America's Fast Approching Second Civil War

[MehGuy]

If the God of the bible is real.. I guess I could see it maybe happening. Lol.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

I thought Mitt Romney might have been the White Horse guy.

Anybody who believes in the Scriptures can and often is labeled a fear monger,and you might as well throw in a hater as well.Yes you are quite right about your Book of Mormon comment,but the problem is America is becoming more wicked,and is losing the protection that God has promised to the righteous.

 

[Arthra]

Well... the opening post sounds like an excerpt from something else... Vision of George Washington? Isn't he pictured on the Capitol dome ascending to heaven?

"The Apotheosis of Washington depicts George Washington sitting amongst the heavens in an exalted manner, or in literal terms, ascending and becoming a god..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington

and

http://danspira.com/2006/01/06/george-washingtons-ascension-to-heaven/

Good thing I already had the flu...!

 

[awitch]

Anybody who believes in the Scriptures can and often is labeled a fear monger,and you might as well throw in a hater as well.Yes you are quite right about your Book of Mormon comment,but the problem is America is becoming more wicked,and is losing the protection that God has promised to the righteous.

But America has lots and lots of guns, so we don't really need god's protection.

 

[fatboys]

But America has lots and lots of guns, so we don't really need god's protection.

Not enough big ones

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Not enough big ones

George Washington ~

Here is more info. on G.W. Vision...The vision received by George Washington in the winter of 1777 is one of the most fascinating of all American prophecies. Washington told his vision to Anthony Sherman, who recounted it to Wesley Bradshaw, publisher of the National Stripes:

"The last time I ever saw Anthony Sherman was on the 4th of July, 1859, in Independence Square. He was then 99 years old, and becoming very feeble. But though so old, his dimming eyes rekindled as he gazed upon Independence Hall, which he had come to visit once more.

"Let's go into the hall", he said. "I want to tell you of an incident in Washington's life --- one which no one alive knows of except myself; and if you live, you will before long see it verified. Mark the prediction; you will see it verified.

"From the beginning of the revolution we experienced all phases of fortune, now good and now ill, one time victorious and another conquered. The darkest period we had, I think, was when George Washington, after several reverses, retreated to Valley Forge, where he resolved to pass the winter of 1777.

"Ah, I have often seen tears coursing down our dear commander's care-worn cheeks, as he would be conversing with a confidential officer about the condition of his poor soldiers. You have doubtless heard the story of Washington going to the thicket to pray. Well, it was not only true, but he used to pray in secret for aid and comfort. And God brought us safely through the darkest days of tribulation.

"One day, I remember it well, the chilly winds whispered through the leafless trees, though the sky was cloudless and the sun shone brightly. He noticed that his face was a shade paler than usual, and there seemed to be something on his mind of more than ordinary importance. After a preliminary conversation of about half an hour, Washington, gazing upon his companion with that strange look of dignity which he alone could command, said to the latter:

"I do not know whether it is owing to the anxiety of my mind, or what, but this afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something in the apartment seemed to disturb me. Looking up I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful being. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of the visit. A second, a third, and even a fourth time did I repeat the question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of the eyes.

"By this time I felt strange sensations spreading over me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to speak but my tongue had become useless, as if paralyzed. A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly, at my unknown visitor.

"Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed to fill with sensations, and grew luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarefy, the mysterious visitor also becoming more airy, and yet more distinct to my eyes than before. I began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany death. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move. All alike were impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.

"Presently I heard a voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended an arm eastward.

"Now I beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay, spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world --- Europe, Asia, Africa, and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific. 'Son of the Republic,' said the mysterious voice as before, 'Look and learn.'

"At that moment I beheld a dark shadowy being like an angel, standing or rather floating in mid-air between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left he cast some over Europe. Immediately a cloud arose from these countries and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it seemed stationary, and then it moved slowly westward until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

"A second time the angel dipped from the ocean and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back into the ocean in whose heaving billows it sank as before.

"A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them. Again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh; look and learn.'

"And this time the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward. From Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly and heavily over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking, I saw a bright angel on whose brow rested a crown of light on which was traced the word 'Union.' He was bearing the American flag. He placed the flag between the divided nation and said, 'Remember, ye are brethren.'

"Instantly, the inhabitants, casting down their weapons, became friends once more and united around the National Standard.

"Again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa.

"Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And through this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of the cloud. And I dimly saw the vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities which I had seen springing up.

"As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When this voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth and blew a long and fearful blast.

"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word ‘Union’ and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome but who immediately, taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

"Again, amidst the fearful noise of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious.

"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with a loud voice, 'While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word, 'Union,' he placed it upon the standard while the people kneeling down said, 'Amen.'

