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I’m guessing that black market and supply chain have been conflated for some reason.
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I’m guessing that black market and supply chain have been conflated for some reason.What? That makes no sense...
The supply chain for alcohol and tobacco is under the control of the government. They determine who makes alcohol. It's very strictly licensed. They control, by various taxes, how strong it is. They control who can sell it. They control where it is sold. When it is sold. Who can drink it. Good grief, in some cases how much of it you can actually drink. That's what strictly controlled means, for heaven's sake. The supply chain is completely under the control of the government.
So did somebody say that we should remove or collapse the supply chain or take control of it? Gosh, I think it was the latter. Let me check...
Yeah, he said 'control the manufacture and distribution yourself.' Just as you do with booze.
Can you please try to read what I am saying and address that rather than making random non sequiturs?
How would decimalizing their product cut their business in half? Why would there need to be a black market for a legal substance? Have marijuana growers suffered from it being legalized? Do you think they didn't lobby for legalization? How much of a back market is there now in states where marijuana was legalized?Against for sure. It cuts business in half. And black market dealers still run the risk of being jailed. Maybe more of a risk because the state doesn't want profits impeded by the black market. Desk trauma is explaining it well.
People will always want to take drugs. From a couple of glasses of wine to a fifth of Jack, from the occasional spliff to mainlining heroin. Now the booze we can all get from the local supermarket or even gas station. Nobody I know (ahem) gets it from moonshiners. No-one is running molasses to Canada or buying a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper line for the still out the back of Copperhead Road.
I hope you're not suggesting that anyone on this forum grows their own cannabis and distills their own likker...Bootlegging is the gateway to growing cannabis, don't ya know.
Worst still, that can lead to dancing!Bootlegging is the gateway to growing cannabis, don't ya know.
Decriminalization and Legalization are separate things.I wrote that the desire for narcotics to be legalized (euphemistically called decriminalized)
Until the recent moves to change how cannabis is treated federally I thought the current administration may have actually been worse on drug policy given the presidents views.It would be nice if folks would just openly admit that's what they want, and that they expect to have a better chance of it happening though the democrat party being in control of the presidency, senate and congress.
Well, if the track leads to a cliff, getting derailed is not a bad option.Just because they think we're on the wrong track doesn't mean they want Republicans to derail it.
Yeah, it's all my fault none of the replies addressed the content of my post.You seem to be of the mindset that I'm into all kinds of schemes and ploys et al, and of course that's going to shape how you interpret my posts. Just about every one of your replies to me in this thread is an accusation that I'm doing this that and the other. Pure nonsense. We're done here.
More like, sinking in quicksand and refusing the help of the person trying to help by tossing you a stick of lit dynamite and opting for the help from the guy who is throwing you a rope that probably can't support your weight.Yes, kind of like sinking in quicksand and refusing to grab a rope thrown by someone you don't like.
The only dynamite was the continual whining and made-up agitation from the left in an otherwise great four years of the Trump administration. It's evident Dems realize they chose poorly from all the lame anti-Trump excuses they have for voting for Biden. They can't just say outright we'd like to have Trump and good times back or it would be like a confession of ignorance. It's sad that republicans will likely think they have to put up a lesser-qualified candidate to try to win over those fragile egos, which I doubt will work... Dems are on a Titanic cruise.More like, sinking in quicksand and refusing the help of the person trying to help by tossing you a stick of lit dynamite and opting for the help from the guy who is throwing you a rope that probably can't support your weight.
You sure about that? The Harrison Narcotics Tax Act only banned OTC sales and marketing of opiates, not prescription use (that wasn't added until 10 years later), and even though it's now classified as a Schedule I substance, that doesn't mean that it's wholly prohibited to manufacture it. It's just subject to strict quotas and controls, same as all Schedule I substances. I can almost guarantee that Bayer still makes small quantities of heroin.Yeah, I changed that to not instead of never because that crossed my mind too. When is the last time Bayer et al manufactured heroin or opium in general in the form of laudanum? Over a hundred years ago.
You answered your first question with your last sentence. If it's legalized, most people will buy it at the shop next to the grocery store instead of at the dealers house.How would decimalizing their product cut their business in half? Why would there need to be a black market for a legal substance? Have marijuana growers suffered from it being legalized? Do you think they didn't lobby for legalization? How much of a back market is there now in states where marijuana was legalized?
Before marijuana was legalized in my state, I didn't have any idea of how to go about buying it. Now I know I just have to go into the shop that's literally next door to where I shop for groceries.
The discussion was in regard to the manufacturing and trafficking of hard narcotics. Also I've used CBD. Wanna give it another go?You answered your first question with your last sentence. If it's legalized, most people will buy it at the shop next to the grocery store instead of at the dealers house.
There's a black market for a variety of legal stuff. Cars, ADHD meds, phones, opiates, humans etc.
Most growers I know don't grow for business purposes. Cannabis is medicinal friend. Your ignorance of its benefits and use illustrates why our government’s suppression of this beneficial gift was so misguided and unfair. Many Americans were prevented from discovering how useful the plant actually is. Chinese folks have enjoyed its benefits for thousands of years. As of today our inept government still has the plant on the Schedule I drug list with heroin, preventing its study and legal use from being employed. But I suppose some growers would profit from legalization by selling their wares to dispensaries. And users as well.
There's always going to be a black market for cannabis. I can't really speak on this much because I haven't been involved with the cannabis black market for many years.
No, thank you. Your question I answered invoked marijuana several times, not hard narcotics. So have a good day friend.The discussion was in regard to the manufacturing and trafficking of hard narcotics. Also I've used CBD. Wanna give it another go?
If you look at post #243 you'll see where I was using the legalization of marijuana as a comparison in my conversation with The same as prohibition and alcohol has been used as comparison in this thread in my long conversation with Desk Trauma.No, thank you. Your question I answered invoked marijuana several times, not hard narcotics. So have a good day friend.
Yet you didn't descend into addiction and life on the street there after. It's those other people who cannot be trusted with such gate way drugs.Also I've used CBD.
I hope you're not suggesting that anyone on this forum grows their own cannabis and distills their own likker...
It depends on how stoned someone wants to get and how prone they are to addition. Also I only tried CBD for anxiety caused by palpations due to a benign cardio-electrical issue, which was solved with a beta blocker.Yet you didn't descend into addiction and life on the street there after. It's those other people who cannot be trusted with such gate way drugs.
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