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I at times wonder if the time lag could be accelerated somehow ...I think it's starting to change slightly. I know the monasteries here by Elder Ephraim are very much pro Western pre schism saints, and the Greek Cathedral in Bethlehem, PA has a side chapel with more Slavic saints than Greek ones.
but you are totally right that there is a ways to go.
Many thanks for the resource you gave on the issue, as it has been very engaging and thought-provoking in the scope of work they are trying to do.You all might find this interesting. I'd like to be able to support this effort monetarily. Maybe someday soon!
THE ORTHODOX MONASTERY OF ALL CELTIC SAINTS
Mary
That's cool to know - I would love to visit as well and I do hope that more awareness comes on the issue. With initiatives such as the one you brought up in existence, it's quite amazing to consider how so many in the EO world (from what I've seen) seem to assume that anything Western in view must somehow be against the early Church.I don't remember if I just came across it on google or fb, but I'm very interested in the history of the Church in Britain, so I was excited to see it. I'd love to visit one day.
Mary
That's wonderful. Did you have it at your parish where it seemed there were Orthodox who were not really concerned with others in that part of the world?Well, I'm mostly Anglo-Saxon, and a bit of an Anglophile so I was excited when I first became aware that many of the Saints from that area of the world are actually Orthodox.
Mary
I am partial to St. Columba and Iona. If one reads prayers of saints such as Patrick or Columba, there is a lot of similarity to Eastern Orthodox spirituality
The issue is that for most EO, Orthodoxy is Eastern. And western converts mostly seems satisfied with that (because frankly many don't seem interested, having wrote off a lot of western Christian history anyways), and cradle Orthodox for the most part do not care.
Most of the interest in Celtic Christianity I have encountered seems to come from Anglicans and Episcopalians and, to a lesser extent, Presbyterians.
I wonder if perhaps things will change in regards to emphasizing the Orthodox side of things more so than the emphasis on EASTERN if things were to happen in a much more aggressive manner since things are aggressively pushed toward the Eastern side being dominant - even though, as you noted, St. Patrick and St. Irenaeus are our saints.oh I know that is how it used to be, but it seems to be changing. we have 1000 years of Western saints that, as folks in the West that are converting, are generating great interest. my priest at Ft Campbell converted to Orthodoxy because of what he read in Celtic Christianity and even paganism, seeing how close the Celts were to the Truth. Fr John Parker, the head of evangelism for the OCA, tells folks at talks to emphasize being Orthodox and NOT being Eastern as much.
after all, St Patrick, St Benedict, St Irenaeus, etc are our saints.
You may wish to investigate the following concerning what you noted...I am partial to St. Columba and Iona. If one reads prayers of saints such as Patrick or Columba, there is a lot of similarity to Eastern Orthodox spirituality
The issue is that for most EO, Orthodoxy is Eastern. And western converts mostly seems satisfied with that (because frankly many don't seem interested, having wrote off a lot of western Christian history anyways), and cradle Orthodox for the most part do not care.
I wonder if perhaps things will change in regards to emphasizing the Orthodox side of things more so than the emphasis on EASTERN if things were to happen in a much more aggressive manner since things are aggressively pushed toward the Eastern side being dominant - even though, as you noted, St. Patrick and St. Irenaeus are our saints.
The British Christians do not need to become Eastern Orthodox to recognize their own heritage.
Agreed....I think we would say that they need to see that their heritage IS Orthodox, just uniquely and wonderfully British and Celtic.
Orthodox parishes dedicated to St. Patrick - patron saint of Ireland who is worshipped both in the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, may open in Russia.
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