"The scene instantly began to fade and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappeared, and I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, 'Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted. Three great perils will come upon the republic. The most fearful for her is the third. But the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the republic learn to live for God, his land and Union.' With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown me the birth, the progress, and destiny of the United States." (19)

The first peril foreseen by Washington was that of the War of Independence, the second danger was the Civil War, and the third will be a second revolution and civil war, complicated by the invasion of America by armies from Asia, Africa, and even Europe.
from www.bibliotecapleyades.net

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Well... the opening post sounds like an excerpt from something else... Vision of George Washington? Isn't he pictured on the Capitol dome ascending to heaven?

"The Apotheosis of Washington depicts George Washington sitting amongst the heavens in an exalted manner, or in literal terms, ascending and becoming a god..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington

and

http://danspira.com/2006/01/06/george-washingtons-ascension-to-heaven/

Good thing I already had the flu...!

Here is a little more on George Washington, thank You for your post.A British sniper,an officer,could have shot George Washington,but felt he should not fire.http://www.historynet.com/the-marksman-who-refused-to-shoot-george-washington.htm Another time, his life was spared in the French and Indian Wars, in an amazing way.

There are other similar events, these are only two of them.His life was spared many times in battle,to go on to take His place as our first U.S. President,I have spent some time studying our "Founding Fathers",and these true stories,are just the tip of the iceberg.The French and Indian Wars experience of Washington was in American School Children's textbooks,until the 1930's,when it was removed.Too bad!

 

[awitch]

Tim Barton?! As in, the son of David Barton, the infamous history-revisionist and Christian liar?

Hey, if you believe that stuff, I have a bridge you might like to buy. For you, it's half off.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Tim Barton?! As in, the son of David Barton, the infamous history-revisionist and Christian liar?

Hey, if you believe that stuff, I have a bridge you might like to buy. For you, it's half off.

Just remember my first post on this tread, when you see the beginning of of the second American civil war that is outlined, and it will be soon, you will know that "Mormon Church Leaders" were indeed led by the Lord.I know the TRUTH of that which I speak of.A voice of warning to any who seek the truth.And what is the Lord's definition of truth...This from modern revelation recorded in a book called the Doctrine and Covenants, section 93, verse 24."And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come". How valuable that knowledge truly is.

 

[Zoness]

Meh, Washington wasn't really that great of a guy. I'm not sure why we spend so much time deifying him. Probably to build up our American mythos.

David Barton is a well-known twister of words for his agenda. I'm guessing his son is no different.

I do not find the D&C to be authoritative scripture for many reasons; I doubt the character and acts of Joseph Smith principally.

Your prophecy is interesting in the sense that it really does paint Mormonism as a distinctly American religion, and not really a worldwide ancient religion.

 

[smaneck]

The tale of "Washington's Vision" was penned by Charles Wesley Alexander (1836-1927), a Philadelphia journalist who published The Soldier's Casket, a periodical for Union veterans of the Civil War. Writing under the pseudonym "Wesley Bradshaw," Alexander authored several fictional "vision" or "dream" pieces featuring historic American figures which were published as broadsheets and in various newspapers during the Civil War and were later offered for sale through advertisements in the pages of The Soldier's Casket, with the artificial separation between the real Charles Alexander and the pseudonymous "Wesley Bradshaw" allowing the former to unashamedly laud the latter's works."http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vision.asp

 

[ViaCrucis]

Two points:

1) What evidence is there that George Washington actually had this so-called "vision" in the first place? Color me, oh, just a wee bit skeptical.

2) Let's pretend for a moment that Washington did have such a "vision". What relevance is it to me? George Washington isn't a prophet, seer, or visionary in [orthodox] Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Armoured]

Some of your fellow countrymen really seem keen on this civil war idea. Cliven Bundy's son has literally just started an armed insurrection.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

The tale of "Washington's Vision" was penned by Charles Wesley Alexander (1836-1927), a Philadelphia journalist who published The Soldier's Casket, a periodical for Union veterans of the Civil War. Writing under the pseudonym "Wesley Bradshaw," Alexander authored several fictional "vision" or "dream" pieces featuring historic American figures which were published as broadsheets and in various newspapers during the Civil War and were later offered for sale through advertisements in the pages of The Soldier's Casket, with the artificial separation between the real Charles Alexander and the pseudonymous "Wesley Bradshaw" allowing the former to unashamedly laud the latter's works."http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vision.asp

Yes, I have heard that before.I don't think Snopes is right.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Some of your fellow countrymen really seem keen on this civil war idea. Cliven Bundy's son has literally just started an armed insurrection.

Hot news that I am keeping an eye on, thank you for post.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Two points:

1) What evidence is there that George Washington actually had this so-called "vision" in the first place? Color me, oh, just a wee bit skeptical.

