Regards,
Smilin
 
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Originally posted by JesusServant
OT: Apparently, there is fear small pox is coming back :(

Government over-reaction and propoganda hype to instill fear in the majority to support our governments desire to wage war on Iraq, maybe even North Korea, Iran, etc...etc... in the name of what they 'might' do.

If you listen to how the majority of the Science community has responded...we have more to fear from side-effects of the small pox vaccine than from a small pox biological attack.

 
 
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Originally posted by seebs
If I can explain why people fall from high places to low places, without invoking God's name, does that mean God isn't "needed"? Not really; it doesn't address anything. Keep in mind, some people objected to gravitation on just those grounds.

We shouldn't reject an explanation of *how* a thing happened because it contradicts a belief about *why* it happened.

and the same logic was used to refute the earth was round, and that our little rock isn't the center of the universe.  The same paranoia forbid cutting into the human body for it was sacred.  Tsk, Tsk,,,, why does religion still fear science today?
 
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Originally posted by Mechanical Bliss
Put succinctly, the theory of evolution does not provide an explanation for the origin of life, nor does it seek to do so. The theory of evolution provides an explanation for the origin of species from common ancestors.


Sir : I have no idea what you are talking about??:confused:

What is this evolution that you speak of?

Is that the name of the god that I heard someone else mention?

Why does everyone seem so upset?

Did I make everyone angry by asking how I became?

I guess then...

You will really become furious with me when I ask about the Universe??

Does anyone have any answers?
 
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