Very true. The Founding Fathers were deeply religious men who help religion, faith, and the sacred as sacred.
Back in 1776, all the flowery oratory about freedom did nothing for black slaves, women, indentured servants or Native Americans. If we forget that fact, we are remembering only fairy tales instead of real history. The so-called home of the free and the brave has been corrupt and infected with racism since its inception. As an American Indian, I know that the birth of this nation is nothing to celebrate or be proud of. The birth of the so-called "great nation" brought about the death and destruction of my race. The American Indian is still feeling the effects of the birth of this "great nation" today. I don't think that's something to be proud of or celebrate. Religious or not, the "founding fathers" were nothing more than greedy, racist bigots. And I know I'm not the only NDN who thinks or feels that way.
the examples of strawman argumentation keep getting better and better on this forum. yours is among the very best of the misleading, intentional misrepresentations of history I've seen here.
damning the founding fathers in 1776 for not sharing your personal political agenda in 2011 is clever, but fools no one.
There is another way of looking at all this. Call me a cynic- but America was built on the notion of getting rid of the sacred for the freedom to do as one pleases. I really don't see anything these days except the logical conclusion of the initial action. Don't you enjoy the iconoclasm which has become your birthright? It was a doomed experiment before it ever began, really. We're in the final death knells.
Obama does not deserve respect for booting the Deep Water Horizon incident, for getting involved in Libya too late to do enough good for it to be worth our while, for giving us that disgrace commonly known as the health care bill, for ignoring the rights of the unborn, and for being just as partisan as (if not more than) his detractors. Most of what he did right has actually been a continuation of Bush's policies
Just you watch, Obama's base is equally spineless and will vote him another term.I can see where you might argue the other points, but how can he possibly be more partisan against the republicans than anyone else while also following all their policies? Obama has not been partisan at all, in fact he's been so spineless it cost him a good number of his base.
The most vocal voters, and this is a group gaining more and more publicity, are what is destroying this country. THEY are the ones that encourage the politics by acting like they do - seperating and demeaning people on political beliefs alone. Democrats and Republicans, both.
AMEN! We need to get rid of freedom of speech, starting with Chris Matthews.
Honestly, you need to really listen to yourself.
Health care and the additional bailouts. He pretty much locked the Republicans out of negotiation with "I won." He also has not taken responsibility for his screwups, somehow blaming the Republicans when until this last November, they couldn't stop a single bill on a strict party-line vote. I agree he has also been spineless, but you don't need to have a spine in order to be partisan.I can see where you might argue the other points, but how can he possibly be more partisan against the republicans than anyone else while also following all their policies? Obama has not been partisan at all, in fact he's been so spineless it cost him a good number of his base.
This has never been shown to be true."A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a loss of fiscal responsibility
Health care and the additional bailouts. He pretty much locked the Republicans out of negotiation with "I won." He also has not taken responsibility for his screwups, somehow blaming the Republicans when until this last November, they couldn't stop a single bill on a strict party-line vote. I agree he has also been spineless, but you don't need to have a spine in order to be partisan.
The fact is, President doesn't have a magic button that controls the economy, the budget, or anything else. So to blame him for absolutely EVERYTHING is absolutely ridiculous.
Every day I live in this country is another day I believe human beings aren't capable of freedom, let alone deserving.