2) Let's pretend for a moment that Washington did have such a "vision". What relevance is it to me? George Washington isn't a prophet, seer, or visionary in [orthodox] Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

I would say that the warning he received, was an important message fer us all.

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

Meh, Washington wasn't really that great of a guy. I'm not sure why we spend so much time deifying him. Probably to build up our American mythos.

David Barton is a well-known twister of words for his agenda. I'm guessing his son is no different.

I do not find the D&C to be authoritative scripture for many reasons; I doubt the character and acts of Joseph Smith principally.

Your prophecy is interesting in the sense that it really does paint Mormonism as a distinctly American religion, and not really a worldwide ancient religion.

Well I have an interesting answer for you from the D&C, speaking about prophesy.I would say that the Lord has a perfect track record of foretelling future American civil wars.
Section 87
Revelation and prophecy on war, given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at or near Kirtland, Ohio, December 25, 1832. At this time disputes in the United States over slavery and South Carolina’s nullification of federal tariffs were prevalent. Joseph Smith’s history states that “appearances of troubles among the nations” were becoming “more visible” to the Prophet “than they had previously been since the Church began her journey out of the wilderness.”
1–4, War is foretold between the Northern States and the Southern States; 5–8, Great calamities will fall upon all the inhabitants of the earth.

1 Verily, thus saith the Lord concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;

2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.

3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.

4 And it shall come to pass, after many days, slaves shall rise up against their masters, who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war.

5 And it shall come to pass also that the remnants who are left of the land will marshal themselves, and shall become exceedingly angry, and shall vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation.

6 And thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn; and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;

7 That the cry of the saints, and of the blood of the saints, shall cease to come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, from the earth, to be avenged of their enemies.

8 Wherefore, stand ye in holy places, and be not moved, until the day of the Lord come; for behold, it cometh quickly, saith the Lord. Amen.
This amazing revelation was given in 1832. It was printed up and used in missionary tracts passed out in England in the 1840's.It was fulfilled to the letter.Her is one more quote for you...A month following the artillery rounds fired at Fort Sumter, South Carolina, signaling the start to the Civil War, the Philadelphia Sunday Mercury remarked, “We have in our possession a pamphlet, published at Liverpool, in 1851, containing a selection from the ‘revelations, translations and narrations’ of Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism.” Citing what is now Doctrine and Covenants 87, the paper continued, “The following prophecy is here said to have been made by Smith, on the 25th of December, 1832. In view of our present troubles, this prediction seems to be in progress of fulfilment, whether Joe Smith was a humbug or not.” Though early in the war’s advancement, the paper nevertheless speculated about the prophecy, concluding, “The war began in South Carolina. Insurrections of slaves are already dreaded. Famine will certainly afflict some Southern communities. The interference of Great Britain, on account of the want of cotton, is not improbable, if the war is protracted. In the meantime, a general war in Europe appears to be imminent. Have we not had a prophet among us?
Don't go looking for the truth about who Joseph Smith was from people who have a vested interest in vilifying the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, do as an ancient wrote about finding out the truth of the Book of Mormon.
The Book of Moroni
Chapter 10
A testimony of the Book of Mormon comes by the power of the Holy Ghost—The gifts of the Spirit are dispensed to the faithful—Spiritual gifts always accompany faith—Moroni’s words speak from the dust—Come unto Christ, be perfected in Him, and sanctify your souls. About A.D. 421.

1 Now I, Moroni, write somewhat as seemeth me good; and I write unto my brethren, the Lamanites; and I would that they should know that more than four hundred and twenty years have passed away since the sign was given of the coming of Christ.

2 And I seal up these records, after I have spoken a few words by way of exhortation unto you.

3 Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

Pray, and find out for yourself.I did, God bless you.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I would say that the warning he received, was an important message fer us all.

You've yet to demonstrate that he received any message at all.

So you believe every "message" "received" by anyone whatsoever is to be taken seriously?

Tell me, exactly, how seriously you're taking the messages relayed by Edgar Cayce.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

You've yet to demonstrate that he received any message at all.

So you believe every "message" "received" by anyone whatsoever is to be taken seriously?

Tell me, exactly, how seriously you're taking the messages relayed by Edgar Cayce.

-CryptoLutheran

Are you really talking to me, after the post I have just given?Anyone who can foresee the civil war thirty years before it started, and and say in which state it would begin, was just guessing?

 

[A VOICE OF WARNING]

I would say that the warning he received, was an important message fer us all.

That message is about the Book of Mormon, which is a second witness along with the Bible, of the Lord Jesus Christ.That is the most important message anybody, anywhere could receive!